Wait people do realize that Obito's Kamui is the weakest S/T Tech right?

[BenjerminGaye]

[B]Obito's weakness is he can't phase and attack at the same time. Once people find out that weakness it's GG for him. The offensive kamui is OP on the other hand. :lol people saying his kamui wasn't useless because he saved Sasuke with it. That was only possible because Kaguya opened one of her dimensions for Obito to kamui into it. [/B]

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[Ansatsuken]

Are you serious??? Dude you literally just said that I was making a mistake because I was comparing Minato beating a 1MS Obito as opposed to a double MS and you gave a example about a 1 eyed Rin'negan user. You point is shit and Sasuke owning the eyes has nothing to do with anything But based on that spelling tho its obvious that your eyes are weak :lol try harder

You are close minded and have narrow thinking capability.

I catch your thinking. You type "Obito's Kamui" on your thread title and focus only on Obito(Tobi) that Up Against Minato. To wider your brain path way I help and clear it for you. Kakashi was using Obito's eye all along this time. You tried to separate a pair of eyes that originally belong to one person(Obito) and make the original owner have his own eye and separated him from Kakashi that actually using Obito's eye. Making Kakashi as the original owner of MS. Its wrong way of thinking.

Your are speaking about "Obito's Kamui". Not left and not Right. Sure single MS(Kamui) is weak but not when in pair.

Here what I see and get is you tried to compare single Kamui(MS) that Obito holds to other S/T jutsus. Bcus of that you couldnt get the idea behind 'Single Rinnegan point' I bring here.

 

[ComplexCity]

Lmao Sasuke was no where near death when Obito opened the portal.

Guess being trapped in a desert with no food or water means for certain that you're guaranteed life. Please tell me how Sasuke would not have died

[Exaggerating isn't going to help your point dude and I was obviously referring to after he got his power back. Sasuke never made a portal while he didn't have his power. Try harder.

You said it's effortless. I'll take Sasuke's words over yours though

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Or is Sasuke wrong in this case?

[I said the tech is Kage level because they're kage level ninja that can outwit the technique but something like Ameno would be above Kage level. As I said DMS Kakashi would not beat a Rin'negan Sasuke because DMS Kakashi's attacks are all the same jutsu.

Let's be real. If Sasuke had Kamui it would automatically be God tier

[The Kamui shurikens work just like regular Kamui. Any shinobi with an IQ higher than Kaguyas the means to evade and counter can get around those and that include all other S/T Ninjutsu users

What's funny is she evaded Ameno and not the fodder like jutsu you keep downplaying. I find that quite odd

 

[SasukeSixPack]

1. Yes it would if someone with more attack power and faster movement speeds.

2. Ameno has a cool down. Kamui allows you to go fully intangible.

1. FTG isn't an attack, it's teleportation. The attack following it has nothing to do with FTG. As I said, same jutsu, different user. Simple.

2. Kamui has a time limit. Ameno allows the user to react instantly meaning If obito tries to attack Sasuke directly he'll he killed instantly whether he goes intangible or not.

 

[ComplexCity]

The Moment Obito becomes tangible he gets murked.

Same could be said about other chars such as Madara and Gai. Not really answering my question though

Nothing here limits him from swapping across dimensions within the Radius and he can escape any of obitos attacks. He's good as dead trust me on this

So you think Sasuke can Ameno people in different dimensions?

 

[Styles]

Doesn't matter, without it Sasuke would have died. Don't see why people always try to defend Sasuke/Naruto for


Also, where did it say in the manga that O - Kamui can't be used while D Kamui is being used?

Uh how was I defending Sasuke? All I said was the only reason Sasuke was saved was because he used kamui when Kaguya opened her dimension portal. People here are acting like kamui was the main reason Sasuke was saved.
And uh it's been said in the manga that Obito can't go intangible and attack at the same time. He have to be completely solid to use any type of offensive technique.

Issue is, such a simplistic observation has never led to Obito being defeated unless done with an elaborate strategy.

That and no one really knew of his technique. Sakura with just a bit of intel(from watching him fight when Sasuke was fighting Itachi) knew to an extent of how his kamui worked. Kakashi in the war arc did also from fighting him.

Then kamui user would simply switch back. Time to open portal is slower than jumping to kamui

Then how about obito saving you fav fodder ass when he was about become nothing against ohnoki's jinton

The hell are you talking about? No one of even brung Oonoki up or Sasuke getting saved by jinton.

 

[ComplexCity]

2. Kamui has a time limit. Ameno allows the user to react instantly meaning If obito tries to attack Sasuke directly he'll he killed instantly where he goes intangible or not[.

 

[Senpou]

Then kamui user would simply switch back. Time to open portal is slower than jumping to kamui
Opening portals also weakens sasukes rinnegan for a period of time. Obito can constantly go to kamui dimension without it severely weakening his dojutsu

Yes, not to mention kamui user can make their individual body parts intangible and it alone makes it so hard to deal with.

 

[ComplexCity]

People here are acting like kamui was the main reason Sasuke was saved.

I mean did you not read the manga or??????

And uh it's been said in the manga that Obito can't go intangible and attack at the same time. He have to be completely solid to use any type of offensive technique.

Yes for physical techniques. Can this be proven with another MS though? Not saying it's fact but we don't know if it can or not

 

[NarutoX28]

That and no one really knew of his technique. Sakura with just a bit of intel(from watching him fight when Sasuke was fighting Itachi) knew to an extent of how his kamui worked. Kakashi in the war arc did also from fighting him.

I'm just emphasizing that simply having a simplistic understanding such as Obito being incapable of phasing and fighting offensively simultaneously has never resulted in Obito getting slaughtered. Even Minato needed FTG to have the speed required to defeat Obito.

