Wait people do realize that Obito's Kamui is the weakest S/T Tech right?

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I don't need a scan if the Databook and Manga gave a description of the Jutsu.

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Guess Sasuke has no defense against Kamui then. GG OreganoSauce
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:lol you don't hear anyone questioning DB going around asking for Scans of Yata blocking any attack and things like that.

Actually this has been done by the very same person that destroyed your other thread as well as many other people on here


If the author says so then that's what it is

You're right which is why this post from you below is wrong

Lol. I dont get it. Sasuke wasn't there long enough to find a method of escape doesn't mean it's impossible. Yes I think he could have escaped via the Rin'engan


And this scan is right. Because the author said so

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Bold makes no sense because 1, he would be caught in it. 2, even if he could understand how the jutsu works it doesn't mean he can stop it because he still needs Sasuke to do so.

We don't know that, since according to you, Sasuke wasn't given enough time to escape the dimension despite the author saying he couldn't escape
 

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Guess Sasuke has no defense against Kamui then. GG OreganoSauce
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Base on what already happen in manga with proof even if you try to escape using S/T jutsu from Kamui that still active on your body. Part of your body will not survive.

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1. GM
2. Deidara

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Unlike Kamui that being use for traveling(Right Kamui), when the target manage to escape using S/T jutsu, his/her entire body will follow but for Kamui Snipe(left Kamui) it can rip apart anything. Even if you try to escape using S/T jutsu, any body part that get suck in wont follow you to another place but rip.
 
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And? That means literally nothing.

You don't fight to singe someone's arm a little bit, you fight to kill or incapacitate, neither of which the team of four of the strongest living shinobi on the planet could accomplish despite knowing exactly how his jutsu worked, and having the ONLY direct counter to it in the manga.
Uh yea it does. In Naruto when have he ever wanted to kill someone? Besides the ones he get really pissed at? Vs Obito all Naruto wanted at that time was to break his mask and know his identity. And even then Kakashi near the END of the fight found out how his technique works and how to counter it. Just because to you it means nothing but reality that's everything. Fact is fact Kakashi found out Obito's weakness and how his technique works. And since then Obito was getting hit and started trying to be careful with using kamui.
Sure, but the fact that Kakashi had to cooperate with both Naruto and Gai and had to use a S/T ninjutsu just exploit Obito's own technique suggests it's not as simple as understanding that he has to solidify to attack, especially when we take into consideration that there's honestly no real way to anticipate when he's intending to phase or not considering Obito only phases in response to his body making physical contact with an opposing attack.

I'd honestly chalk that situation up to being an inconsistency. I'm honestly not sure what to make it of it when Minato established exactly what you were suggesting before:

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True but I'm not really saying it was that simple. Kakashi had to really analyze Obito's kamui. And the fact that when he used his while Obito was intangible he still got hit because Kakashi sent Naruto's Rasengan into kamui realm. So yea it took a lot of time and analyzing to figure it out.

I agree with the other part unless Sharingan can see a shift in his chakra maybe? Other than that it would be hard to tell.

That's the scan I was looking for but I thought konan or Sakura can to that conclusion I completely forgot Minato said it also. So it's probably is an inconsistency there. Or Obito for what 15? Year's had enough time to perfect his kamui and rid that effect/weakness.
 

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Uh yea it does. In Naruto when have he ever wanted to kill someone? Besides the ones he get really pissed at? Vs Obito all Naruto wanted at that time was to break his mask and know his identity. And even then Kakashi near the END of the fight found out how his technique works and how to counter it. Just because to you it means nothing but reality that's everything. Fact is fact Kakashi found out Obito's weakness and how his technique works. And since then Obito was getting hit and started trying to be careful with using kamui.

Not to sound like a douche, but you aren't making much sense and seems like you're downplaying
 

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Base on what already happen in manga with proof even if you try to escape using S/T jutsu from Kamui that still active on your body. Part of your body will not survive.

Victim:-

1. GM
2. Deidara

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Unlike Kamui that being use for traveling(Right Kamui), when the target manage to escape using S/T jutsu, his/her entire body will follow but for Kamui Snipe(left Kamui) it can rip apart anything. Even if you try to escape using S/T jutsu, any body part that get suck in wont follow you to another place but rip.

Maybe, I think Sasuke can escape. But ehhhhhh....

