[Theory] Uzumaki/Hyuga/Senju/Uchia

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Been a lot of discussion about how Uzumakis are Senjus.. but I don't think this is true. If we take the time to compare what is known about the Uzumaki and what is known about the Gedo Mazo there are some strong similarities between them.


Uzumaki (human descendants of the body of the Juubi)-
Creates chakra chains that are strong enough to imprison a tailed beast.
Kushina survived tailed beast extraction (all the other hosts immediately died after extraction).
Karin can heal mortal wounds by allowing someone to siphon her chakra.
Uzumaki's were long regarded as being sealing masters
Uzumaki's were known to be perfect containers for sealing tailed beasts. We've seen other lineages cannot successfully contain a tailed beast.

Gedo Mazo (actual body of the Juubi)
Creates chakra chains that are strong enough to imprison a tailed beast.
Gedo Mazo survived tailed beast extraction.
Madara survived a mortal wound/old age by siphoning gedo mazo chakra.
Gedo Mazo is a container for sealing the tailed beasts.


If we consider that the Uzumaki lineage is actual independent of the Senju or Uchia we'd get this..


Senju = Body of the sage
Uchia = Eyes of the sage
Uzumaki = body of the Juubi
So now... If we have have called out these 3, what clan could represent the eyes of the Juubi?
Ah yes, the Hyuga

So where does that leave us on Naruto himself.. I think Naruto is actually a descendant of at least 3 of the 4 clans.
How could this be?

Kushina
Well we obviously know that she's an Uzumaki.

Minato
Not much known here, at this point in the manga there isn't much point into keeping his lineage a secret unless its to shock us with something new.
So let's assume that Tsunade is Minato's mom. She's got blonde hair and she's a Senju, we know she was hooking up with Dan Kato who we also don't know much about, but he does have the ability to share chakra with others as he restored Tsunade. Let's assume he's at least part Uchia.

Naruto
So going off these assumptions, then Naruto himself would be a combination of the Uzumaki/Senju/Uchia bloodlines, and he also has a Hyuga girl that is definitely into him.

So if Naruto and Hinata have a kid it would signify the unification of all the former bloodlines, and the true return of the sage of the six paths.
 

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I disagree. Senju have the jubi's body and uchiha have the jubi's eyes... but idk where the hyuga play in all of this :l but you have an alright theory.
 

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This thought is good but doesn't have any manga support.
Dan kato as half uchiha looks like a thing without any manga support and so is true in case of relation between Tsunade and Minato.
 

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uGOT it ALL WRONG, boy...

so, I can not but ENTIRELY disagree.

Senjus, either Uzumakis or these noobies Hyugas are just kidGARBAGE.

in the course of manga's continuation your bratALIKE imagination IS to suffer deep disgrace/
 

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All, powers come from the tree (FRUIT)
Shinjuu/ Kaguya/ Sage/ Uchiha-Senju-Hyuuga-Uzamaki
Uchiha and Senju have all the powers given to the Sage's sons, though drastically weakened, but the Hyuuga and the Uzamaki only inherited one element, but that element is stronger than their relative the Uchiha/ Senju

Uzamaki- strongest lifeforce
Hyuuga- strongest eyes
 

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Kishi clearly stated the Uzumaki are distant blood relatives to the Senju and Uchiha, not Senju, not Uchiha but Uzumaki. Anybody that says the Uzumaki are Senju as in close relationship are just telling lies, sines Kishi says their distant, DISTANT relatives. And as such their arguments are all invalid and false.
 

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Kishi clearly stated the Uzumaki are distant blood relatives to the Senju and Uchiha, not Senju, not Uchiha but Uzumaki. Anybody that says the Uzumaki are Senju as in close relationship are just telling lies, sines Kishi says their distant, DISTANT relatives. And as such their arguments are all invalid and false.
No he didn't. He just said the Senju.
 

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Also, and this is just my opinion, but, Going back to when Hashi and the other Kage were revived... Tobirama said about the Uchiha eyes, that the more hate they have the more powerful they become ... Well perhaps this is where the 2 clans seperated.. one clan chose hate, while the other chose to absolve hate... I have never really seen a Hyuuga get angry.. plus this kinda ties in to the seals they have protecting the byakugan, could have a double purpose ...
 

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I think what we have is 4 paths.. The sage's mother ate the fruit of the god tree, this gave her chakra.

He was born with human powers that were granted through his mother.
These powers became what we know as the Senju and the Uchia, he may have had 2 children at this point.

Somepoint afterwards he defeated the Juubi and became its host. This granted additional powers that can only come from actually hosting the entire body, not just its chakra.

From this point, he had 2 new children who became the Uzumaki and the Hyuga.

From an order perspective, the Uchia are referred to as the 'Elder son' and the Senju 'Younger son'. Important note here is that it does not say the Senju are the 'Youngest* son', just that he is simply younger than the the Uchia ancestor.

TLDR: The sage had atleast 4 kids, atleast 2 before he became the Juubi host, and 2+ after.
 
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No he didn't. He just said the Senju.
Logic are not Senju and Uchiha descendent of the SO6P? Thy are from the two Sons,they are brothers. Logic dictates if the Uzumaki are distant relatives of the Second son,they must also be distant relatives of the First Son. Ergo they are.
 
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