[Discussion] Vista vs Ace

[Uzumaki Macho]

Who do you think is stronger? I personally think Vista wins mid-high diff.

 

[LastGREATEST]

Vista has haki right?

 

[scorezor]

Ace wins , he has haki.

 

[Ricardo]

Windows Vista wins.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Vista has haki right?

Yes .

 

[Arian]

windows xp solos vista NEG DIFF

XD

 

[Fair Game]

I dont even know who Vista is.

 

[jiraiya lives]

vista high diff

 

[puni]

I dont even know who Vista is.

He was commander of WB 5th division.
OT:Ace wins high diff.

 

[Hexuze]

Ace high-diff. People assume that he doesn't have haki for some reason, which I find it to be odd. Even f*cking Tashigi has haki & besides Ace traveled to the NW (to Wano).

 

[Anduril]

Ace wins High diff.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I think some of you are underestimating Vista. Vista, Marco, and Jozu individually fought against an admiral level fighter(yonko level in Vista's case) and performed pretty well.

 

[Hexuze]

I think some of you are underestimating Vista. Vista, Marco, and Jozu individually fought against an admiral level fighter(yonko level in Vista's case) and performed pretty well.

>Mihawk wasn't paying attention to Vista. He was focused on Luffy.
>Jozu got low-diff'd after catching Kuzan off-guard

Only Marco had performed on par with an admiral. I think you're being biased here because of your hate towards how overrated Ace is. Vista & Jozu were high/mid. tier of VA level, whereas Mihawk & Kuzan are high tier of Admiral level. There's quite a huge difference between the two.

 

[Souji]

Vista has little to no range attacks to take care of Ace. If Ace can keep the distance up, he wins.

However, if it's close range, Vista's Haki was enough to irritate Sakazuki, so it would probably do more damage against Ace. It might go to Vista then, but we'd have to see if he can tank MM attacks.

And Oda's stated the WB Commanders are all around the same level. So calling Jozu and Vista a mid VA fighter is selling them short.

 

[Hexuze]

Vista has little to no range attacks to take care of Ace. If Ace can keep the distance up, he wins.

However, if it's close range, Vista's Haki was enough to irritate Sakazuki, so it would probably do more damage against Ace. It might go to Vista then, but we'd have to see if he can tank MM attacks.

And Oda's stated the WB Commanders are all around the same level. So calling Jozu and Vista a mid VA fighter is selling them short.

I don't recall Oda saying that the commanders are around the same level in strength. He just said they're the same rank, all same then proceeded to state the the division number doesn't indicate strength. Placing Vista/Jozu in the mid/high tier of VA level is appropriate seeing how they were no match for people in the admiral tier (Mihawk/Kuzan). I.E. Kuzan is caught off-guard and gets a direct hit from Jozu while suffering small injuries but when Jozu wasn't paying attention, he lost an arm.

 

[Bogard]

Vista mid difficulty. He is faster and stronger than Ace and possess high level of swordsmanship and haki. Kinemon can cut fire, it should not be a problem for a swordsman on Vista's caliber who could hurt even magma Akainu, something Ace couldn't accomplish(and got burnt in one contact)

 

[Fireplay]

We all know damn well that OP hates Ace and thinks he is "overrated".

This thread is irrelevant.
But just to contribute to this... i have no idea who wins. Im leaning towards Vista high-diff though.

 

[Olorin]

Lalala Admiral>Marco>Ace>Jozu>Vista lalala

 

[Aømine]

>Mihawk wasn't paying attention to Vista. He was focused on Luffy.
>Jozu got low-diff'd after catching Kuzan off-guard

Only Marco had performed on par with an admiral. I think you're being biased here because of your hate towards how overrated Ace is. Vista & Jozu were high/mid. tier of VA level, whereas Mihawk & Kuzan are high tier of Admiral level. There's quite a huge difference between the two.

because the most people in this section are retards and doesn't know anything about OP besides spamming my fav solo everything.
ace obviously should had haki, but this was what pissed me of in the MF arc that Oda left something unexplained and moved on and Ace ended just as a character to push Luffy into a new level, which pissed me of, since Ace was a really great character with alooooot potential.

 

[Olorin]

because the most people in this section are retards and doesn't know anything about OP besides spamming my fav solo everything.
ace obviously should had haki, but this was what pissed me of in the MF arc that Oda left something unexplained and moved on and Ace ended just as a character to push Luffy into a new level, which pissed me of, since Ace was a really great character with alooooot potential.

Ace dying didn't bother me, to the contrary imo it's (for lack of a better word atm) the best moment of OP, or at least the one that hits you the hardest.

What I do have a problem with is Haki portrayal pre TS (mainly MF) bynportrayal it would be a "manga fact" that Vergo has stronger Haki than WB+Admirals+WB Commanders+Sichibukai+Shanks combined ... it's the biggest inconsistency in OP