Violence-How effective is it?

[mcchikeneater]

there is no way Violence can solve anything...........

You name one place and situation and i will tell you what you should do....

Fascist dictator killing millions of Jews and in control of a massive army trying to take over the world.

 

[Enemy]

Fascist dictator killing millions of Jews and in control of a massive army trying to take over the world.

Send him a picture of a unicorn and a rainbow.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Fascist dictator killing millions of Jews and in control of a massive army trying to take over the world.

Damn beat me to it....

USSR trying to unite the whole world under communist control forcibly. We used violence as a means to prevent war and oppression. That violence ended up stopping violence with very little violence. (Tanks and nukes = violence)

Depending on your definition of violence..... Trying to get me as a child to listen to you without spanking me. Also if you use rewards to stop me I will figure that out and then abuse it to force you to give me what I want all of the time or I will do XXXX (I did it to teachers all the time and they never learned XD dumb teachers beat by a child).

 

[uzumaki antonia]

Send him a picture of a unicorn and a rainbow.

this one! this one! It works

 

[Darthlawsuit]

this one! this one! It works

Make me foam at the mouth and punt the nearest kitten/small dog.

 

[mcchikeneater]

Damn beat me to it....

USSR trying to unite the whole world under communist control forcibly. We used violence as a means to prevent war and oppression. That violence ended up stopping violence with very little violence. (Tanks and nukes = violence)

Evil Emperor using a massive space station to blow up planets as part of his plan for galactic supremacy.

 

[ZK]

Damn beat me to it....

USSR trying to unite the whole world under communist control forcibly. We used violence as a means to prevent war and oppression. That violence ended up stopping violence with very little violence. (Tanks and nukes = violence)

Depending on your definition of violence..... Trying to get me as a child to listen to you without spanking me. Also if you use rewards to stop me I will figure that out and then abuse it to force you to give me what I want all of the time or I will do XXXX (I did it to teachers all the time and they never learned XD dumb teachers beat by a child).

You know, Communism would work perfectly if the entire world used the system O_O
The whole problem with Communism was the emigration it caused.
*prevented wa and oppression* Nah, you just traded it for your entire economy.
Capitalism, smfh.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

You know, Communism would work perfectly if the entire world used the system O_O
The whole problem with Communism was the emigration it caused.
*prevented wa and oppression* Nah, you just traded it for your entire economy.
Capitalism, smfh.

Riiiiight. That is why the politicians and leaders of the party were rich and everyone else was poor. It was suppose to be perfect but the people in control found out they could make it work like feudalism.... Except party members were the Nobles and everyone else was the serfs.

I would never want to be told where I have to work or how I have to work.

Also you know this thing called the internet you are using? It evolved in the free-market system so you yourself are benefiting off of the free market system. Communism would have never made the internet because it was unnecessary.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

On a more serious note, violence, despite it being effective, can easily be dragged on to being more serious and dangerous. I think that fighting is ok, as long as you keep calm and not rage on anyone. Nobody likes a rager.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

On a more serious note, violence, despite it being effective, can easily be dragged on to being more serious and dangerous. I think that fighting is ok, as long as you keep calm and not rage on anyone. Nobody likes a rager.

Yes. That is why you cannot allow yourself to give in to your rage. You must take all things in moderation and never allow yourself to go too far to one side or the other.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Fascist dictator killing millions of Jews and in control of a massive army trying to take over the world.

Superpowers not being butt buddies with him despite rumors of his prejudice many years before the holocaust. Using massive sanctions etc.


Or travelling back 10-15 years prior to WW2, allowing free trade between all countries, irrespective of whether they were colonies or not.

Contrary to popular belief, the 3rd Reich came to power because of economic reasons, it was only later that Germans realized Hitler wanted to kill the Jews/slavs.

I'm a history enthusiast btw.

 

[mcchikeneater]

Superpowers not being butt buddies with him despite rumors of his prejudice many years before the holocaust. Using massive sanctions etc.


Or travelling back 10-15 years prior to WW2, allowing free trade between all countries, irrespective of whether they were colonies or not.

Contrary to popular belief, the 3rd Reich came to power because of economic reasons, it was only later that Germans realized Hitler wanted to kill the Jews/slavs.

