#Uzumaki

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Ashura had the JuubiJin's power but his body traits were divided in half between Uzumaki and Senju. Uzumaki life force and chakra chains come from the Gedo while Mokuton comes from the Juubi.

Both clans have potential to learn high level Sage Mode though, absorbing NE and having large chakra pools would be the common traits they share.
what you just said was a bit cringy.

first off, only Hashirama had mokuton and that was established because he trained sage mode in the sacred forest.

so saying Senjus have mokuton when really that isn't a heritage trait is wrong.

chakra chains on the otherhand are NOT learned but inherited. Senjus do not have this.

Senjus and Uzumaki only had 1 thing in common and that is lifeforce.

anyone can learn Sage mode dude. All they gotta do is find a teacher.

Sage mode isnt strictly a RS descendant thing. If it was, then damn I'd like to hear the theories about Kabuto and Oro and Jman being RS descendants or Senju relative.
 

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Their hair is nowhere near the same color.
It doesn't have to be, maroon is still a red colour but in a different shade
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what you just said was a bit cringy.

first off, only Hashirama had mokuton and that was established because he trained sage mode in the sacred forest.
Read the manga, only people to affect Mokuton are Naruto and Hashirama both of whom have Ashura's chakra. In addition the manga already made it clear Mokuton is the Juubi's KKG. Sage Mode had nothing to do with Hashi's ability to use the Juubi's power.

so saying Senjus have mokuton when really that isn't a heritage trait is wrong.
No it isn't because Senju are know as the clan that dwells in the forrest (forrest = trees), and no Uzumaki has been shown using the KKG.

chakra chains on the otherhand are NOT learned but inherited. Senjus do not have this.
I never said they were learned, I said Uzumaki inherited chakra chains due to having the Gedo traits while Senju inherited potential for Mokuton. The JuubiJin's power was inherited by Ashura and divided between both clans.

Senjus and Uzumaki only had 1 thing in common and that is lifeforce.
Wrong, manga said Uzumaki were known for their life force not the Senju. Why do you think Madara chose Nagato to use the Rinnegan ? Naruto's clan were known for their stamina and inability to die easily even Zetsu mentioned this.

anyone can learn Sage mode dude. All they gotta do is find a teacher.
Again wrong, Jiraiya couldn't use it without the frogs help, Orochimaru tried and destroyed his original body in the process, Kabuto learned it after transplanting some of Orochimaru's power into him and Minato admitted he sucked at using SM. Only Naruto and Hashirama have been able to naturally absorb it in large amounts without any side effects.

Sage mode isnt strictly a RS descendant thing. If it was, then damn I'd like to hear the theories about Kabuto and Oro and Jman being RS descendants or Senju relative.
People outside the Otsutsuki lineage can learn it but only Ashura's descendants have the body touse it at the highest level. No one has ever come close to Naruto or Hashirama's level of Sage Mode.
 
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well Hyuga clan has black hair...

Kaguya Hamura and Hagoromo didnt... where the hell were they from?

thats implied that Uzumaki is Hamura's descendants because of the whole Yin-Yang twin bro BS

we both know that Hagoromo branched out to Uchiha and Senju

Hamura was Hyuga and unknown

Uzumaki was in the mix as stated "distant blood relative" they couldve said distant cousins of Senju

Also the location in which the clan was was closer to the Hyuga and Senju and Uchiha were close to each other.

The glimpse that we saw from The Last episode that there was a portal to the moon and a war also went there means that the Hyuga came to earth as refugees of war or didnt wish to fight the war. maybe also be ambassadors for earth.
Either way, the portal was close to where the Hyuga clan was and in relation to geography, so was Uzumaki clan.

out of the 4 clans, only 3 were found in Konoha and the Uzumaki is the furthest thus was its own country/state.

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which means if they were truly a Senju branch, they should've at least been established or taken in by Konoha.

Hagoromo having red hair is moot as it merely means Hamura has red hair genes as well.

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this discussion is as stupid as me saying this Uzumaki has white hair therefore he is Hamura's descendant.

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explain their black hair.

BTW black hair.. senjus hyugas and uchihas have black hair but Hagoromo did not. nor Hamura.
they adopted?

poor thread
this belongs in the fanfic section
 

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Everybody is forgetting everybody in the freaking show said those who had red hair are uzumakis. Even the creator kishi said so too. No one ever said you had to have white hair to have the byakugan, they just said those who do have the byakugan eyes are decent from hagoromo and the same goes for uchihas. I mean literally the show and manga have said this
 
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It doesn't have to be, maroon is still a red colour but in a different shade
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Read the manga, only people to affect Mokuton are Naruto and Hashirama both of whom have Ashura's chakra. In addition the manga already made it clear Mokuton is the Juubi's KKG. Sage Mode had nothing to do with Hashi's ability to use the Juubi's power.



No it isn't because Senju are know as the clan that dwells in the forrest (forrest = trees), and no Uzumaki has been shown using the KKG.



I never said they were learned, I said Uzumaki inherited chakra chains due to having the Gedo traits while Senju inherited potential for Mokuton. The JuubiJin's power was inherited by Ashura and divided between both clans.



Wrong, manga said Uzumaki were known for their life force not the Senju. Why do you think Madara chose Nagato to use the Rinnegan ? Naruto's clan were known for their stamina and inability to die easily even Zetsu mentioned this.



Again wrong, Jiraiya couldn't use it without the frogs help, Orochimaru tried and destroyed his original body in the process, Kabuto learned it after transplanting some of Orochimaru's power into him and Minato admitted he sucked at using SM. Only Naruto and Hashirama have been able to naturally absorb it in large amounts without any side effects.



People outside the Otsutsuki lineage can learn it but only Ashura's descendants have the body touse it at the highest level. No one has ever come close to Naruto or Hashirama's level of Sage Mode.
That doesn't mean anything. I guess Gaara is Uzumaki too then. Or Sasori.
 

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Unlike Gaara the Uzumaki are actual descendants of Hagoromo and their hair was a sign of their strong life force which they inherited from him
Uzumaki are descendents of Ashura like Senju's are at best. The Uzumaki/Hagoromo theory was bunked long ago.
Why do you hate the Uzumaki though? I mean your red avi would go well with a Uzumaki. This should automatically make you one of us.
No his hair is brown.
 
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