V1 Naruto vs Akatsuki

KidGamer65

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tbh i dont itachi winning either, depending on how many cloack clones naruto can make, and how long he can maintain them.

Are we to assume its like kcm where its 14?

or is it like bm where his limit is 4.

then we have to acknowledge the possibility of throwing frs, which he may or may not be able to do.

can he use his tails to make individual rasengans?

does he have danger sensing now?
do we scale up his 3 tail feats for the addition of extra tails?


to little is known for me to make a good judgement call.

His limit would probably be closer to KCM, but more since Kurama is friendly and he's not using a lot of Kurama's chakra to use the Avatar like he does in BM. But Naruto might not be able to make cloaked clones. His clone was reeling in pain from Naruto using 2 tails let alone all 9, but that might be because of his relationship with Kurama at the time.

-He can throw FRS. He can't throw it in Base due to not having the physical strength necessary. Cloaked mode should give him that.
-Yes, he can.
-Danger Sensing? If you are talking about Negative Emotions Sensing then he might get that with this mode. Doesn't really matter though, just like the upscaling for KN3's feats doesn't matter. Whatever boost in physical ability he gets, in strength and durability it won't be great enough to let him defend against or defeat Susanoo nor will the enhanced speed matter unless he's as fast as KCM Naruto, which he won't be.
 

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But it didn't stop it, it continued rotating and flying so wouldnt it just be super counter effective?

It turned it to Amaterasu flame, which Itachi can put out or tank with Susanoo. Fire eats wind and gets larger.
 

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Naruto's clones should be fine now that he's friendly with Kurama. None of the alliance he gave the cloaks to noticed any pain or heat.
 

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unlimited chakra naruto win
 

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Lol when Naruto used the v1 cloak and went 2 tails for the first time, his shadow clone poofed. Sometime during the fight against Deidara. So no, there should be no reason why Naruto's clones can use the cloak unless the only reason they were unable to do so is because Kurama wasn't on good terms with Naruto, but I don't see how that makes sense.

Because changes in the originals chakra signature will cause the chakra of the clones to resonate similarly. Example, when Naruto went fox mode on Pain, the originals chakra was also disturbed and the clones he left at Mt. Myoboku dispersed. He's allies with Kurama now so the clones would no longer be under its negative influence and driven berserk by the chakra. Its basically like I told FTG V2. If Naruto makes a shadow clone, can that clone enter KCM too? If you think yes then why couldn't it just go V1 too instead?

-Naruto still can't get past Susanoo.
-His speed isn't going to be anything Itachi can't handle, offensively or defensively.
-Susanoo tanks FRS. Chou FRS gets lit on fire.

Eventually Susanoo mows him down.

I'm curious, how many FRS do you think it would take to destroy Itachi's V4? His speed isn't why he'd win anyway. Think about it this way, We saw how a clone of Naruto countered Jukai Kotan when Kurama lent him a bit of his chakra. In this case he has free access, so dozens of FRS would be flying from all sorts of directions. Itachi can light them all on fire? If he does then Naruto keeps his distance and rinses and repeats. How long would he last doing that? Certainly not even close to how long Naruto can keep bombarding him. Thats a way I think he can win at least.

Kisame? Once WD is set up Kisame can literally suck up his entire cloak and then some in a matter of seconds. FRS, Rasengan and all that good stuff is useless due to Samehada, and a blitz is never going to happen. The cloak can't overload him either since he can absorb V2 B's full transformation in that mode.

Well again, speed isn't why Naruto wins. He wins by thrashing/overwhelming them with constant attacks. When WD comes out Naruto makes clones and all go different directions, not to mention he has the boss toads like Ma + Pa, Gamabunta, etc. Also should Kisame severely injure him, he can just heal like Kisame can. Pretty sure he healed the hole Sasuke put in his shoulder in V1 back at VOTE1.
 

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Because changes in the originals chakra signature will cause the chakra of the clones to resonate similarly. Example, when Naruto went fox mode on Pain, the originals chakra was also disturbed and the clones he left at Mt. Myoboku dispersed. He's allies with Kurama now so the clones would no longer be under its negative influence and driven berserk by the chakra. Its basically like I told FTG V2. If Naruto makes a shadow clone, can that clone enter KCM too? If you think yes then why couldn't it just go V1 too instead?

Then I'll agree he can make clones.


I'm curious, how many FRS do you think it would take to destroy Itachi's V4? His speed isn't why he'd win anyway. Think about it this way, We saw how a clone of Naruto countered Jukai Kotan when Kurama lent him a bit of his chakra. In this case he has free access, so dozens of FRS would be flying from all sorts of directions. Itachi can light them all on fire? If he does then Naruto keeps his distance and rinses and repeats. How long would he last doing that? Certainly not even close to how long Naruto can keep bombarding him. Thats a way I think he can win at least.

You are going to need evidence of Naruto being able to use that many FRS at once. Kurama having free access is what lets him access Bijuu Mode. The amount of free chakra he can give him without making him transform isn't going to jump that high.



Well again, speed isn't why Naruto wins. He wins by thrashing/overwhelming them with constant attacks. When WD comes out Naruto makes clones and all go different directions, not to mention he has the boss toads like Ma + Pa, Gamabunta, etc. Also should Kisame severely injure him, he can just heal like Kisame can. Pretty sure he healed the hole Sasuke put in his shoulder in V1 back at VOTE1.

He can heal, but his healing is nowhere near Kisame's level nor does it matter since he needs Kurama's chakra to do that. If Kisame absorbs his cloak and then some he won't be able to heal. If Naruto calls out a bunch of clones then Kisame can just use GSB to take out the lot of them and hope that he hits the original. If he doesn't and Naruto escapes, he simply chases him down as the dome moves with him.
 
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