Was anyone else blown away by Tobiramas max power?

[bigfatloser]

It was a slap in the face... Not as bad as Hiruzen being ignored >:l.

Atleast he got panel time!

True, I assume hiruzen is off smoking his pipe and hanging out with his monkey friend off panel.

 

[Edward]

I'm sure tobirama could do a lot better.. really thought this war was a time for him to show us his power ._.

 

[KingHashirama]

Dude invents a techinque and can't even free himself from it with the hand-seals like madara did, or with brute force like hashi. He ends up saying 'hurr can't stop ME' and then immediately gets stopped. then to top it off his brother complements oro for it. that's humiliation.

Reread again. Tobirama was only binded because Orochimaru used Hashirama's dna to strengthen the bind. =]. People like Kabuto or part 1 Orochimaru can't bind Tobirama.

Plus didn't Minato only do 1? ;x

And Hiruzen did none.

 

[Erin]

Minato only needed one.

No, Minato only needed one. Nothing suggested that one was his limit.

Minato didn't need more than one you know? Tobirama made them with the same intention as Hashirama, while Minato made it with an other intention.

He never said it was his max in the contrary of Hashirama or Tobirama. One was all what he needed to finish Obito since he already had the marking. Minato is a minimalist. Why use more clones when one is enough?

Maybe, I feel like it was implied though, since they said it was their limit, then minato dramatically made a seal.

Minato did only need one clone, but there isn't any proof that he could use two.

I'm on the fence really... simply because its not a matter of power but of prowess.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

It's because they are focusing most of their chakra in keeping that barrier up. You know that insanely powerful barrier....if they didn't have the barrier up I'm sure he wouldn't be having trouble making more than a few shadow clones.

Tobirama has already proven to be powerful...the dude killed Izuna, a mangekyo user and has a powerful s/t tech, though it's weaker than Minato's, or Obito's hax S/T.

Read the *********** translation. It's usually better than the one on mangapanda, which is exactly the version they put on Narutobase. Don't get me wrong, it's still a readable translation and you can get the just of the chapter, but errors are common and it can sometimes make things confusing.

 

[bigfatloser]

Maybe, I feel like it was implied though, since they said it was their limit, then minato dramatically made a seal.

Minato did only need one clone, but there isn't any proof that he could use two.

I'm on the fence really...

It wasn't implied. Minato thought "I'll make one clone and end this."

He had absolutely no reason to make multiple clones. Is there 100% proof he could make two? No. Is there any substantial evidence that he could not make two clones? No.

IMO he's got the kyuubi chakra and could probably make multiple clones but it's not as set in stone as with tobi

 

[Kαmi]

Better than not getting acknowledged at all. The man who also had the title "God of Shinobi", didn't bother making clones (maybe he was on the far side of barrier?) when we know for a fact that Hiruzen can make clones. Kishi is trollin Hiruzen so hard right now..

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

Max power? Where's that Scary Yamato emote.. No, it's obviously not his "max power". Shadow Clones are apparently not very easy to make. The only reason Naruto can make so many is because he has full mastery of the jutsu, plus he has a shitload of chakra, being an Uzumaki. This is usually why you see Shadow Clone Jutsu being used by Naruto, because it's not nearly as impressive if other characters do it.

 

[HiddenSound]

Seriously, why the dislike for Tobirama? It's a tad... Odd.

 

[bigfatloser]

Reread again. Tobirama was only binded because Orochimaru used Hashirama's dna to strengthen the bind. =]. People like Kabuto or part 1 Orochimaru can't bind Tobirama.

Plus didn't Minato only do 1? ;x

And Hiruzen did none.

Kabuto has Hashi DNA

and did you miss the part where Orochimaru bound Tobirama in part 1? Because that literally happened.

 

[Bogard]

Maybe, I feel like it was implied though, since they said it was their limit, then minato dramatically made a seal.

Minato did only need one clone, but there isn't any proof that he could use two.

I'm on the fence really... simply because its not a matter of power but of prowess.

Attacking Obito was the main plan. Attacking Madara was only the back-up plan(in case they fail and Madara gets revived). That's why Hashirama and Tobirama needed max clone in order to attack Madara directly the moment he revives himself(with the max power possible while maintaining the barrier). Minato didn't need to attack Madara though since he knew he could reach Obito directly because he already had the marking. That's why using the max capacity of clone to attack Madara wasn't needed, since he could have reached Obito(the main plan) without too much efforts and stop him(especially in the state he was)

 

[david098]

miss translation. max while holding up the barrier. get trolled noob.

 

[grizzlyshree]

Tobirama isnt weak. he is next to hashiramai n overall prowess. he may be featless but he is not weak. the power levels go like this:
Hashirama
Tobirama
Minato/youngHiruzen(prime Hiruzen exists with Oro)
Old hiruzen
Tsunade

 

[bigfatloser]

Seriously, why the dislike for Tobirama? It's a tad... Odd.

7777 posts~

OT: I actually just find it funny that he's a senju kage, but his only notable feat was off-panel and otherwise he's demonstrated almost nothing that makes him seem stronger then your average high level jounin. He also seems to be constantly being beaten or belittled by plot.

EDIT: Obviously maintaining the barrier and inventing techs is impressive but combat-wise he's been fairly bland.

 

[Bijuu13]

All of your threads are Tobirama hate

 

[Ultimatum]

Well atleast he got a feat under his belt, that's the best that any Tobirama fan can ask for.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kabuto has Hashi DNA

and did you miss the part where Orochimaru bound Tobirama in part 1? Because that literally happened.

@ Bold go reread.

30% Tobirama = near full power tobirama? ok didn't know

 

[grizzlyshree]

Attacking Obito was the main plan. Attacking Madara was only the back-up plan(in case they fail and Madara gets revived). That's why Hashirama and Tobirama needed max clone in order to attack Madara directly the moment he revives himself(with the max power possible while maintaining the barrier). Minato didn't need to attack Madara though since he knew he could reach Obito directly because he already had the marking. That's why using the max capacity of clone to attack Madara wasn't needed, since he could have reached Obito(the main plan) without too much efforts and stop him(especially in the state he was)

why Tobirama is second overall? he made two clones while making the barriier while making two clones makes him kage level atleast hokage level. i wonder where USSJtrunks is.

 

[bigfatloser]

@ Bold go reread.

30% Tobirama = near full power tobirama? ok didn't know

uh you said part 1 oro couldn't bind tobirama WHEN THAT LITERALLY HAPPENED IN THE MANGA.

 

[GenKiDama]

Yeah lol an Edo hokage could only make 2 Kage bunshin's :|.....kishi must have a good explanation for this shit

Plot no jutsu