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[The Hidden Shinobi]

Wait a minute

Has Izuna even had 1 line in this manga

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Call me crazy but i'm starting to think he isn't even relevant in any way to the story.

Is there even 1 link to tobi being Izuna?

Is Izuna even stronger then madara what would be the point in having both of them here, where would be the variety.

Basically what I am saying Izuna isn't even a relevant character in the series, he was only shown to further the character development of Madara

Familiar line isn't ^

 

[minato23]

The first line actually made me lol ^_^

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

His basically a used condom.

Lol basically

 

[Dantee]

Everyone wants to be right

 

[Sexy Steel]

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i agree

 

[~Dream~]

He was just a character to give Madara ems.

 

[Gèckö]

i'm sure there is but i might not be able to find itxd

 

[KaedaLimbu]

he's blind, he's dead.
where does he fit? lol

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

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This is a thread that I created a long time ago (as soon as I joined NB) ..check it out :

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not claiming anything , just answering what you're saying , It's all mere assumptions ,
the back-story and explanation is up to Kishi ...

 

[julio10ification]

thank you someone with common sense we know nothing of izuna except he was on pour with madara. theres no way someone with no back story like that wouldnt be an exception to be tobi

 

[Champ]

Why can't you spell

 

[Henrik]

Better than being Obito, atleast that would explain the Tobi giving the Rinnegan to Nagato/make Yahiko create Akatsuki.

You have to understand that Obito attacked his own village at age 14 (1 year after Minato become Hokage, and he become Hokage right after Obito's death - 3 great ninja war).

And in one year he have learned how to control the kyuubi, space time jutsus, things about Hashirama, Madara and even the Rikudou sennin/juubi? Tobi said ''Do you have any idea how long i've waited for this moment!?'' - and 1 year isnt much in Naruto-years.

Izuna or Elder son would explain much of the plot holes, but Obito? Kishi cannot explain the fact that Tobi gave Nagato rinnegan, because that was the 2 great ninja war and before Obito or Kakashi were born :|

HOWEVER; i've said I will give this a little chance since he is my favorite character. The reason why I don't like this is because I fear Naruto's speak no jutsu will make him nice and die like other villains (Nagato for example). If Tobi is just like he have always been, then I don't... mind it I guess. Kishi better not chance Tobi now

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Why can't you spell

You are seriously taking one spelling mistake seriously? :ice: well sorry if it means that much

Better than being Obito, atleast that would explain the Tobi giving the Rinnegan to Nagato/make Yahiko create Akatsuki.

You have to understand that Obito attacked his own village at age 14 (1 year after Minato become Hokage, and he become Hokage right after Obito's death - 3 great ninja war).

And in one year he have learned how to control the kyuubi, space time jutsus, things about Hashirama, Madara and even the Rikudou sennin/juubi? Tobi said ''Do you have any idea how long i've waited for this moment!?'' - and 1 year isnt much in Naruto-years.

Izuna or Elder son would explain much of the plot holes, but Obito? Kishi cannot explain the fact that Tobi gave Nagato rinnegan, because that was the 2 great ninja war and before Obito or Kakashi were born :|

HOWEVER; i've said I will give this a little chance since he is my favorite character. The reason why I don't like this is because I fear Naruto's speak no jutsu will make him nice and die like other villains (Nagato for example). If Tobi is just like he have always been, then I don't... mind it I guess. Kishi better not chance Tobi now

It would explain that yes but him posing as madara explains that as well.

Sasuke went up against 5 kages at 16 Obito went up against 1 kage at 14 uchiha's are cocky

I agree with this 1 year thing but As soon as sasuke unlocked his MS he could use his techs and as soon as Itachi unlocked his MS he used tsukuyomi. So obito having 1 year is not that difficult. Also I'm sure it doesn't take over a year to learn how to control the kyuubi once you have awakened MS. And Tobi didn't know anything about madara and hashi to our knowledge at that time. He may of learn those things after he did use nagato as a pawn and he also went to the mist village we can see he done a lot of things after the nine tails attack

I agree 1 year isn't that long

Madara would explain a lot of plot holes as well, ahh enough of that one Tobi was posing as madaraaa when he said those things

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I will feel the same as you

I completely agree man Tobi is a boss and if obito remains a Boss then I won't mind either.

