[Theory] Wano Country Theories

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Yoh minah, I just wanted to talk about Wano. Since Punk Hazard is just about over (Maybe 1 or 2 chapters left), I thought we should think about the most reasonable option for the next stop, Wano to send Kinemon and Momo home.
From what we know, Wano is a country of Samurai with a closed-door-policy and believes women are an inferior race.

First off, I'll start with their closed-door-policy. Apparently, they don't allow anyone in. But then there's Ace. Ace apparently went to Wano and learned how to make Oars Jr's hat. So, if they let Ace in, either he Solid Snaked in or they let him in. I'm going with the later.

Why would they let him in? I'm guessing the Samurai let very few people in, and you have to do something for them in return. So, the Straw hats basically rescued Kinemon and Momonosuke, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Samurai of Wano let the Straw Hats in.

So, there's that.

Now, the question is, why are Kinemon and Momonosuke NOT at Wano? My initial thought was, Momo was kidnapped from Wano by Doflamingo, explaining the image that appeared in his hunger hallucination. But, then there's the matter of the closed door policy that Wano has. You could argue, Doflamingo was allowed on Wano because he's Shichibukai. But Wano isn't affiliated with the government, so that's out.

So, my theory is that Kinemon and Momonosuke were banished. Either both of them or just one of them and the other came along.

The first scenario, is Momonosuke was banned.My thoughts are this, the samurai don't treat male children like children, and they must act like men even when they're very young. Momonosuke couldn't live up to the expectations on too many occasions, so he was banished. Kinemon didn't want Momo going out into the dangerous New world alone so he offered to go with him, to help him become a man. Momonosuke accidentally went on a ship that was holding some other kids, that was being shipped to Punk hazard. Momonosuke promised himself he'd become a great man and started starving himself.

This could explain why Kinemon had a lot of emotion when Momonosuke declined the food, in an effort to show his manhood.

But, what if Kinemon was the one who got banished? I couldn't think of one for that scenario, so I find that the Momonosuke one is more plausible.

Away from the Kinemon and Momonosuke theories, I have a theory on the people of Wano.

Ryuma's tale is supposedly passed on through generations, making him famous and praised throughout the world as a master swordsman. So, I'd imagine the people of Wano praise him the most and look up to him as a hero. I haven't read "Monsters", but from what Ive seen Wano is the country it takes place, so I'd imagine the people of Wano looked to him as a hero who saved them from the dragon, and he gained a lot of followers who became what today, are known as the Samurai of Wano.

Now, I imagine a very old Samurai, that is their leader.

Ok, my next theory is really far fetched, but hear me out. This old guy, he "sensed" when Ryuma was revived at Thriller Bark, don't ask how, he just did. He sensed his revival and the country celebrated, only for the old samurai to announce he didnt sense him anymore, because he was defeated.

Now, when the Straw Hats get to Wano, they'll hear about what happened. How the old man sensed Ryuma and then didn't. Zoro will announce that he's the one who defeated Ryuma (Keep in mind, Zoro's not known for his intelligence. And I'm sure he wont be too modest about his achievements.) I'm not really sure how the people of Wano would react, so I wont theorize on that
 
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wow you're really on the move XD on topic, don't drop it. ^_^
 

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Beautiful, it's like music to my ears. Although, food for thought, try to use spoilers off and on, some people here may call this a wall of text, even though you paragraphed it well.
 

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This is a very good theory, it's not too far-fetched to me since this is the world of One Piece. However, I feel like Ace must have let himself in at first. Remember how Kinemon first felt about pirates? He hated them, refused any kind of help from them. I imagine the other Samurai being the same way. Being the pirate he was, Ace did whatever he wanted and probably just walked right in. I'd also assume because of Ace's friendly and kind nature, he quickly proved he wasn't a typical pirate and got along with the other samurai.

