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[Netflix and Chill]

Ok so we all know that Naruto is Ashura's reincarnation and his character is one that prefers cooperation and values his comrades, that's the way he's written.

We also know that Sasuke is Indra's reincarnation, his character is one that relies on his own power and does everything by himself right? So them why did Sasuke receive so much help thought the manga? So much so that it's debatable who received more help between him and Naruto, Isn't that odd? Does that mean that Sasuke wasn't strong enough and is a week reincarnation of Indra because he had to rely on the help of so many others to accomplish his goals?

Discuss.

 

[Umari Senju]

Well I think the difference is in the method.

Naruto earned his help through friendship and compassion.

Sasuke took his by force more or less. Even though Indra is a loner by nature, I doubt even he himself did absolutely everything on his own.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Well shit, son...

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Holy bubbles son.

 

[Megatolium]

Sasuke was willing to kill Karin and saw her as nothing but an pawn.

Madara did the same with Obito.

Its not that they get partners to help them in their quest for power, its more like they'll use anyone to get to that goal.

 

[ChicagoJhawk]

Plot?

 

[Styles]

Ok so we all know that Naruto is Ashura's reincarnation and his character is one that prefers cooperation and values his comrades, that's the way he's written.

We also know that Sasuke is Indra's reincarnation, his character is one that relies on his own power and does everything by himself right? So them why did Sasuke receive so much help thought the manga? So much so that it's debatable who received more help between him and Naruto, Isn't that odd? Does that mean that Sasuke wasn't strong enough and is a week reincarnation of Indra because he had to rely on the help of so many others to accomplish his goals?

Discuss.

Sasuke used his as pawns for his own benefit Madara did the same. It's the way and the methods of how they did it force and gained.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

lol seems like everyone is just as confused about this as I am, dat Sasuke...

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

It's not really debatable. Not to downplay anybody, but Ashura and Naruto were all about friendship and teamwork. Sasuke mostly manipulated and used people, rather than connect with them.

And nice try at the whole "weak* incarnation of Indra" but he was far more naturally talented than any other incarnation, and, since you obviously aim to start a flame war, I'll do it for you... more talented than Naruto.

 

[KesOnFire]

Sasuke needed a lot of help lol

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Sasuke used his as pawns for his own benefit Madara did the same. It's the way and the methods of how they did it force and gained.

Iirc Madara didn't need Obito to follow him around and save his life a bunch of times, also Sasuke had a crew that he cared for on some level, he showed this in his fight against B and a few other times. When Madara left the village he went solo just like Indra so what happened to Sasuke?

 

[Styles]

Iirc Madara didn't need Obito to follow him around and save his life a bunch of times, also Sasuke had a crew that he cared for on some level, he showed this in his fight against B and a few other times. When Madara left the village he went solo just like Indra so what happened to Sasuke?

Except in the end all of them was pawns taka/hebi Obito Nagato akatsuki etc. Madara went alone because no one would follow him but in Sasuke's case people did follow him.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

It's not really debatable. Not to downplay anybody, but Ashura and Naruto were all about friendship and teamwork. Sasuke mostly manipulated and used people, rather than connect with them.

And nice try at the whole "weak* incarnation of Indra" but he was far more naturally talented than any other incarnation, and, since you obviously aim to start a flame war, I'll do it for you... more talented than Naruto.

Hey I just asked a simple question that's all, some Sasuke fans are so sensitive smh.

 

[Chaosmark101]

The Indra Ashura transmigrant was a last minute addition to the manga. Wasn't that obvious

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Except in the end all of them was pawns taka/hebi Obito Nagato akatsuki etc. Madara went alone because no one would follow him but in Sasuke's case people did follow him.

Obito used Sasuke and fed him a bunch of lies iirc

 

[Netflix and Chill]

The Indra Ashura transmigrant was a last minute addition to the manga. Wasn't that obvious

Last minute? You sure about that?

 

[Chaosmark101]

Last minute? You sure about that?

Yeah pretty sure.

 

[Styles]

Obito used Sasuke and fed him a bunch of lies iirc

Sasuke was also using Obito. And the stuff Obito told Sasuke was true about his clan etc.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Yeah pretty sure.

Chapter 462 is hardly last minute

 

[Chaosmark101]

Chapter 462 is hardly last minute

Obito telling Naruto that him & Sasuke are fated to fight like the sages sons, & Madara & Hashirama which both were distantly related to Is not the same as Hagoromo telling Naruto his dead kids ghosts were literally possessing people, influencing their lives.

Edit:Further evidence is that Madara wasn't equal to Hashirama. While Indra & Ashura stalemated in canon