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The strongest Space time is Amenotejikara
 

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why you always come up with the most retarded threads on this base?

Your username is mere example of nothing but fanfics.Kamui is by far the most strongest S/T jutsu. There is a reason kishi destroyed it before ending the manga. Dual Kamui eyes in a single person already showed us how much OP Kamui is.
 

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Seriously? Kamui is the most powerful jutsu in naruto ---->FACT
 

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I'm not saying it's weakest each of them have certain strengths and weaknesses, but overall what it allows could justify it being considered of the best
 

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DMS Obito unrestricted is the strongest character in Narutoverse. Kishi had to nerf him by restricting him with 1 eye and even then by PLOT otherwise everyone would've been fked.
 

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FTG, Kamui, Ameno, and Kaguya's S/T jutsu aren't better or worse than one another. Just different. They all have their ups and downs.

Ameno-the fastest reacting of the group but the shortest range and longest cooldown
FTG-greatest range, once marked always marked but limited to 5 uses and must have something marked prior to activating
Kaguya's S/T-instant multiple dimensions bit uses up more chakra than any of the others
Kamui-can go intangible, go into another dimension, but slow to use without both eyes within close proximity.

They all have their pros and cons, just depends on who and how they are used.
 

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FTG, Kamui, Ameno, and Kaguya's S/T jutsu aren't better or worse than one another. Just different. They all have their ups and downs.

Ameno-the fastest reacting of the group but the shortest range and longest cooldown
FTG-greatest range, once marked always marked but limited to 5 uses and must have something marked prior to activating
Kaguya's S/T-instant multiple dimensions bit uses up more chakra than any of the others
Kamui-can go intangible, go into another dimension, but slow to use without both eyes within close proximity.

They all have their pros and cons, just depends on who and how they are used.

I see what u r trying to say but Overall effectiveness Kamui is at the bottom

Amenominaka - Can warp you to different dimensions in a instant
Amenotijikara - can warp or swap anything within the raduis in an istant
FTG - Warps instananeously and it's warp speed is faster than Kamui
Kamui - Slowest warp speed, can't warp without establishing physical contanct, some part of the user must be tangible for attacks to be made
 

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Guess Sasuke has no defense against Kamui then. GG OreganoSauce
#KamuisnipeGGpizzasaucegettossed




Actually this has been done by the very same person that destroyed your other thread as well as many other people on here




You're right which is why this post from you below is wrong




And this scan is right. Because the author said so

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We don't know that, since according to you, Sasuke wasn't given enough time to escape the dimension despite the author saying he couldn't escape
Grasping as straws again. That whole only kamui can counter kamui was made redudnant when FTG countered Kamui. It only works if the statement hasn't been contradicted :lol

You mean that KidGamer guy? He didn't destroy anything and I'm sure he would try to deny Manga and Databook fact that Yata can block any attack because he doesn't want to belive the author can make a shiled is his own story thats capable of doing that because he needs facts which is retarded and no surprise you think the same thing

Again the scan says "Nothing I do works" How do you know what sasuke tried from what he didnt? Oh wait you don't cuz all you're doing is assuming and no he wasn't given enough time or did you forget Sasuke was decleared a GENIUS from the very beginning of the Manga.
At that time he couldnt but now he can. But still opening a portal is not a part of Amenotejikara capability as DB never said it.






lel simplistic and uneducated thinking here.

Konan need years preparing a strategy to counter Obito but if you base your judgement on escaping capability against a lake of paper bomb, its not enough. Obito can finish off Konan easily if he have both Kamui. Its pity that he only had Travel and intangibility type Kamui eye at that time and not offensive Kamui which Kakashi holds. Who need to escape when you can just go for kill without slowing down like FTG user.

Like I said before Kamui Snipe is a Good Bye attack

It doesn't matter. Amenotijikara is the only S/T Ninjutsu Sasuke has so if he opens the portal its the same jutsu but probably an upgrade or diffrient variation.

