Us Blacks been through too much!

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Holy shit, two people! This shit happens to multiple people from all skin colors. Stop acting as if the blacks in America have it so bad, because you really don't. It's a lot worse in different countries.

We do have it bad. Only thing that has changed since the 70's is that we can hang with whites now

 

[DocThao]

blacks commit more crimes against blacks than whites do

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

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[Aim64C]

We peacefully protest lately, but if it doesn't work, people get their cause noticed.

The problem is determining what you want.

Do you want the justice system to be followed?

Then don't ask for the officer to be immediately arrested. That is not how it works.

When I walk to the other side of the street because I see a black man with a hoodie up and pants around his thighs - I'm "jumping to conclusions" and "judging someone before I get to know them." When an officer shoots a young man in the street - it's okay to immediately call for his arrest and charge with murder... before any kind of investigation has been allowed to follow through?

Or you have the New Black Panthers in the area, currently (with the Islamic Nation and the Communist Party of Chicago) who are calling for the -death- of this officer. While "peacefully protesting."

We aren't ignorant.

Seven people were shot and killed in Chicago. All of them black.

Killed by their own "brothers" in the "black community."

Yet where are the riots?

Ferguson, MO - of all places.

And who is carrying out the riots?

A few locals - but mostly Black Panthers and Islamic Nation supporters from Chicago and, by now, other major population centers outside of the States.

You starting to get the picture, yet?

You're being used.

Used to start a civil war in this nation.

It is not the people of Ferguson, MO who are being 'heard' when the first riot torched the Quick Trip (the one Brown robbed - you see, they knew what really happened and it was both an attempt to destroy the security tapes and a message to all local businesses - there is a new law in Ferguson and it is the vengeance of the gangs that have begun infiltrating the area). It is not the people of Ferguson who are being heard when they lock themselves in their homes to avoid the out-of-state looters and rioters rampaging through the streets for the media attention.

It is all to give the -impression- that Ferguson is rioting - that they are 'oppressed by the white man.' Why? So that you will do it, too, wherever you live.

There is a war that has been declared against the laws and principles of this nation. The Black Panthers and the Islamic Nation are the S.S. of a new National Socialist party rising in America. They want to make you a pawn in it using race as the dividing point.

You like peanut butter? Black man. You like rap? Black man. Prefer soothing blues? Guess who pioneered this shit out of that.

You like Pop? We run that business. You watch basketball? You like traffic lights? You like gas masks? I'm sorry to tell you but we either created or improved all of that

You are no more responsible for those achievements than I am responsible for every achievement made by Germans.

This is the problem with what you have been taught all through school and all through your life.

While the achievements of people like George Washington Carver (who didn't actually invent peanut butter, by the way - but many other great things) are absolutely amazing and the world would not be the same without them....

What did being black have anything to do with those accomplishments?

Tesla was a Serb-born Austrian national from what would become Montenegro. Big ****ing whoop - no one gives a shit that he was a Serb (except for, perhaps, the Croats and Czech - but no one calls their slaughtering of each other racism because they're the same color). What people note about Tesla was what he did and there are even units of measure in the world of electronics that bear his name. Our entire modern way of life hinges upon his pioneering/refinement of the induction motor and his partnership with Westinghouse (against Edison - no less - an interesting bit of history you were likely never told).

None of our electrical infrastructure would exist today were it not for the work of Tesla (perhaps if Tesla didn't do it - someone else would have, eventually - but that's not withstanding).

Regardless - all of these people who were great figures in innovation....

Did they sit there and talk about how things were unfair?

Did they boast about the accomplishments of 'their people?' Did Einstein seem to think he was owed some kind of individual appreciation because he was German?

No.

They all took it upon themselves to learn and do. They did not expect some kind of manna from heaven because some guy who was the same ethnic group as they were did something amazing.

That's like me arguing that I'm oppressed, somehow, because I could easily be a double for Tom Cruise and am not being treated like someone of his reputation should be.

I mean - where's my requests to do advertisements for batteries?

Do you have any idea how much I would like to be filmed flying a jet around, blowing things up?

I mean... obviously, there's some nefarious plot afoot to keep me from being in Hollyweird because I'm one of those Libertarian-leaning people that no one really knows what to do with.

 

[Conspirator.]

