War Arc Gaara vs Itachi

[ChocolateVanilla]

Gaara knows nothing about Sharingan: Genjutsu. What he only may know, are Ōnoki's words where he instructed the youngsters not to look at his eyes

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, but further upon that Gaara has pretty much no intel on Itachi's genjutsu prowess. Would you dare to say he wouldn't fall for Utakata? No, impossible. Whether he is more careful or not is irrelevant, because he will either be caught in his genjutsu anyway or Itachi unleashes Amaterasu which will hit regardless Gaara sees it coming or not.​

According to the OP, Gaara knows of Itachi's hype, which would mean that he knows Itachi is able to cast Genjutsu with a finger alone.

In an area where there is a lot of sand, Gaara could manipulate the sand in a fashion to where Itachi is unable to see him. EX: Hiding in a dense sphere of sand, which Itachi can only penetrate through the use of Susano'o which Gaara would be able to pull him out of.
This would make techniques such as Genjutsu, Amaterasu, Goukakyuu etc ineffective.

 

[Rιver]

According to the OP, Gaara knows of Itachi's hype, which would mean that he knows Itachi is able to cast Genjutsu with a finger alone.

In an area where there is a lot of sand, Gaara could manipulate the sand in a fashion to where Itachi is unable to see him. EX: Hiding in a dense sphere of sand, which Itachi can only penetrate through the use of Susano'o which Gaara would be able to pull him out of.
This would make techniques such as Genjutsu, Amaterasu, Goukakyuu etc ineffective.

Itachi's hype involves genjutsu of course—but Utakata? Not possible. Not many knew about this ability, except Naruto of course. However, one who was already heard much of Itachi couldn't even think of getting caught in genjutsu

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; so unless you mean by hype, the full knowledge on one's abilities, Gaara shouldn't know anything about Utakata. Even if he did, he still can't prevent it.

Genjutsu? No, it would work on the third eye regardless. The eye is connected to Gaara's optic nerves.​

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Itachi's hype involves genjutsu of course—but Utakata? Not possible. Not many knew about this ability, except Naruto of course. However, one who was already heard much of Itachi couldn't even think of getting caught in genjutsu

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; so unless you mean by hype, the full knowledge on one's abilities, Gaara shouldn't know anything about Utakata. Even if he did, he still can't prevent it.

Genjutsu? No, it would work on the third eye regardless. The eye is connected to Gaara's optic nerves.​

Fair enough, but that does not change the fact that Gaara would break the visual link, especially when Itachi posses a technique as dangerous as Amaterasu. While he may not know of how the exact mechanics of the technique, he should certainly know that it requires focus on the target.

Gaara is still capable of blocking Itachi's line of sight, like the sphere of sand as mentioned earlier, and he could also create a heavy chakra infused sandstorm, which would make him practically invisible due to the fact that Itachi's Sharingan would not be able to help him locate Gaara. Gaara would not use his third eye for clear reasons, and has

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[Rιver]

Fair enough, but that does not change the fact that Gaara would break the visual link, especially when Itachi posses a technique as dangerous as Amaterasu. While he may not know of how the exact mechanics of the technique, he should certainly know that it requires focus on the target.

Gaara is still capable of blocking Itachi's line of sight, like the sphere of sand as mentioned earlier, and he could also create a heavy chakra infused sandstorm, which would make him practically invisible due to the fact that Itachi's Sharingan would not be able to help him locate Gaara. Gaara would not use his third eye for clear reasons, and has

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If he breaks vision link, that also means that Gaara cannot locate Itachi, while Itachi can with his Sharingan. It gives purely only Itachi the advantage to create a Bunshin, hide and snipe him from distance with whatever technique he thinks of.

Firstly, due to the location this is not desert. Itachi would always avoid the sand, since the sand has chakra infused within it, he would locate it with his Sharingan and always avoid them. That's not working, since Itachi is one of the most analytical ninja's in manga.​

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

If he breaks vision link, that also means that Gaara cannot locate Itachi, while Itachi can with his Sharingan. It gives purely only Itachi the advantage to create a Bunshin, hide and snipe him from distance with whatever technique he thinks of.