What part of How would double Kamui make obito beat Konan please do tell. He'd still have to warp to evade the attack and sacrifice 1 eye for Izanagi. Having a Double Kamui he would still be in the same tier because again it's the same Jutsu with the same limitations and nothing is changed
 

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I see what u r trying to say but Overall effectiveness Kamui is at the bottom

Amenominaka - Can warp you to different dimensions in a instant
Amenotijikara - can warp or swap anything within the raduis in an istant
FTG - Warps instananeously and it's warp speed is faster than Kamui
Kamui - Slowest warp speed, can't warp without establishing physical contanct, some part of the user must be tangible for attacks to be made

Still bloody blind as always. Slowest warp speed that only FTG or any other S/T jutsu users can escape from it once it connected at start warping. Its like a black hole. OK, they can escape from 1 type of Kamui unharm but the other type is the lethal one. It can rip your body part even though you manage to jump out using S/T jutsu. This kind of Kamui can holds Space and time to stand still where anything within the vortex of S/T clash will render any movement/activities immovable.

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That is Kamui Snipe.
 

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Still bloody blind as always. Slowest warp speed that only FTG or any other S/T jutsu users can escape from it once it connected at start warping. Its like a black hole. OK, they can escape from 1 type of Kamui unharm but the other type is the lethal one. It can rip your body part even though you manage to jump out using S/T jutsu. This kind of Kamui can holds Space and time to stand still where anything within the vortex of S/T clash will render any movement/activities immovable.

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That is Kamui Snipe.

Once again the bold is baseless because that was never shown or stated in the Manga lmao. Stop grasping at straws and inventing abilities to defend your point. That scan doesn't show time and space being held still it shows Kamui warping as it always does and it's already been evaded by S/T Ninjutsu because it's warp speed isn't instantaneous and is slower than something like FTG or Ameno.
 

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DMS Obito unrestricted is the strongest character in Narutoverse. Kishi had to nerf him by restricting him with 1 eye and even then by PLOT otherwise everyone would've been fked.

Stopped reading at the bold. You're just another blind fanboy passing through :lol If you think 1 Technique makes you the strongest then you don't understand the Naruto Manga
 

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What part of How would double Kamui make obito beat Konan please do tell. He'd still have to warp to evade the attack and sacrifice 1 eye for Izanagi. Having a Double Kamui he would still be in the same tier because again it's the same Jutsu with the same limitations and nothing is changed

If you read Naruto only bcus of your idol you worship that's why your analytical thinking is not good.

First of all you always said "still be in the same tier". What actually you're talking about?

Second we are not focusing on Obito but his MS eyes. Give this eyes to Madara or Hashirama or any Six Path power user you will see how majestic and effective this eyes S/T jutsu can be compare to the other S/T jutsu minus Kaguya's own.

I explain above about Kamui Snipe Function. What it can do. With both eyes together the warping speed will be much faster. Either for Travelling into dimension or Sniping/attacking people from distance. Obito can used that to attack Konan's body part unknown by her. In this situation I'm say Obito not fully reveal his DMS full potential like Kamui Snipe or Susanoo (Uchiha with MS can unlock this). Unless in serious battle and in this case with Konan or Minato.

He mostly will use his Kamui for travel and intangibility bcus its enough if he up against random or weaker shinobi.

I can create fanfic using this Obito where you only can use Konan with her years of preps bcus if you trying to change Konan's original battle strategy it will kill her chance unlike my DMS Obito.
 
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Once again the bold is baseless because that was never shown or stated in the Manga lmao. Stop grasping at straws and inventing abilities to defend your point. That scan doesn't show time and space being held still it shows Kamui warping as it always does and it's already been evaded by S/T Ninjutsu because it's warp speed isn't instantaneous and is slower than something like FTG or Ameno.

I'm not inventing anything here as you who I debate here right now seriously lacking in reading comprehension and analytic skill.

OK If Kamui Snipe cant stop still flying Ash Bone, why I see it stop moving there when Kamui Vortex activate? It should still able to travel past that vortex before Kamui close the opening of Yomotsu Hirasaka completely? Why?

It because Kamui Vortex disrupt the Space and Time. Travel involving Time and Space. When Time stood still travelling also will stood still not moving. Thats why if you watch fiction story when someone used Time stop, all moving object inside large space will stop moving.

Same thing happen to Ash Bone above where it travels between Space.

If you still cant understand. This is simple explanation on how Kamui Snipe will not let you go unharmed. GM is big mean Kakashi need massive chakra to Kamui GM's body part but he still manage to tears GM's arm even though Madara already activating summoning Jutsu(S/T jutsu). The thing is, even if Sasauke manage to escape from Kamui Snipe, his body part let say his arm already being dismember by Kamui Snipe.

Problem for Sasuke
 
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