Black people are partially at fault in the US. Sure the police were wrong in the Michael Brown incident, but the number of black on black killings in America are unbelievably high. That's partially why the police may be more brutal towards them.(in addition to maybe being racist)

PS: What is the definition of "blacks"? Is it just those of African origin, or do some Asians count?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

"Us blacks" lulz.

Go to sleep kid;

The world is much larger than you imagine.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

The problem is determining what you want.

Do you want the justice system to be followed?

Then don't ask for the officer to be immediately arrested. That is not how it works.

When I walk to the other side of the street because I see a black man with a hoodie up and pants around his thighs - I'm "jumping to conclusions" and "judging someone before I get to know them." When an officer shoots a young man in the street - it's okay to immediately call for his arrest and charge with murder... before any kind of investigation has been allowed to follow through?

Or you have the New Black Panthers in the area, currently (with the Islamic Nation and the Communist Party of Chicago) who are calling for the -death- of this officer. While "peacefully protesting."



Seven people were shot and killed in Chicago. All of them black.

Killed by their own "brothers" in the "black community."

Yet where are the riots?

Ferguson, MO - of all places.

And who is carrying out the riots?

A few locals - but mostly Black Panthers and Islamic Nation supporters from Chicago and, by now, other major population centers outside of the States.

You starting to get the picture, yet?

You're being used.

Used to start a civil war in this nation.

It is not the people of Ferguson, MO who are being 'heard' when the first riot torched the Quick Trip (the one Brown robbed - you see, they knew what really happened and it was both an attempt to destroy the security tapes and a message to all local businesses - there is a new law in Ferguson and it is the vengeance of the gangs that have begun infiltrating the area). It is not the people of Ferguson who are being heard when they lock themselves in their homes to avoid the out-of-state looters and rioters rampaging through the streets for the media attention.

It is all to give the -impression- that Ferguson is rioting - that they are 'oppressed by the white man.' Why? So that you will do it, too, wherever you live.

There is a war that has been declared against the laws and principles of this nation. The Black Panthers and the Islamic Nation are the S.S. of a new National Socialist party rising in America. They want to make you a pawn in it using race as the dividing point.



You are no more responsible for those achievements than I am responsible for every achievement made by Germans.

This is the problem with what you have been taught all through school and all through your life.

While the achievements of people like George Washington Carver (who didn't actually invent peanut butter, by the way - but many other great things) are absolutely amazing and the world would not be the same without them....

What did being black have anything to do with those accomplishments?

Tesla was a Serb-born Austrian national from what would become Montenegro. Big ****ing whoop - no one gives a shit that he was a Serb (except for, perhaps, the Croats and Czech - but no one calls their slaughtering of each other racism because they're the same color). What people note about Tesla was what he did and there are even units of measure in the world of electronics that bear his name. Our entire modern way of life hinges upon his pioneering/refinement of the induction motor and his partnership with Westinghouse (against Edison - no less - an interesting bit of history you were likely never told).

None of our electrical infrastructure would exist today were it not for the work of Tesla (perhaps if Tesla didn't do it - someone else would have, eventually - but that's not withstanding).

Regardless - all of these people who were great figures in innovation....

Did they sit there and talk about how things were unfair?

Did they boast about the accomplishments of 'their people?' Did Einstein seem to think he was owed some kind of individual appreciation because he was German?

No.

They all took it upon themselves to learn and do. They did not expect some kind of manna from heaven because some guy who was the same ethnic group as they were did something amazing.

That's like me arguing that I'm oppressed, somehow, because I could easily be a double for Tom Cruise and am not being treated like someone of his reputation should be.

I mean - where's my requests to do advertisements for batteries?

Do you have any idea how much I would like to be filmed flying a jet around, blowing things up?

I mean... obviously, there's some nefarious plot afoot to keep me from being in Hollyweird because I'm one of those Libertarian-leaning people that no one really knows what to do with.

To imply that black people as a whole are ignorant is incorrect. I'm content with my life.. I graduated high school with a 3.5. I grew up in a 120,000 salary household with a single mom. I had every gameboy and new shoe I wanted and I still do. So to call black people ignorant as a whole is about as accurate as saying white people as a whole can't rap while looking at eminem and Macklemore.

Some people on this forum are simply either desensitized or racist.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I know, right? I hope I'm not next.

