[VS] (Vote)EMS Madara vs Base Hashirama

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I must suck at reading this manga because I don't remember reading that. Sage mode has been used by none Senju's hasn't it? Animals, Juugo's clan, Kabuto, and Jiraiya. The idea that Uchiha can't use Sage Mode doesn't make much sense when Sasuke an Uchiha is using a form of sage mode.

Well it wasn't meant to be taken literal. It was just my personal observation from the manga. CM is not perfect sage mode and everyone on that list you mentioned as an incomplete form or gained it from abnormal means.

Though it can't, due to the fact Hashirama did things only to counter Madara =].

Nice fapboy observation. Even when Hashirama was using SM with Mokujin. I'm saying it's a stalemate as a courtesy.
 

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Nice fapboy observation. Even when Hashirama was using SM with Mokujin. I'm saying it's a stalemate as a courtesy.

Only problem with that is when SM is used with Mokuton it increases the size of the statues. Unless you have evidence of the mokujin getting stronger. So you would be a fapboy for saying its a stalemate?

Madara didn't even know about the buddha... Hashirama wasn't surprised about the PS.. Madara claimed to be superior to Hashirama due to Kurama + PS. Which Hashirama countered by going into Sage mode.. Hence why logic says Hashirama > EMS Madara.
 

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Well lets see base Hashirama was matching up with or defeating ems madara with kurama 100% until he fused perfect susanoo and Kurama. Base Hashirama has a wood summoning that's as big ass 100% kurama and perfect susanoo. It's pretty clear base Hashirama>ems madara
 

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Well it wasn't meant to be taken literal. It was just my personal observation from the manga. CM is not perfect sage mode and everyone on that list you mentioned as an incomplete form or gained it from abnormal means.

I suppose I understand. Only three people in this manga have a perfect sage mode and they either have Senju or Uzumaki DNA. Then there is Orochimaru needing a strong body and zetsu reacting to it.
 

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The only way madara is able to fight equally with hashirama is due to having kurama,without kurama hashirama beats madara very easily,he doesn't even need sage mode.
 
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