Uzumaki origins.

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You never said anything to me about why you had a Minato Senju possibility. I didn't read every single post you made in this thread to other people, so if you said something to someone else then I didn't see it. Nothing in that other post had any use to me.

So no, I don't remember why you brought up a Minato Senju possibility.
I knew it , and that's a forum fact now , you need 10 posts to understand the 1st , and you forget in 40 posts (92-52=40 :) ).
The other possibility is that you didn't read , in that case who need to answer to a guy that doesn't listen.

What a useless discussion , thanks.
 
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I knew it , and that's a forum fact now , you need 10 posts to understand the 1st , and you forget in 40 posts (92-52=40 :) ).

What a useless discussion , thanks.
It's a forum fact that I don't understand incomplete posts. You heard it here first, folks.

And I also forget posts that weren't made to me. Learn something new every day.

I'm finished with this discussion now. I'm no longer interested in this pointless back and forth with you.
 

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There was a thousand years to spread the Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki/Hyuga lieneage along.

You shouldn't count out a possibility of Hamura also having Uzumaki because of incest issues. You have to also consider that the Hyuga have been incesting this whole time nonstop.

Plus, if the the Uzu/Senju were distant blood relatives, that means that HashiMito incested also. That was my only input to offer. Everything else was well placed
 

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There was a thousand years to spread the Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki/Hyuga lieneage along.

You shouldn't count out a possibility of Hamura also having Uzumaki because of incest issues. You have to also consider that the Hyuga have been incesting this whole time nonstop.

Plus, if the the Uzu/Senju were distant blood relatives, that means that HashiMito incested also. That was my only input to offer. Everything else was well placed
You are right , the incest point is not a proof , just a sign.


I didn't count out a possibility of Hamura also having Uzumaki because of incest issues , I did because of Hamura's Yin and I thought Uzumaki were Yang.
But that can be a mistake because the databook 4 says that Kushina , a Uzumaki born on the island of whirlpools , a pure Uzumaki , unlike Naruto and Nagato , has only control over Yin release.
So the Uzumaki clan may be a Yin dominant clan and so , the databook revealed that the Uzumaki clan can come from Hamura.


For the Hyuga , their leaders are completely crazy , they follow stupid rules , maybe it's because of incest that they began to think like that.
 
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Who was The Mother of INDRA AND Ashura? Who was Hogoromo’s Wife? Could He had married an Uzumaki Woman? or Could Hogoromo had a Daughter who founded the Uzumaki Clan the same as Ashura founded the Senju and Indra founded the Uchiha Clan remember Males in old time were always mention but females tended to be disregarded unless they did something spectacular like Kaguya did.
 

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Who was The Mother of INDRA AND Ashura? Who was Hogoromo’s Wife? Could He had married an Uzumaki Woman? or Could Hogoromo had a Daughter who founded the Uzumaki Clan the same as Ashura founded the Senju and Indra founded the Uchiha Clan remember Males in old time were always mention but females tended to be disregarded unless they did something spectacular like Kaguya did.
At the beginning , we were taught that Kaguya had only one child , only to understand later that this was a lie from BZ.
Kaguya had 2 twins.

The theory of the 3rd child is possible , as there is nothing to counter it , we can't trust what the characters say in the manga , some do but we can't.
If Hagoromo had a third child , that implies that he is lying to Naruto by omission.
Why does he want to hide this part of the story to Naruto?
The uchiha clan would be as distant blood relatives to Senju as Uzumaki are , and the distance is short , they were brothers and sisters , Kushina's "distant blood relatives" would be strange...

Hagoromo's wife and Kaguya's husband are theorical , as they were never mentionned plus Kaguya and Hagoromo both have the ability to use COAT , they may not need fecondation to create a baby.
But there is also no proof that they don't exist.
If Hagoromo's wife was a Uzumaki , why would Kushina say that Senju are distant blood relatives to Uzumaki?
As Ashura's mother , that Uzumaki girl would be the ancestor of the Senju clan , the blood relation would be direct not distant.

That's why I came with the idea that the Uzumaki clan could be founded from the sister of the guy that married Kaguya , or from the brother of the women that married Hagoromo.
In that way , every descendant of the brother of the women who married with Hagoromo would share genes with every descendant of Hagoromo without being their direct descendants or direct ancestors.
The Uzumaki clan would be distant blood related to the Senju clan , the son of the founder of the Uzumaki clan would be Ashura's and Indra's cousin..
 
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At the beginning , we were taught that Kaguya had only one child , only to understand later that this was a lie from BZ.
Kaguya had 2 twins.

The theory of the 3rd child is possible , as there is nothing to counter it , we can't trust what the characters say in the manga , some do but we can't.
If Hagoromo had a third child , that implies that he is lying to Naruto by omission.
Why does he want to hide this part of the story to Naruto?
The uchiha clan would be as distant blood relatives to Senju as Uzumaki are , and the distance is short , they were brothers and sisters , Kushina's "distant blood relatives" would be strange...

Hagoromo's wife and Kaguya's husband are theorical , as they were never mentionned plus Kaguya and Hagoromo both have the ability to use COAT , they may not need fecondation to create a baby.
But there is also no proof that they don't exist.
If Hagoromo's wife was a Uzumaki , why would Kushina say that Senju are distant blood relatives to Uzumaki?
As Ashura's mother , that Uzumaki girl would be the ancestor of the Senju clan , the blood relation would be direct not distant.

That's why I came with the idea that the Uzumaki clan could be founded from the sister of the guy that married Kaguya , or from the brother of the women that married Hagoromo.
In that way , every descendant of the brother of the women who married with Hagoromo would share genes with every descendant of Hagoromo without being their direct descendants or direct ancestors.
The Uzumaki clan would be distant blood related to the Senju clan , the son of the founder of the Uzumaki clan would be Ashura's and Indra's cousin..
Better go back and review Genetics when organism is separated over extended period of time they mutated and change Senju,Uchiha,Uzumaki and Hyuga came from Alien life that mated with Human life thus creating a Hybrid Being.After all Kaguya and Her Clan came to Earth from outside our Earth.
 

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Better go back and review Genetics when organism is separated over extended period of time they mutated and change Senju,Uchiha,Uzumaki and Hyuga came from Alien life that mated with Human life thus creating a Hybrid Being.After all Kaguya and Her Clan came to Earth from outside our Earth.
Ok , Kaguya alien , OK , everyshinobi is an alien.
We don't even know if Hagoromo or Ashura have some human DNA.
 
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The anime used my theory of Hagoromo giving the ability to use ninshuu to his friends.That explains a lot, and makes my 2 years old uzumaki theory more concrete for the readers.
 
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