The same seal-less Tsunade which effortlessly carried Bunta's gigantic sword and stabbed Manda with it? [
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she wasn't seal-less [
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Lel your point? Lifting and striking don't correlate, but I'll agree that she still had the benefits from her seal.
Tsunade being a natural 5 in strength means jack shit. I mean, Gai is a natural 5 in strength yet tanking his hit isn't anything special when we are discussing V2 B and KN4 and KN6. Either way, if all Tsunade can do is peel Orochimaru's face off with a direct hit to the face (when a full power hit from her, pre or post timeskip, would be dangerous to get hit by) then that makes her hit just as strong as KN1, who isn't even anywhere near as strong as V1 B let alone full power V2 B.
Unless you want to argue that too? :lol
Hirudora that hit him is unquantifiable so it's irrelevant. Unless you can find a way of saying how strong it was, or how much it was weakened, you can't use it to determine how durable he is. @bold, don't be an idiot. You know cutting and blunt force are totally different in NV. Hence Kisame is pierced by a thrown kunai [
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, even though the ribs are one of the most vulnerable and easily dislocated/broken bones in the body (apart from really small bones). Roflmao @underlined Please don't tell me this is your line of thinking.
So now Samehada doesn't transfer the momentum to Kisame? B plowed through Samehada AND Kisame with his momentum, except Kisame only had his flesh and skin taken away with not one broken bone. Leftover energy my ass.
Unless it's power dropped by over a 20th of what it can already do I have no reason to dismiss this feat considering it's better than Orochimaru's feats, which are pretty much nonexistent and/or irrelevant. Samehada being able to block swords while Kisame can't only means that it is pound for pound more durable than Kisame. And they are around the same size. So do the math. :lol Then we have the fact that Samehada blocks Lariat but only gets a hole in it while Kisame has his chest blown out despite not being the one taking the direct hit. So it's pretty obvious which is more durable.
Kisame+Samehada>>Orochimaru in durability.
Plowing through a shield more durable than Kisame and by extension Orochimaru himself, leaving a hole in it and then blowing Kisame's chest out is a better feat than cutting Orochimaru in half.
The argument just started, it's way too early for this nonsense.
-Energy is applied to Samehada.
-Samehada absorbs what it can.
-The rest hits Kisame.
If B didn't apply enough energy then none would hit Kisame and it all would've been absorbed by the sword. Not even sure what the hell you are saying with anything in the last few sentences but either you are saying something that makes no sense or you are pretty much saying the same thing I'm saying. "lol the momentum waz transferred" isn't an explanation for why Kisame got hurt even though he had a shield on it. Him not having a broken bone is irrelevant since the damage B did to them collectively surpasses anything KN4 has ever done.
Already addressed. Your point makes no sense because Naruto's attack was one of blunt force. It was not a penetrative attack, it merely had so much speed and power that it seemed like one. So it does, because Kisame would get bisected by that too, and so would Samehada.
HAHAHAHA Tell me another joke pal. I think that this is probably the stupidest thing you've said this entire argument.
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KN4 has claws. That is a cutting attack. Cutting attacks cut. If it was blunt force Orochimaru would've been mangled and sent flying backwards. He wouldn't have been cleanly cut through like he was in the Manga. So no, nothing supports your point here. Cutting Orochimaru in half doesn't let him cut through Samehada and Kisame.
Again, it was BLUNT FORCE. Or do penetrative attacks create massive blasts like the one shown when Oro lost his arm? The shockwave being created from a stand-still position with the swipe of one hand shits on any power feat Bee could dream of in V2. Fact.
This is the only one I'll agree was a blunt force attack, but sadly it's irrelevant since taking off Orochimaru's arm doesn't make him stronger than someone who can hit Samehada, put a hole in it and still damage Kisame. Both of who are more durable than Orochimaru let alone together.
And his best feat with his shockwave is clearing 10,000 fodder snakes. Not sure how this means that KN4 even wins let alone shits like you are ridiculously claiming. :lol
He did know of the v1 shroud. A tailless v1 shroud saved the alliance from Tenpenchii, massive katon's, etc. Surely if he knew the v2 was entirely different and was still surprised by it negging the v2 then it's some next level shit. Anyways, assuming he was on the outskirts of the TBB explosion, it still wouldn't matter because the Kyuubi's v2 would be stronger than any other Biju's v2 10/10 times since it has the most powerful chakra, by far. Not to mention its corrosive, something which Bee doesn't have. Being corrosive means he breaks you down, there's no defence to that. Touching Naruto is a terrible idea in the first place.
-No, he knew of it's existence. Not how tough it was.
-A tailless V1 shroud composed of BM Naruto and Kurama's chakra, matched to each person's signature, tanked all of that. Not sure why we are even mentioning this here when it's feats are far above the regular cloaks. Far far far above.
-So? It being more durable than B in KN6 form proves what exactly? :lol That B can't hurt him? Cause it doesn't. That he lasts longer? Because it doesn't.
Not sure if I should take the bold seriously. His chakra's corrosive property's best feat is burning Orochimaru's snakes. Call me when it can do the same to V2 B's cloak. Being corrosive means that it can break you down if strong enough, not that it automatically breaks you down no matter what. And even then those are just the chakra arms. Orochimaru hit KN4 in the face and nothing happened.
-Feats exponentially stronger than KN4's, which already shit on Bee's, means it's a no contest.
-Far stronger chakra, thus more durable and more corrosive.
-Would never get to 'who falls first' because Naruto's strength overwhelms Bee in KN4, let alone KN6. Naruto bisects Oro from stand-still. Naruto creates insane shockwave from stand-still. Bee's feats pale in comparison and his feats are all with tremendous momentum behind them.
-Except KN4 doesn't have those feats.
-Irrelevant. KN4/KN6 have less tails than B, so stronger chakra isn't an argument you can use on it's own to prove superiority, and corrosive chakra is 100% irrelevant so don't mention it again.
-KN4 can't overpower Killer B. Naruto bisects Orochimaru with a cutting attack, an irrelevant feat. He creates a massive shockwave with his attack yet the best feat he has is clearing 10,000 fodder snakes.
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itch slaps KN4, might beat KN6. Anyone raping, or rather KN f
ucking 4 is an idiotic conclusion to come to.