Firstly, due to the location this is not desert. Itachi would always avoid the sand, since the sand has chakra infused within it, he would locate it with his Sharingan and always avoid them. That's not working, since Itachi is one of the most analytical ninja's in manga.​

I was under the impression that one of the scenarios took place in the desert. :leaf:
No need to continue this further then

 

[Joki]

In case you didn't know, Itachi is the best genjutsu user in the manga, so whether he did it or not doesn't matter.​

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[blazekev90]

If he breaks vision link, that also means that Gaara cannot locate Itachi, while Itachi can with his Sharingan. It gives purely only Itachi the advantage to create a Bunshin, hide and snipe him from distance with whatever technique he thinks of.

Firstly, due to the location this is not desert. Itachi would always avoid the sand, since the sand has chakra infused within it, he would locate it with his Sharingan and always avoid them. That's not working, since Itachi is one of the most analytical ninja's in manga.​

No, not necessarily. I don't you understand that Garra can't need to be in a dessert in order to have his opponent surrounded by sand. Also, doesn't need to avoid eye connect depending of the distance he kept throughout the fight. If he happens to get too close, he'd simply observe his body movement.

Itachi making clones wouldn't be in his best interest against someone such as Garra. For one, he's have difficulty doing so as Garra has the ability to attack and defend at the same time. Garra would have full coverage of the battlefield, especially with his third eye watching from a distance. This distance making it resist to genjutsu as genjutsu is close/mid range.

Naturally, it would be the other way around. Garra having the ability to wield sand in the midst of covering his body, he can create clones effortlessly without Itachi being appear. Itachi himself can't distinguish clones.

Itachi is ONE is of the most analytical shinobi by hype, Garra on the other has shown to do so in battle.

 

[Rιver]

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That doesn't prove anything. Itachi has stated that anyone with Mangekyō can control the Kyūbi 1.​

No, not necessarily. I don't you understand that Garra can't need to be in a dessert in order to have his opponent surrounded by sand. Also, doesn't need to avoid eye connect depending of the distance he kept throughout the fight. If he happens to get too close, he'd simply observe his body movement.

Itachi making clones wouldn't be in his best interest against someone such as Garra. For one, he's have difficulty doing so as Garra has the ability to attack and defend at the same time. Garra would have full coverage of the battlefield, especially with his third eye watching from a distance. This distance making it resist to genjutsu as genjutsu is close/mid range.

Naturally, it would be the other way around. Garra having the ability to wield sand in the midst of covering his body, he can create clones effortlessly without Itachi being appear. Itachi himself can't distinguish clones.

Itachi is ONE is of the most analytical shinobi by hype, Garra on the other has shown to do so in battle.

Surrounding Itachi with sand is pointless. He would always break out with his Susano'O, and land a sneak hit with Amaterasu after he's gotten out. You also have forgotten that Itachi can monitor the entire battle the flow of his sand with Sharingan, and if he creates more and more. He'll be more cautious, and wouldn't be surprised.

The third eye is still susceptible to genjutsu; whether it's far away or very close doesn't matter as Itachi will track it down with Sharingan and Gaara is caught in genjutsu. And genjutsu is not close range, as it's never been stated so.

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Why wouldn't he distinguish the clones?​

 

[genii96]

How can you put an eye made out of sand in genjutsu?,and how would he even see the eye anyway?does he have a byakugan to see every angle?

 

[Rιver]

How can you put an eye made out of sand in genjutsu?,and how would he even see the eye anyway?does he have a byakugan to see every angle?

He sees chakra in colors. So he would locate it in no time.​

 

[LustyLover]

I have yet to witness an even slightly feasible counter to Amaterasu even though you've all been ganging up on one person here.​

 

[KazekageDaichi]

How can you put an eye made out of sand in genjutsu?,and how would he even see the eye anyway?does he have a byakugan to see every angle?