Just look at him he's still bad ass and look at the panel that is zoomed out on him he can still be bad ass I hope he is

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This is a thread that I created a long time ago (as soon as I joined NB) ..check it out :

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not claiming anything , just answering what you're saying , It's all mere assumptions ,
the back-story and explanation is up to Kishi ...

Very nice, well thought out theory. It makes sense but I just don't see Izuna happening. Why you we need 2 brothers as villains as main villains it's kinda pointless. Plus Izuna is weaker then madara not having EMS and Rinnegan we don't need him. Kishi has provided us with main villains from all generations. Madara from izuna's and hashi's Oro's from Hiruzen's and J-man's Obito from Minato's and kakashi and sasuke from Naruto's. That is varitey and they are all different with different reasons for hatred. Madara and Izuna would be like the same villain to me.

 

[Henrik]

You are seriously taking one spelling mistake seriously? :ice: well sorry if it means that much




It would explain that yes but him posing as madara explains that as well.

Sasuke went up against 5 kages at 16 Obito went up against 1 kage at 14 uchiha's are cocky

I agree with this 1 year thing but As soon as sasuke unlocked his MS he could use his techs and as soon as Itachi unlocked his MS he used tsukuyomi. So obito having 1 year is not that difficult. Also I'm sure it doesn't take over a year to learn how to control the kyuubi once you have awakened MS. And Tobi didn't know anything about madara and hashi to our knowledge at that time. He may of learn those things after he did use nagato as a pawn and he also went to the mist village we can see he done a lot of things after the nine tails attack

I agree 1 year isn't that long

Madara would explain a lot of plot holes as well, ahh enough of that one Tobi was posing as madaraaa when he said those things

If naruto talk no jutsu is used

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I will feel the same as you

I completely agree man Tobi is a boss and if obito remains a Boss then I won't mind either.

Just look at him he's still bad ass and look at the panel that is zoomed out on him he can still be bad ass I hope he is

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Very nice, well thought out theory. It makes sense but I just don't see Izuna happening. Why you we need 2 brothers as villains as main villains it's kinda pointless. Plus Izuna is weaker then madara not having EMS and Rinnegan we don't need him. Kishi has provided us with main villains from all generations. Madara from izuna's and hashi's Oro's from Hiruzen's and J-man's Obito from Minato's and kakashi and sasuke from Naruto's. That is varitey and they are all different with different reasons for hatred. Madara and Izuna would be like the same villain to me.

Sasuke is a main character, just like Naruto. You can't compare Sasuke and Obito, it's like comparing Neji and Sasuke, seriously. It's a pretty big difference between 14 and 16, and be able to control the kyuubi.

Tobirama was able to use space time ninjutsu, so I don't think that's just an MS technique. He fought equal to Minato Namikaze, and controlled the kyuubi after one year; that's seriously one big plot hole, not to mention that Tobi controlled the 4. Mizukage - a perfect jinchuuriki with a genjutsu in years.

If you are saying that Tobi didnt know about Madara, Hashirama and the Juubi knowledge... Then why had he planned the 'Moon eye plan'?

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''Oh, you know.. it's fun, it's part of my plan... To start a war to bring peace'' That is his exactly same goal now, so it is obvious that he knew all about the Juubi, Rikudou sennin, Madara and Hashirama at that time. He also stated that he had Senju DNA (That's why he was able to use a so good Izanagi), and he have Hashirama's body.

The thing is that, Tobi have been my favorite character in 4 years, and I am disappointed as hell for him being Obito. We all know Kishi, and he will do the same old shit. Naruto will talk to Tobi, and Tobi will become nice - that's shit about him being Obito. It would also be shit if he took revenge on Kakashi because Rin loved him more than Obito.