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Only Uzumakis can really handle the nine tails
Madara gave his eyes to Nagato cause he was an Uzumaki and he'd be able to use it because of his strong chakra.
Therefore yes they do use their "Uzumaki Given Powers"
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Madara gave his eyes to Nagato cause he was an Uzumaki and he'd be able to use it because of his strong chakra.
Therefore yes they do use their "Uzumaki Given Powers"
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KingHashirama
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We are talking about CLANS..... not Blood lines.. their bloodline is the same.
Kurenai > Karin.
. Are you talking about the clan or the bloodline....
.... Tsunade is from the Senju CLAN:
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Who told you this BS? lmaoo. Uzumaki clan is only important because they are related to the Senju.. They only BECAME important to Konoha when the Senju clan went away.
Madara gave his eyes to Nagato because hes from the Senju lineage.
Uzumaki's given power = High Chakra. which is due to them being part of the Senju lineage.
I don't know which one is the one you hate the most, the Uzumaki or Derp Obito and the fact that he loves the Uzumaki. Regardless of which one it is, an argument over which Uzumaki could possibly be stronger than a Senju using his or her own chakra is pointless, and let me explain why.
The way you put it, it looks like you want to see an Uzumaki that BY HIMSELF, and not having any other sources of power, could defeat a Senju. But that's a contradiction. The Uzumaki are Senju as well, because they are related by blood. So, there could be no Uzumaki able to meet your expectations.
By the way, Naruto's hosting the Kyuubi is not quite an outer source of power. Him being an Uzumaki is one of the reasons he was able to withstand Kurama inside him.
All that aside, another reason why this argument is pointless is that so far, we have only seen two Senju, whereas from the Uzumaki we've seen Karin, Kushina, Mito, Naruto, and Nagato. Just because Tobirama and Hashirama have abnormal amounts of chakra and skill, doesn't mean that every Senju does (or did, if they are dead after all), just as you can't expect every Uchiha to have Mangekyou Sharingan just because the most popular Uchiha do.
There exists no conflict between Uzumaki and Senju. However, so far, the odds of the Uzumaki being on equal grounds, if not stronger, are high. We have yet to see the full power of both Clans, so why not wait a bit before Setting fire to the Rain?
The way you put it, it looks like you want to see an Uzumaki that BY HIMSELF, and not having any other sources of power, could defeat a Senju. But that's a contradiction. The Uzumaki are Senju as well, because they are related by blood. So, there could be no Uzumaki able to meet your expectations.
By the way, Naruto's hosting the Kyuubi is not quite an outer source of power. Him being an Uzumaki is one of the reasons he was able to withstand Kurama inside him.
All that aside, another reason why this argument is pointless is that so far, we have only seen two Senju, whereas from the Uzumaki we've seen Karin, Kushina, Mito, Naruto, and Nagato. Just because Tobirama and Hashirama have abnormal amounts of chakra and skill, doesn't mean that every Senju does (or did, if they are dead after all), just as you can't expect every Uchiha to have Mangekyou Sharingan just because the most popular Uchiha do.
There exists no conflict between Uzumaki and Senju. However, so far, the odds of the Uzumaki being on equal grounds, if not stronger, are high. We have yet to see the full power of both Clans, so why not wait a bit before Setting fire to the Rain?
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what is it that you are trying to point out? The Uzumaki clan's specialty was sealing jutsu.
look at how effective Minato was using Uzumaki sealing techs.
Look at what orochimaru did using an Uzumaki sealing tech. he brought back the 4 Hokage even after the fact that they had been sealed.
In fact, their sealing techs were so strong that their clan was destroyed by everyone else becaused they feared their Jutsu.
the large chakra reserves are said to be distantly related to the Senju
Senju= The Body
Tsunade's grandmother was an Uzumaki...that make Tsunade a quarter Uzumaki herself if not more(don't know who her mother and father are)
Sage mode Naruto may be just as strong if not stronger.....
come to think of it... I'd love to see a spar of strength between Tsunade and Sage Mode Naruto. That would be sick.
look at how effective Minato was using Uzumaki sealing techs.
Look at what orochimaru did using an Uzumaki sealing tech. he brought back the 4 Hokage even after the fact that they had been sealed.