#blackpower

 

[Aim64C]

To imply that black people as a whole are ignorant is incorrect. I'm content with my life.. I graduated high school with a 3.5. I grew up in a 120,000 salary household with a single mom. I had every gameboy and new shoe I wanted and I still do. So to call black people ignorant as a whole is about as accurate as saying white people as a whole can't rap while looking at eminem and Macklemore.

And yet you speak as if you can speak for the "black community."

So you got a 3.5 in highschool. I'm supposed to be impressed?

You were spoiled and got everything you wanted? ... Neat?

I'll tell you there is really only one question that you need to answer. Just one.

Of what use are you to me?

Can you make something I might want to buy? Can you repair something I use? Do you have knowledge and/or experience that is hard to come by? How about a sort of trade skill - some kind of construction, welding, machining, etc?

That's one of the other nifty little things you're never told about the world. No one cares about where you went to college, how well you did, etc. They really do not. What matters is what you can do that the other 20,000 people who have taken that course can't (and that may simply be there aren't enough of them to physically cover the demand for that skill).

No one really cares what your parents' income was unless you're dealing with some aristocratic douches looking to arrange a marriage or something (and those don't work too well in the U.S.) No one really cares how much stuff you had as a kid. And when it comes right down to it - they really don't give a damned about your education.

I've met a lot of people with degrees requiring more years of college than they can count without using their fingers. They usually get fired and replaced with a trade school graduate who knows how to crack open a book or type things into google when he runs into something he doesn't know.

The only thing that really matters in this world is what you can do that would make those around you willing to enter into a trade agreement with you. Perhaps that trade agreement is a joint partnership - also known as employment - perhaps you are striking out on your own.

Generally speaking, I pay as little attention to rap as possible. What little artistic expression was in that medium has been eradicated by the culture that has developed around it. It is about as vile as sports have become in terms of propagating cultural delusion.

Some people on this forum are simply either desensitized or racist.

Oh, yes, "they" must be the problem.

"We" - "they" - "some"

Do not delude yourself with such tripe.

Each individual is responsible for his or her own actions.

If there was a person in your streets, throwing fire bombs at local businesses - what would your reaction be?

Would your opinion suddenly change if he was black? Or white? How about Asian? Or can you even tell behind the ski mask?

The answer is that no rational human being would give a damned what color the person was. The fact is there's a person doing something openly and blatantly destructive to the area amounting to property damage and the possibility of harm to persons. Little more needs to be known than that.

If, at any point, you start considering race - you've stumbled into racism. His race (or mysterious lack thereof) does not suddenly change what he is doing, does not suddenly make it right, and does not suddenly change the consequences of allowing that behavior to continue.

But time and time again:

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" Altogether, 19 people were wounded by Sunday afternoon and no arrests had been made. According to police statistics, between January and the beginning of August, shootings were up 12 percent compared to 2013. "

Where are the calls for the arrests of these people?

Why are there not riots to bring the perpetrators to justice?

Or peaceful demonstrations?

Or... anything?

Now I am going to actually level a finger, here.

Yes. You are racist. "The whole black community" - meaning whoever says: "I'm part of the black community." Even in areas where the police don't bother to patrol, any longer, because the gangs have driven them out - it's black people killing black people. Thugs killing thugs or the complacent people living amongst them.

Is it really "racism" from "whites" that is holding "the black community" back?

Harken back to your first post in this thread.

Racism does still exist and it is damaging "the black community."

Which is precisely why those blacks who don't bother being a "part of the black community" do pretty well for themselves.

The racism that is holding back the "black community" is the anti-white racism underlying the self-victimization of "the black community." "Woe is me." "How are we ever to do anything without change?" "We need change." "We need justice." "Oh, white folk never let us do anything."

It's the politics of hopelessness. It's what warlords use to incite people to become their pawns. It's how Hitler came to power in Germany and how he went about exterminating the Jews. It's how the Croats overthrew the Serbian rule of Yugoslavia and re-initiated an age old process of ethnic cleansing.

Someone always stands up and beats the drums: "You have been mistreated. No one understands you... except me/us - I/we do. And together... together we can make things happen!" Then they ask you to vote for them... and eventually they ask you to carry a rifle for them. Before too much longer, you're getting justice against those who were so 'mean' before.

Perhaps I'm misreading your post and it's not a proper one to grind an axe against.

But I see this time and time again. I went through high school and college in a fairly diverse area. I saw people of all different ethnicity succeed and fail. I saw men and women succeed and fail. I saw people speaking all different languages succeed and fail (though most of them were successful even without 'special help').