I know right, it's not even a living being. I still don't get why a genjutsu user would look at the sky to find for an extra eye. Even if the eye were inside his field of view, it would go unnoticed since it's just more infused chakra sand.

 

[LustyLover]

I know right, it's not even a living being. I still don't get why a genjutsu user would look at the sky to find for an extra eye. Even if the eye were inside his field of view, it would go unnoticed since it's just more infused chakra sand.

Lol, yes, you're right, an eye isn't a living being. However, the eye that Gaara creates is connected to the optic nerve so it essentially operates exactly like Gaara's normal eyes would. That's why he closes one eye when he uses his Santon-created one. Since it works exactly like a normal eye and is even connected to Gaara's body, I don't see why Genjutsu wouldn't work on it.​

 

[genii96]

He sees chakra in colors. So he would locate it in no time.​

except gaara can use normal sand to make it,and that one has no chakra in it,and tje fact that he still has to actually have the eye in his line of sight,not to mention the fact that gaara can just hide it at any point behind or above him.

Lol, yes, you're right, an eye isn't a living being. However, the eye that Gaara creates is connected to the optic nerve so it essentially operates exactly like Gaara's normal eyes would. That's why he closes one eye when he uses his Santon-created one. Since it works exactly like a normal eye and is even connected to Gaara's body, I don't see why Genjutsu wouldn't work on it.​

an eye made of sand is not a living thing,it is a cloned eye,and it is connected via chakra,not via any blood vessels,its like saying that if you put a path in genjutsu nagato will get hit.
When genjutsu can affect sand then you can talk

 

[LustyLover]

an eye made of sand is not a living thing,it is a cloned eye,and it is connected via chakra,not via any blood vessels,its like saying that if you put a path in genjutsu nagato will get hit.
When genjutsu can affect sand then you can talk

Nagato's paths weren't connected to his optical nerve as he was only controlling them via chakra rods, so that's irrelevant. You're missing the point. "When Genjutsu can affect sand", how about no. Gaara shouldn't be able to possess the ability of vision through the utilization of sand and yet he does. Your thinking is limited. The eye is connected to his optic nerve which is why he is able to see and he is able to see with a Santon eye that's connected to his own eye and therefore brain so Genjutsu can affect him.​

 

[makosheva7]

Itachi high diff. I think Itachi's intelligence and battle tactics are greatly above Gaara's.

 

[naruto7861]

Comparing gaara to itachi is like comparing kiba to naruto

 

[MickNerks]

Heavenly Illumination will easily break through Gaara's armor and go straight to his flesh. The black flames already tore through this amount of Gaara's sand almost instantly

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. This is more of an amount of sand that resides on his flesh, so if Amaterasu burned through that much it should have no problem burning through less. Itachi, using

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amount, one of a quantity even larger than Sasuke's, will instantly render his armor useless. Gaara's armor was already broken

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. Itachi penetrates his armor with utmost ease.​

I have yet to witness an even slightly feasible counter to Amaterasu even though you've all been ganging up on one person here.​

Counter to Amaterasu:

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The Armour easily counters amaterasu.

Lee had opened his 5th gate which produces way more force than amaterasu. Sasuke didnt use amaterasu on gaara, he used enton. Amaterasu doesnt produce any force, it produces on whatever is in the users line of sight. Enton is a manipulation od amaterasu, which means sasuke can launch it at enemies.

So no, itachi's simple amaterasu isnt harming gaara in the slightest. He easily removes it from his body and continues assault.

 

[LustyLover]

Counter to Amaterasu:

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The Armour easily counters amaterasu.

Lee had opened his 5th gate which produces way more force than amaterasu. Sasuke didnt use amaterasu on gaara, he used enton. Amaterasu doesnt produce any force, it produces on whatever is in the users line of sight. Enton is a manipulation od amaterasu, which means sasuke can launch it at enemies.

So no, itachi's simple amaterasu isnt harming gaara in the slightest. He easily removes it from his body and continues assault.

That's actually not a counter to Amaterasu.

 

[Minato namikaze123]

Itachi high diffs him