[Discussion] Violence is never the answer

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That's what we get taught as a society from a young age by the very people who thrive on it.

The reality is if words fail, violence is the way to get what you want, that's how countries survive, the US won't be saying to the Middle East: "Oh, you won't give us oil? That sucks for us, have a nice day."

No, violence have historically always been the greatest ally of man.
It has always been the easiest way to get what you want.

Violence have always been the answer.
 
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Nope.
Word manipulation is the greatest ally of human.
 

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And why would I believe someone with a Hisoka set?
 

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Lol you're laughable VIOLENCE IS NEVER THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T LIVE TO DIE!!!!!!
 

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War is the Answer
this is reality whether u like it or not u have to accept it
 

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I don't agree with violence either but sometimes it is required.
Justice is merely violence in disguise. Break a law and resist getting arrested if you don't believe me. You'll see the true face of the law and of justice.
 

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I don't agree with violence either but sometimes it is required.

That's right, sometimes it is required. Be honest, if you had a gun and saw me irl right now you know you'd do it.

Then you would continue *****ing in denial about how guns kill people and should be taken away.
 

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Justice is merely violence in disguise. Break a law and resist getting arrested if you don't believe me. You'll see the true face of the law and of justice.

There is good justice that doesn't involve violence at all, but the whole idea of justice is up to everyones own interpretations.

Bold: because countries, primarily America likes to instill fear into people to make sure they understand the law.
 

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That's right, sometimes it is required. Be honest, if you had a gun and saw me irl right now you know you'd do it.

Then you would continue *****ing in denial about how guns kill people and should be taken away.

Nah, if I saw you irl, I would just tell you to **** off. You're not even worth killing tbh
 

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There is good justice that doesn't involve violence at all, but the whole idea of justice is up to everyones own interpretations.

Bold: because countries, primarily America likes to instill fear into people to make sure they understand the law.
Are there any examples of this so-called non-violent justice?
 

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So then why is not terrorists get what they want. You mentioned middle east, the whole holy war shit of terries is about kicking west out of their land by making people weild guns how is that going?

The reality is when weak countries resort to use violence they keep getting rekt and remain shithole instead of getting better.

People who ask citizens to riot against their own government are mostly bunch of thugs or commies who are taking advantage of the situation, people who push for war to get things done have things to benefit from it at the cost of lives of citizens.
 

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Are there any examples of this so-called non-violent justice?

Martin Luther King Jr.

Gandhi

Buddha

Plenty of examples of people who started peaceful movements which lead to significant change.
 

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War is the Answer
this is reality whether u like it or not u have to accept it

War is only the answer because in our current capitalistic society, there are people who benefit economically from it. It's called war profiteering. Few win and everyone else loses.

That's why the system needs to change.
 

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Martin Luther King Jr.

Gandhi

Buddha

Plenty of examples of people who started peaceful movements which lead to significant change.
Any form of justice is maintained with violence and violence is a privledge reserved to those with power. What Gandhi, MLK and the others did was merely pleading. They managed to win over the people who are in the words of Thomas Jefferson "the only prudent repository of power".

The people have more power than the government and institutions who exist to serve them. However people are stupid so the government and those institutions can get away with alot of crap because knowledge is the highest form of power. Think of it like a dumb king(the people) who's controlled by his advisor(the establishment) and is easily fooled.
 

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Am I the only one noticed Op's sig and 2nd post ava is the same? :p

OT: yes violence is not the best solution.
 

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Am I the only one noticed Op's sig and 2nd post ava is the same? :p

OT: yes violence is not the best solution.
As I said before, violence is a privledge reserved to those with power.

If you commit violence, you get punished.
If the establishment commits violence they get..oh wait.

Exactly.

Who punished the US for killing millions in Iraq?
Who punished the cop who shot four bullets in a man who reached for his ID?
Who punished the criminal justice system who makes a profit of people's misery?
Who punished the warmongering politicians?

You can't be violent because they say so, the lawmakers and those who's job it is to uphold it are exempt from it. Why? Because they can.
 
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