In fact, their sealing techs were so strong that their clan was destroyed by everyone else becaused they feared their Jutsu.
the large chakra reserves are said to be distantly related to the Senju
Senju= The Body
Tsunade's grandmother was an Uzumaki...that make Tsunade a quarter Uzumaki herself if not more(don't know who her mother and father are)
Sage mode Naruto may be just as strong if not stronger.....
come to think of it... I'd love to see a spar of strength between Tsunade and Sage Mode Naruto. That would be sick.
KingHashirama
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I have problems with people who put Uzumaki clan and Senju clan as different bloodlines.
I however, asked for Uzumaki fanboys to name 1 Uzumaki clan member whose stronger then Tsunade.. a known Senju and stated as a Senju by Madara ;]. Yet I got no answer.
Also, just because Kushina and Mito were good at sealings the 9-tails doesn't apply to every Uzumaki ;].
Also, your last paragraph was full of contradictions.
Shes a full blood Senju..
Her Grandmother was a Uzumaki who had Senju blood. Then she married the Senju CLAN leader Hashirama....then she became part of the Senju CLAN..
Do you understand?
I'm here talking about the clans not the Bloodline.
Tsunade shits on SM Naruto.. only someone who doesn't know her powers would say that.
SM Naruto's strength = 5 mins
Tsunade has the same amount of strength for the entire fight.
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Wow, really dude? Making this thread based off of our argument?
Anyway, Uzumaki who can beat Tsunade........
Mito Uzumaki
Kushina Uzumaki.
There, need I say more?
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Cuz he's mad that I'm right about that one thread. He doesn't realize how much of a fanboy he is.
KingHashirama
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Thats like saying Hashirama as a whole can fight for the Senju.. and his mokuton would be considered Senju... But its not.
Reason I did not include Naruto is because he is Uzumaki/Senju + Tailed beast, just like Hashirama is Senju + Mokuton.
... are you serious??? lmaooo.
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I still don't get it. You can be as much of a fanboy as you want, but what point is there in making such a pseudo versus Thread when the only Uzumaki we have heavy evidence from are Nagato and Naruto, and the only Senju are Tobirama, Hashirama and Tsunade?
I say heavy evidence, but truth is, we don't even know what can Tobirama do in reality. We're JUST seeing what can Hashirama do, and Tsunade has been surpassed by Naruto and Nagato ages ago. What's so important about proving Senju as the strongest? Being the strongest doesn't mean you can't lose. Hyuuga is the strongest Clan in Konoha, and Neji still died.
But that doesn't make any sense. At all. I don't get you. What exactly are you trying to prove? That a basic, non Mokuton user Senju is stronger than a basic, non Senju related (though that's impossible), non Jiinchuuriki'd, non Rinnegan user Uzumaki? Is that it? But we haven't even seen such characters yet! How would any of us know?Thats like saying Hashirama as a whole can fight for the Senju.. and his mokuton would be considered Senju... But its not.
Reason I did not include Naruto is because he is Uzumaki/Senju + Tailed beast, just like Hashirama is Senju + Mokuton.
KingHashirama
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Dude.. I'm here talking about the clans. Your friend "Dark Spire" and "Derp Obito" claim that the Uzumaki CLAN is stronger then the Senju CLAN.
Uzumaki = Senju blood...
If the Uzumaki don't have senju blood they aren't Uzumaki then.
Point being: Senju clan shows the prime of the Senju lineage.. which includes the Uzumaki clan and the Senju clan.
Example: Madara Uchiha's "Uchiha power" is not Hashirama's dna.. its his power without Hashirama's DNA.. which is EMS perfect Susano'o.
There for Nagato having UCHIHA Madara's eyes and you counting Madara as a full Uzumaki.. is false.
KingHashirama
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it was a example dude.. lol
it basically meant thats how you would sound like claiming Nagato to be a full Uzumaki..
I kind of already understand where you're coming from. I completely disagree, of course, I think something way opposite to your opinion, but if that's what you believe in, that's fine. At least I could understand you. I was scared to be dealing with another one of those fanboys, whose arguments I am always unable to understand.