War Arc Kakashi vs Itachi

[Booker]

Sasuke v Itachi version of Itachi.

No Susano’o.

Each has full intel on the other.

Fight takes place at the Uchiha Hideout.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

kakashi wins. Kamui might not even be needed

 

[EZQ]

Kamui gg

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakashi wins mid diff.

 

[Booker]

Sasuke v Itachi version of Itachi.

No Susano’o.

Each has full intel on the other.

Fight takes place at the Uchiha Hideout.

kakashi wins. Kamui might not even be needed

Kakashi wins mid diff.

Ok. Adding to it:

Round 2: Susano’o is allowed

Round 3: Edo Itachi, but no Susano’o.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Itachi loses every scenario due to Kamui GG

 

[New Dawn]

Kamui HAX! Can Kakashi Kamui Maddy's PS head off?

 

[Amenotejikara]

Kakashi w/ kamui.

sc2: can go either way, leaning towards itachi since he could likely outlast kakashi

 

[EZQ]

Either it's kamui GG or Itachi wins. Except for scenario 1 where if Kakashi can use Kamui on everything except Itachi he could still outlast him

 

[KidGamer65]

It's debatable in Itachi's favor in Round 2. Itachi wins easily in Round 3.

 

[Nattana]

Lol at people who think someone with full intel and of Itachi's speed will get sniped by Kamui. This jutsu has literally 0 feats of catching something that isn't immobile or moving straight into the user.

Itachi wins all scenarios.

 

[Shadow Style]

Itachi wins round 2 and 3 for sure.
Round 1 is debatable, but Itachi can still take it.

 

[super yang]

I don't see the scenarios listed but,
Itachi wins due to being categorically superior.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol at people who think someone with full intel and of Itachi's speed will get sniped by Kamui. This jutsu has literally 0 feats of catching something that isn't immobile or moving straight into the user.

Itachi wins all scenarios.

he caught the asura missile that was moving and moving away from kakashi -_-
or the raikiri kunai that was moving and away from kakashi
so much for literally no feats.

 

[Scryed]

Kakashi wins Round 1

Ill give it to Itachi in round 2 and 3 though

 

[Beans2]

I don’t understand how Kakashi wins any scenarios
Itachi is faster, better skills in every area, and has Amaterasu genjutsu etc in his arsenal
Kamui hax can be countered with clones. Itachi has this in the bag imo and stomps with susanoo

 

[Heartpeace]

I am interested in the argument as to why Kamui would kill Itachi so easily. As far as I know, Kamui has only been used on linear targets, and when it was attempted on a dynamic moving target, Deidara, it missed. If Kamui were that powerful, why didn't Kakashi use it to instantly kill Madara in the war? I understand why Kamui was not used against Kakuzu (although Kakashi could have arguably used Kamui on Kakuzu's entire body), but if Kamui is so strong, why was it not used against Hidan?

Therefore, if Itachi were to lose, it would not be because of Kamui unless someone can demonstrate its speed being enough to capture one of the notable speedsters of the manga, and also explain why Kakashi rarely attempted it against his other opposition in the manga. At the very least, it would be Kakashi laying a trap for Itachi which would allow him to land Kamui.

Regardless of the intricacies of Kamui, with full knowledge, Itachi should be able to kill Kakashi without much effort without Susano'o. Susano'o is Itachi's absolute last resort, and he didn't become a highly regarded Kage-level shinobi through its use, so he is able to stand on his own merits as an extremely powerful ninja without it, even capable of bringing part 1 Kakashi down with a single technique and walking away, and even escaping a Sannin without being killed.

In terms of speed and skill, Itachi is tiers above Kakashi because he was a genius in every aspect. Itachi might be a tad lacking in the intelligence and stamina department given it is War Arc Kakashi, but he will be able to make up for it with full knowledge. Itachi will know that Kakashi can outlast him and can fight accordingly. Kakashi will conclude that a battle of attrition is best, but Itachi's high level techniques and superior genjutsu and speed would realistically overwhelm Kakashi making outlasting Itachi unreasonable.

 

[New Dawn]

I am interested in the argument as to why Kamui would kill Itachi so easily. As far as I know, Kamui has only been used on linear targets, and when it was attempted on a dynamic moving target, Deidara, it missed. If Kamui were that powerful, why didn't Kakashi use it to instantly kill Madara in the war? I understand why Kamui was not used against Kakuzu (although Kakashi could have arguably used Kamui on Kakuzu's entire body), but if Kamui is so strong, why was it not used against Hidan?

Therefore, if Itachi were to lose, it would not be because of Kamui unless someone can demonstrate its speed being enough to capture one of the notable speedsters of the manga, and also explain why Kakashi rarely attempted it against his other opposition in the manga. At the very least, it would be Kakashi laying a trap for Itachi which would allow him to land Kamui.

Regardless of the intricacies of Kamui, with full knowledge, Itachi should be able to kill Kakashi without much effort without Susano'o. Susano'o is Itachi's absolute last resort, and he didn't become a highly regarded Kage-level shinobi through its use, so he is able to stand on his own merits as an extremely powerful ninja without it, even capable of bringing part 1 Kakashi down with a single technique and walking away, and even escaping a Sannin without being killed.

In terms of speed and skill, Itachi is tiers above Kakashi because he was a genius in every aspect. Itachi might be a tad lacking in the intelligence and stamina department given it is War Arc Kakashi, but he will be able to make up for it with full knowledge. Itachi will know that Kakashi can outlast him and can fight accordingly. Kakashi will conclude that a battle of attrition is best, but Itachi's high level techniques and superior genjutsu and speed would realistically overwhelm Kakashi making outlasting Itachi unreasonable.

Exactly. Kakashi couldn't kamui Hidan because of the pressure and onslaught that was put on him + Hidan is very mobile so he wouldnt be able to snipe Hidan. People overrate Kamui too much. Itachi also had to snipe with amaterasu against mobile Sasuke.

 

[New Dawn]

I don’t understand how Kakashi wins any scenarios
Itachi is faster, better skills in every area, and has Amaterasu genjutsu etc in his arsenal
Kamui hax can be countered with clones. Itachi has this in the bag imo and stomps with susanoo

Cuz Kamui one shots :elmo:

 

[Antdog]

3 Tome Itachi could likely beat KAkashi after a good fight, with the MS jutsu Itachi will overwhelm Kakashi eventually