 

[The Messiah]

1. FTG isn't an attack, it's teleportation. The attack following it has nothing to do with FTG. As I said, same jutsu, different user. Simple.

2. Kamui has a time limit. Ameno allows the user to react instantly meaning If obito tries to attack Sasuke directly he'll he killed instantly whether he goes intangible or not.

1. It would be utilized better by someone stronger

2. I'm not arguing kamui is better or that obito beats sasuke but kamui simply has it's advantages.

 

[The Necromancer]

That and no one really knew of his technique. Sakura with just a bit of intel(from watching him fight when Sasuke was fighting Itachi) knew to an extent of how his kamui worked. Kakashi in the war arc did also from fighting him.

You realize that even after an MS user with the same S/T ability, two Perfect Jinchuriki of the two strongest Bijuu, and a 7th Gate user knew of Obito's weakness and the exact mechanics of his jutsu, they still couldn't land a killing blow, right?

 

[ComplexCity]

1. It would be utilized better by someone stronger

2. I'm not arguing kamui is better or that obito beats sasuke but kamui simply has it's advantages.

Nah, Kamui is fodder because Ameno can switch people in other dimensions+

You realize that even after an MS user with the same S/T ability, two Perfect Jinchuriki of the two strongest Bijuu, and a 7th Gate user knew of Obito's weakness and the exact mechanics of his jutsu, they still couldn't land a killing blow, right?

Wow we actually agree on something.

 

[The Messiah]

He had RSM Naruto and a Byakugo user pump chakra into his body. Weakened my a$$


The Moment Obito becomes tangible he gets murked. Also



Nothing here limits him from swapping across dimensions within the Radius and he can escape any of obitos attacks. He's good as dead trust me on this

He needed Naruto and sakura's chakra because he was extremely weakened

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Guess being trapped in a desert with no food or water means for certain that you're guaranteed life. Please tell me how Sasuke would not have died




You said it's effortless. I'll take Sasuke's words over yours though

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Or is Sasuke wrong in this case?



Let's be real. If Sasuke had Kamui it would automatically be God tier





What's funny is she evaded Ameno and not the fodder like jutsu you keep downplaying. I find that quite odd

He could summon Aoda and reverse summon to escape like he did with Manda :lol And that scan doesn't mean anything because Obito's dimension isn't Kaguya's and it gets thrown out the window with this

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If Sasuke had Kamui it would be in the same tier because Kamui never developed into anything different nor showed any different power to what we saw throughout all of part 2. You're grasping at straws now :lol When did she evade Ameno? link the scan

 

[Ansatsuken]

1. FTG isn't an attack, it's teleportation. The attack following it has nothing to do with FTG. As I said, same jutsu, different user. Simple.

2. Kamui has a time limit. Ameno allows the user to react instantly meaning If obito tries to attack Sasuke directly he'll he killed instantly whether he goes intangible or not.

You want to get the answer/people opinion on whether Kamui is the weakest or not but what I see now is mostly about Kamui vs Amenotejikara.

Please stick to the main objective SasukeSickPotato.

 

[SasukeSixPack]

Same could be said about other chars such as Madara and Gai. Not really answering my question though

So you think Sasuke can Ameno people in different dimensions?

No...because there's a difference. Unlinke MAdara Obito can't regenerate and unlike guy Obito can't react

Sasuke can Ameno anything within the radius that was the MANGA and databook says. There was no restrictions on dimensions. I don't think you understand Sasuke's power...

1. It would be utilized better by someone stronger

2. I'm not arguing kamui is better or that obito beats sasuke but kamui simply has it's advantages.

1. Doesn't matter because it's still the same ability. Naruto can't make FTG stronger in any sense

2. Advantages doesn't mean it's overall better. Some situations having a tech like FTG or Ameno is better, in other situations having a tech like Kamui is better. Simple. but over all, Kamui is the weakest and you'll just have to accept that

 

[ComplexCity]

He could summon Aoda and reverse summon to escape like he did with Manda :lol

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And that scan doesn't mean anything because Obito's dimension isn't Kaguya's and it gets thrown out the window with this

Don't see how this is relevant to my post. You said he can make dimensions effortlessly. Maybe you should choose your verbiage better

If Sasuke had Kamui it would be in the same tier

I highly doubt that

because Kamui never developed into anything different nor showed any different power to what we saw throughout all of part 2.

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You're grasping at straws now :lol When did she evade Ameno? link the scan

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[ComplexCity]

No...because there's a difference. Unlinke MAdara Obito can't regenerate and unlike guy Obito can't react

Sasuke can Ameno anything within the radius that was the MANGA and databook says. There was no restrictions on dimensions. I don't think you understand Sasuke's power...

Full Definition of dimension
1
a (1) : measure in one direction; specifically : one of three coordinates determining a position in space or four coordinates determining a position in space and time

radius
noun ra·di·us \ˈrā-dē-əs\

: an area that goes outward in all directions from a particular place

 

[The Necromancer]

He could summon Aoda and reverse summon to escape like he did with Manda

Sasuke specifically said "Nothing I do works." You think he just forgot to use a Space-Time jutsu while trapped in another dimension? Use your head.

That's not even to mention that Kakashi found it amazing that Sasuke could even summon to Kaguya's dimension in the first place. And Minato claimed in his fight against Obito that the first to land their jutsu would be the undisputed victor, meaning he inferred that he couldn't FTG or reverse summon out of whatever dimension he would be pulled into.

All facts lead to the conclusion that no fodder can simply "reverse summon" their master out of another dimension.