The common denominator across all of them was attitude. The people who succeeded were looking for success. The people who failed were looking for failure (or otherwise so focused on/worried about it that they wouldn't have seen success if it smacked them in the face). The people who succeeded sought to develop his/her self. The people who failed sought to blame others/luck/god/circumstance.

They may not have been able to succeed in anything they chose - at least not at first... but they were able to find success - they were able to grow and develop as people.

But those who make the choices that lead to failure simply fester. They never see success even when it is right in front of them. They never see opportunity - they only see what they do not have.

While there are certainly other problems out there - welfare has successfully -destroyed- the core black family by incentivizing single parent homes. Regulation has basically turned unions into the only source of trade labor (they even control things like construction codes... and you kind of have to sell your soul to them in order to be able to learn the codes to get certified - or sign over your first born child to get the building codes/regulations for that year.... and the codes change yearly).

Affirmative action/Equal Opportunity has made it virtually impossible for the low income racial minority to get anywhere in life. It helps if you have a good reputation - but no employer is going to take a risk on a kid who has a checkered past who is going to wrap him up in a racial discrimination lawsuit for firing him if he doesn't pan out.

So there are obstacles that need to be done away with - ironically, the very things most of the liberals staunchly defend as necessary to protect the people they have, by all metrics, destroyed.

But nothing is going to change until "the black community" stops seeing itself as the victim. Even when you take law enforcement out of the equation, when you take "white owned businesses" out of the equation, etc - things don't suddenly get 'better' for the 'black community.' They kill more of each other than the police ever did (rightfully or wrongfully). They rob and steal from each other. Then they try and blame the 'white folk' who stop to buy gas on their way through town.

It would be comical if I didn't know where this leads.

 

[Jack Spicer]

And yet you speak as if you can speak for the "black community."

So you got a 3.5 in highschool. I'm supposed to be impressed?

You were spoiled and got everything you wanted? ... Neat?

I'll tell you there is really only one question that you need to answer. Just one.

Of what use are you to me?

Can you make something I might want to buy? Can you repair something I use? Do you have knowledge and/or experience that is hard to come by? How about a sort of trade skill - some kind of construction, welding, machining, etc?

That's one of the other nifty little things you're never told about the world. No one cares about where you went to college, how well you did, etc. They really do not. What matters is what you can do that the other 20,000 people who have taken that course can't (and that may simply be there aren't enough of them to physically cover the demand for that skill).

No one really cares what your parents' income was unless you're dealing with some aristocratic douches looking to arrange a marriage or something (and those don't work too well in the U.S.) No one really cares how much stuff you had as a kid. And when it comes right down to it - they really don't give a damned about your education.

I've met a lot of people with degrees requiring more years of college than they can count without using their fingers. They usually get fired and replaced with a trade school graduate who knows how to crack open a book or type things into google when he runs into something he doesn't know.

The only thing that really matters in this world is what you can do that would make those around you willing to enter into a trade agreement with you. Perhaps that trade agreement is a joint partnership - also known as employment - perhaps you are striking out on your own.

Generally speaking, I pay as little attention to rap as possible. What little artistic expression was in that medium has been eradicated by the culture that has developed around it. It is about as vile as sports have become in terms of propagating cultural delusion.



Oh, yes, "they" must be the problem.

"We" - "they" - "some"

Do not delude yourself with such tripe.

Each individual is responsible for his or her own actions.

If there was a person in your streets, throwing fire bombs at local businesses - what would your reaction be?

Would your opinion suddenly change if he was black? Or white? How about Asian? Or can you even tell behind the ski mask?

The answer is that no rational human being would give a damned what color the person was. The fact is there's a person doing something openly and blatantly destructive to the area amounting to property damage and the possibility of harm to persons. Little more needs to be known than that.

If, at any point, you start considering race - you've stumbled into racism. His race (or mysterious lack thereof) does not suddenly change what he is doing, does not suddenly make it right, and does not suddenly change the consequences of allowing that behavior to continue.

But time and time again:

You must be registered for see links

" Altogether, 19 people were wounded by Sunday afternoon and no arrests had been made. According to police statistics, between January and the beginning of August, shootings were up 12 percent compared to 2013. "

Where are the calls for the arrests of these people?

Why are there not riots to bring the perpetrators to justice?

Or peaceful demonstrations?

Or... anything?

