Villains taking the easy way out rather than atoning for their sins

[Genetics]

What is with Kishi's way of making the villains take the easy way out rather than atone for their sins?

-Nagato: Instead of Nagato reviving the villagers, he would have been much more helpful in the 4th shinobi war. Not to mention the Rinnegan would still be in his hands and Konan would not have to fight Tobi alone

-Obito: instead of atoning for his sins slowly, he attempts to cast rinne tensei (which is the quick and easy way out of everything he's done)

-Toneri: Earth could have used his assistance (against the impending Kinshiki and Momo danger) instead he decides to make sure the moon doesn't touch Earth again and isolates himself after nearly destroying the planet

 

[Dantee]

It makes it easier for a lazy manga artist.

 

[Swagdara Uchiha]

If Kishi does that then he has to keep the characters and do more work. Getting rid of them is easier. Hence Kishi forgetting about Toneri and not mentioning him at all. AKA Lazy

 

[Sithis]

That first part makes no sense. If Nagato did not revive the villagers there wouldn't have been a war, since a majority of the ninjas were from Konoha.

 

[Gerkak]

It makes it easier for a lazy manga artist.

This^^^^

 

[Floydical]

Nagato entrusted his will to Naruto. Not only that, but he killed so many that it was the best way for him to redeem himself. If he didn't use that technique right at that time, none of those deaths could have been reversed.

Obito was un-redeemable. He realized this himself and utterly committed himself to death. Either he was going to succeed and supplant Madara or die. Once he was converted, he was also committed to dying but doing all he could to help defeat Kaguya before that.

I don't care about movie characters.

 

[Genetics]

Nagato entrusted his will to Naruto. Not only that, but he killed so many that it was the best way for him to redeem himself. If he didn't use that technique right at that time, none of those deaths could have been reversed.

Obito was able to revive Madara (who died decades ago).

 

[Seventh Sama]

Then kakashi wouldn't have been revived. If kakashi wasn't revived, team 7 wouldn't have beaten kaguya.
It's also debatable that obito can take on 6pop.


Obito tried that but he got interrupted by BZ and naruto would've been killed by the ash bone aimed at him.

Toneri doesn't have tenseigan anymore. He'd be as useful as tenten.

 

[Mellow]

It makes it easier for a lazy manga artist.

One shotted

 

[Floydical]

Obito was able to revive Madara (who died decades ago).

Nagato was unable to revive Jiraiya who died a short time before the invasion. What this means is that Madara's case was special, or Obito had more capability than Nagato did. Theoretically, Obito was only able to Revive Madara because he was already in Edo form and therefore his soul was close by. Not only that, but since Madara had a pseudo body in the form of an edo, the jutsu was able to transform that into a real body rather than having to create a new one.

 

[Dantee]

One shotted

Totsuka blitz style ofc.

 

[JStar King]

It makes it easier for a lazy manga artist.

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[Angelic.]

they wanted everyone to move on from their mistakes. they are helping by reviving or protecting ppl. toneri keeping the moon away is a good thing lol

 

[Devlious]

Hey, why didn't Nagato just say "Konan give Naruto my eyes."
Would've made Sasuke fans maf

 

[Genetics]

Nagato was unable to revive Jiraiya who died a short time before the invasion. What this means is that Madara's case was special, or Obito had more capability than Nagato did. Theoretically, Obito was only able to Revive Madara because he was already in Edo form and therefore his soul was close by. Not only that, but since Madara had a pseudo body in the form of an edo, the jutsu was able to transform that into a real body rather than having to create a new one.

Before Madara disconnected himself from the Gedo Mazo, he expected to be revived by rinne tensei through Nagato/Obito and didnt even make edo tensei part of his plan. This implies that Madara believed nagato/obito could have revived him without any involvement of edo tensi

Edit: to be honest, Jiraiya technically was revived, but his body was in the bottom of the ocean so he just got revived and died due to the pressure of the water.

 

[Genetics]

It makes it easier for a lazy manga artist.

Just saying the story could have been written much better if this 'lazy manga artist' did not give villains a cheap exit

 

[Floydical]

Before Madara disconnected himself from the Gedo Mazo, he expected to be revived by rinne tensei through Nagato/Obito and didnt even make edo tensei part of his plan. This implies that Madara believed nagato/obito could have revived him without any involvement of edo tensi

Edit: to be honest, Jiraiya technically was revived, but his body was in the bottom of the ocean so he just got revived and died due to the pressure of the water.

I agree 100% that Edo Tensei was not a part of Madara's plan. My only way to explain away something of that magnitude is that by harnessing the power of the Juubi, the caster of Rinne Tensei could bypass the time limit aspect. Its either that, or the jutsu was rectonned to not have a time limit. I suppose that is very much possible, but it would seriously take away from the logic of the series.

 

[Dantee]

Just saying the story could have been written much better if this 'lazy manga artist' did not give villains a cheap exit

I know but that's Kishi. Just look at Gaiden xd

 

[Genetics]

Then kakashi wouldn't have been revived. If kakashi wasn't revived, team 7 wouldn't have beaten kaguya.
It's also debatable that obito can take on 6pop.


Obito tried that but he got interrupted by BZ and naruto would've been killed by the ash bone aimed at him.

Toneri doesn't have tenseigan anymore. He'd be as useful as tenten.

There's a chance that Kaguya would not have even been resurrected if Nagato & Konan dealt with Obito sooner. The only problem is BZ, but without Obito, BZ has no pawns left

I think the databook hypes Toneri & Madara as equals, and we all know how hard blind Madara wrecked the allience =P