The rest I agree on but I'll expand with my own thoughts. I can see that Momonosuke being banned and the Kinemon taking the actions you mentioned. I also think the topic of Zoro defeating that famous Samurai will come up as well but I think they will bring it up after seeing the sword he got. I think the samurai will praise Zoro for defeating such a strong opponent and either have him challenge a stronger samurai or he will get another legendary sword. I also think Luffy will get along well with the country once he mentions Ace was his brother.
 

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I think that the Shogun is the new Shichibukai.
It explains how they beat ex admiral Z and cut off his arm. I think he will be up there with Mihawk among top tier swordsmen and he will utterly defeat Zoro , giving him a power up and still losing. ( Sanji will power up in Kanokuni and Luffy vs Burgess in the tournament)
 

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Cool predictions man and if Zoro went to wano the Shisui issue will probably surface and wldn't it b cool like if Shogun of wano used Nitoryu and was in position of Nidai & Shondai Kitetsu, him vs Zoro wld b interesting for me.
 

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Punk Hazard is over xD
It has been for a long time?

OT: Nice theory. I don't really think it would happen though. Would a country seriously exile a child? If so then the leader must be slightly immature like Luffy.
 

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I'm wondering if it has something to do with Momo, Kaido and Doflamingo. Kinemon and Momo seemed to know who Kaido is in a personal manner. The fact that Doflamingo is trying to capture him might be because Kaido told him to.

Hmmm... I might try to make a theory out of this.
 

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Now this thread was a really interesting read. Great Work!! :win:
 

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So, my theory is that Kinemon and Momonosuke were banished. Either both of them or just one of them and the other came along.

The first scenario, is Momonosuke was banned.My thoughts are this, the samurai don't treat male children like children, and they must act like men even when they're very young. Momonosuke couldn't live up to the expectations on too many occasions, so he was banished. Kinemon didn't want Momo going out into the dangerous New world alone so he offered to go with him, to help him become a man. Momonosuke accidentally went on a ship that was holding some other kids, that was being shipped to Punk hazard. Momonosuke promised himself he'd become a great man and started starving himself.

This could explain why Kinemon had a lot of emotion when Momonosuke declined the food, in an effort to show his manhood.

But, what if Kinemon was the one who got banished? I couldn't think of one for that scenario, so I find that the Momonosuke one is more plausible.

Away from the Kinemon and Momonosuke theories, I have a theory on the people of Wano.

Ryuma's tale is supposedly passed on through generations, making him famous and praised throughout the world as a master swordsman. So, I'd imagine the people of Wano praise him the most and look up to him as a hero. I haven't read "Monsters", but from what Ive seen Wano is the country it takes place, so I'd imagine the people of Wano looked to him as a hero who saved them from the dragon, and he gained a lot of followers who became what today, are known as the Samurai of Wano.
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Kinemon stated that he,Momosuke and 2 other Samurai were going to a place called Zo and were ship wreked.... They drifted to Dressrosa but were pursued by subordinates of Donquixote Doflamingo. Momonosuke hid himself in a ship and the ship set sail before Kin'emon could reach him..... Now Luffy has offered them to take Kinemon and Momosuke and their Samurai friends to Wano and Kinemon agreed.... So they aren't banished.... =D =D

Also I have read Monsters and it doesn't take place in Wano.... =D =D
 
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First & foremost, your opening paragraph makes no sense at all. :|

Secondly, I like and also agree to the theory of Momonosuke being banished for reasons stated and Kinemon wanting to help him.

Furthermore, I theorixze that Zoro is actually a descendant of Ryuma and that the Shogun hates Ryuma because the people of Wano love Ryuma for what he did ages ago. So much so that they don't as much appreciate the Shogun's efforts and accomplishments (even though he is highly regarded himself, since he is their leader). So eventually the Shogun somehow realizes who Zoro is (and due to the fact he possesses Ryuma's famed-blade), he fights him.

Lastly, Zoro isn't the type of guy who brags about who he has beat.
 
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