I'm a history enthusiast btw.

Me to, I love history, and my mom was a history teacher, though now shes back in school herself so she can get her masters to teach at college level.

I wasn't talking about how he came into power, just the fact that he was in power and violence was the best way to get him out of power. He wasn't exactly the type to stop if asked nicely.

It is fascinating history though, how he got Germans to believe the Jews really were the cause for their economic depression, through brilliant use of propaganda, and the ability to make one hell of a speech. He was a lunatic, but the guy was no idiot. He knew exactly what people needed to hear to gain power.

 

[ZK]

Riiiiight. That is why the politicians and leaders of the party were rich and everyone else was poor. It was suppose to be perfect but the people in control found out they could make it work like feudalism.... Except party members were the Nobles and everyone else was the serfs.

I would never want to be told where I have to work or how I have to work.

Also you know this thing called the internet you are using? It evolved in the free-market system so you yourself are benefiting off of the free market system. Communism would have never made the internet because it was unnecessary.

No, no, NO. What you're talking about is LENINISM. Leninism is not the same as COMMUNISM.

 

[Crocodile]

It's pretty effective as long as you kill the person.

And for the people posting in this thread, stop being /p/ fags.

 

[Gutsy]

Fascist dictator killing millions of Jews and in control of a massive army trying to take over the world.

LOL too easy instead of trying to assasinate him/her or make a war against that person you just stand by and let the person sail in their own sea in their country until the people in the nation riot and let them do whatever they want to do....


See if President Bush didn't attack Bin Laden his own people would at some point riot at him and possible his own army too...

 

[Hawker]

LOL too easy instead of trying to assasinate him/her or make a war against that person you just stand by and let the person sail in their own sea in their country until the people in the nation riot and let them do whatever they want to do....


See if President Bush didn't attack Bin Laden his own people would at some point riot at him and possible his own army too...

lol the point is there would be violence involved by those so called "own people" you're talking about. So you're contradicting yourself.

 

[mcchikeneater]

LOL too easy instead of trying to assasinate him/her or make a war against that person you just stand by and let the person sail in their own sea in their country until the people in the nation riot and let them do whatever they want to do....


See if President Bush didn't attack Bin Laden his own people would at some point riot at him and possible his own army too...

These people weren't just doing stuff in their own countries they were bringing war to people across the world. Hitler had millions following him that all believed he was right, and there was little chance of them revolting against him. He wasn't just sailing his own sea, he was trying to take over the world. Bin Laden didn't have that level of following, but he still had support who believed him and his ideals. So your solution is rather than fight back, just sit and let evil people take over the world because eventually someone will stop listening to them? Thats still violence, allowing others to get hurt while you sit back and watch because it isn't you being hurt, and its just relying on others to do the violent part so you don't have to get your hands dirty.

Hippy optimism is so stupid.

 

[Nyanmaru]

Yes. If you can't take away the remote from your brother's hand.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Me to, I love history, and my mom was a history teacher, though now shes back in school herself so she can get her masters to teach at college level.

I wasn't talking about how he came into power, just the fact that he was in power and violence was the best way to get him out of power. He wasn't exactly the type to stop if asked nicely.

It is fascinating history though, how he got Germans to believe the Jews really were the cause for their economic depression, through brilliant use of propaganda, and the ability to make one hell of a speech. He was a lunatic, but the guy was no idiot. He knew exactly what people needed to hear to gain power.

That's cool, man which grade did she teach?

Well my point is that if certain measures had been taken before hand, catastrophic violence could have been averted, or at the very least the unprecedented scale of it.

Yeah i totally agree about Hitler being smart. Given the conditions at the time, its actually not surprising that Germans voted for him. If you read

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: you'll see he was actually very loyal to the German people and what he thought were their interests. Not surprisingly, the book is banned in Germany. Seems like the whole hatred for the jews came from his childhood in Vienna, where he leveled all kinds of accusations on the Jewish community living there. Fascinating history, indeed and the amazing thing is like you said if you listen to his speeches he does know how to get people to support and rally behind him. The few times i've listened to him, i'd be lying if i said i was'nt impressed.

 

[Nikohru]

Never helps but some things are inevitable :kaito: