wait a mintue is this a plot hole or did kishi troll the reaper death seal? read now!

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summoning use blood so i guess if he have a summoning contract you only need blood to to perform it and during the fight that was the only jutsu he used and he did it with out handseals so maybe summoning jutsu is the exception to the rule
 

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To the people saying he's using another vessel: He wasnt even using his body when he was fighting Hiruzen, he was using a vessel.
 

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To the people saying he's using another vessel: He wasnt even using his body when he was fighting Hiruzen, he was using a vessel.

but he moved to a new one, and gained all of its abilities. which includes the use of limbs
 

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When Orochimaru asked Hiruzen to stop sealing his arms...did he expect he'd listen?
 

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I don't think the soul is limited to one form.
Oro's hands and arms don't have their own soul, it's just the soul takes the shape of the body.
Once he left that body, the soul re-formed itself to fit the new body.
 

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Oh I will assume this is what you meant on your comment in my thread. My conclusion: You do not understand the manga.

Summoning Jutsu, while classified as ninjutsu works different than regular ninjutsu and has its own set of rules. All you need to summon is the blood of the caster and the hand placement on the summoning location. No hand seals are used except for when the original summoning takes place. If you want to argue that Orochimaru needs to direct his chakra flow to his hands, then that's what Orochimaru's summoning tattoo is for. Sasuke uses summoning tattoos as well with his weapons.

Orochimaru wanted Tsunade to heal the necrosis on his arms, and the rest of his soul would still be able to control the healed arms for mere Taijutsu. This is the same for his new body. Sarutobi really did a number on Orochimaru, and left him without Jutsu...Sasuke's victory over Orochimaru is because of Hiruzen.

This is the reason that Orochimaru can only use summoning techniques in the second arc; Triple Rashoumon and Hidden Striking Shadow Snakes are both summoning techniques.
 
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Nope. No trolling. His hands are sealed but still can do summoning. Do you not remember the sanin fight? Orochimaru's blood and summoning tattoos or symbols. Look at tenten rock lee and sasuke. No trolling.
 

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Okay I will debunk the owner of this thread before he tries to debunk me, except I will back it up with manga information:

 

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it was because he had a new body. basically, it wasn't his arms. they were his vessels that he was using.

and btw, it was triple rashamon. not 4 gates xD
 

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Someone is not reading. In order to use ninjutsu you need the soul to direct your chakra. Even if Orochimaru controls someone else's body, he cannot use ninjutsu as long as his chakra arms are sealed. Read.
 

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I think the new vessel solved the problem. deathgod jutsu still awesome. how many ninja you know can change bodies
 

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Summons do not require it since you only need blood to make the summon
 

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Hiruzen was aware of Orochimaru's body switching. He chose a proper punishment and struck him with something that not even body switching would solve. Like this he protected the village and the world. This lead to Orochimaru's defeat under Sasuke. If he had his arms, and took over Sasuke, the village would have been in big danger.
 
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