V2 ay still faster

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7th gate guy is obviously faster
It's no longer a question. He shatters the ground from sheer speed and foot power.

so does 5th gate lee. Does that mean hes faster?
 

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OK so tell me why did ay need more speed against madara? Provide proof with answer

What did v1 ay need more speed? idk maybe V2 is more chakra consuming, and it was convenient because the tsuchikage can't really move all that well considering his back problems.
 

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Gaara saw Ay beyond his V2 speed when Onoki lightened him to go fast enough to attack Madara I believe
 

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Gaara saw Ay beyond his V2 speed when Onoki lightened him to go fast enough to attack Madara I believe

feats to suggest this Ay is faster?


it was convenient for Ohnoki to ride Ay given his back problems. Also The ability to make Ay's attack stronger is another convenience bonus
 

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What did v1 ay need more speed? idk maybe V2 is more chakra consuming, and it was convenient because the tsuchikage can't really move all that well considering his back problems.
Assumptions I see..tsuchikage never said ay I need you to move around or anything like that
 

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Assumptions I see..tsuchikage never said ay I need you to move around or anything like that

assumptions aside, its clear that Ohnoki riding Ay was more advantageous than them being separate, given the reasons stated above
 

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feats to suggest this Ay is faster?


it was convenient for Ohnoki to ride Ay given his back problems. Also The ability to make Ay's attack stronger is another convenience bonus

Ay needed the speed to get the power to crush his guard. [ ]
If Onoki lightening his body [ ] to the point that his speed would be enough to get through Madara's guard then I don't see why this speed would atleast be on par with V2 if not above.
 

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You guys are overhyping it. It was Gais taijutsu that pushed Madara back not his speed.
 

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Well gaara said movements not speed, don't know if people are illogical or what.
 

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Ay needed the speed to get the power to crush his guard. [ ]
If Onoki lightening his body [ ] to the point that his speed would be enough to get through Madara's guard then I don't see why this speed would atleast be on par with V2 if not above.

notice he made him heavy at the last minute? Why wasn't his movement almost teleportation like earlier?
 

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To be honest..I won't jump in and start saying Gai is faster but you can't blame people for saying so
Take a loot at this


That's the fastest shinobi alive

And then, you have Gai doing this

To be honest it is debatable

maybe minato got slowed because he tried to add senjutsu in his rasengan the moment he landed in front of madara
 

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notice he made him heavy at the last minute? Why wasn't his movement almost teleportation like earlier?

You have no proof...why would ay say he needs more speed when he can go V2...you've failed to answer that..him knowing he can teleport saw he needed much more speed..it's obvious he knew the tsuchikage would make him faster...he was getting owned by madara and still didn't use what was best for him..that's what you're trying to say which makes no sense
 
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