Now I am going to actually level a finger, here.

Yes. You are racist. "The whole black community" - meaning whoever says: "I'm part of the black community." Even in areas where the police don't bother to patrol, any longer, because the gangs have driven them out - it's black people killing black people. Thugs killing thugs or the complacent people living amongst them.

Is it really "racism" from "whites" that is holding "the black community" back?

Harken back to your first post in this thread.

Racism does still exist and it is damaging "the black community."

Which is precisely why those blacks who don't bother being a "part of the black community" do pretty well for themselves.

The racism that is holding back the "black community" is the anti-white racism underlying the self-victimization of "the black community." "Woe is me." "How are we ever to do anything without change?" "We need change." "We need justice." "Oh, white folk never let us do anything."

It's the politics of hopelessness. It's what warlords use to incite people to become their pawns. It's how Hitler came to power in Germany and how he went about exterminating the Jews. It's how the Croats overthrew the Serbian rule of Yugoslavia and re-initiated an age old process of ethnic cleansing.

Someone always stands up and beats the drums: "You have been mistreated. No one understands you... except me/us - I/we do. And together... together we can make things happen!" Then they ask you to vote for them... and eventually they ask you to carry a rifle for them. Before too much longer, you're getting justice against those who were so 'mean' before.

Perhaps I'm misreading your post and it's not a proper one to grind an axe against.

But I see this time and time again. I went through high school and college in a fairly diverse area. I saw people of all different ethnicity succeed and fail. I saw men and women succeed and fail. I saw people speaking all different languages succeed and fail (though most of them were successful even without 'special help').

The common denominator across all of them was attitude. The people who succeeded were looking for success. The people who failed were looking for failure (or otherwise so focused on/worried about it that they wouldn't have seen success if it smacked them in the face). The people who succeeded sought to develop his/her self. The people who failed sought to blame others/luck/god/circumstance.

They may not have been able to succeed in anything they chose - at least not at first... but they were able to find success - they were able to grow and develop as people.

But those who make the choices that lead to failure simply fester. They never see success even when it is right in front of them. They never see opportunity - they only see what they do not have.

While there are certainly other problems out there - welfare has successfully -destroyed- the core black family by incentivizing single parent homes. Regulation has basically turned unions into the only source of trade labor (they even control things like construction codes... and you kind of have to sell your soul to them in order to be able to learn the codes to get certified - or sign over your first born child to get the building codes/regulations for that year.... and the codes change yearly).

Affirmative action/Equal Opportunity has made it virtually impossible for the low income racial minority to get anywhere in life. It helps if you have a good reputation - but no employer is going to take a risk on a kid who has a checkered past who is going to wrap him up in a racial discrimination lawsuit for firing him if he doesn't pan out.

So there are obstacles that need to be done away with - ironically, the very things most of the liberals staunchly defend as necessary to protect the people they have, by all metrics, destroyed.

But nothing is going to change until "the black community" stops seeing itself as the victim. Even when you take law enforcement out of the equation, when you take "white owned businesses" out of the equation, etc - things don't suddenly get 'better' for the 'black community.' They kill more of each other than the police ever did (rightfully or wrongfully). They rob and steal from each other. Then they try and blame the 'white folk' who stop to buy gas on their way through town.

It would be comical if I didn't know where this leads.

I am no victim. Stop oppressing me.

#blackpower

 

[Ōkami]

Do you guys just sacrifice a black teen every few years to get media attention and then use that to ***** about inequalities.

Then you will bring up slavery as if you went through it even though you're on food stamps and Welfare because you're too lazy to get an actual job.

Better yet though you say police are ruining your community. Never mind though that you're the ones selling the drugs and promoting the gang life style which will attract black kids.

Maybe if you guys quit *****ing for five seconds and realize you're ones that can stop all of this from happening then maybe a black kid wouldn't get shot.

But I'm just playing to your stereotypes.

 

[kimb]

Please, stop.

Ignorance makes my stomach turn. It's like you'd blame a puppy for running in circles if you broke its left legs when it was born.
Unomillennial oppression caused the predicament that a large portion of African American citizens find themselves in. With countless exact reasons for how they came into their current standings.

It sickens me even more that you can regurgitate statistics without considering the causes of such extreme deviance in a particular demographic.
.

The NB Smart guys are coming out of the shadows to spread light on shit.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Do you guys just sacrifice a black teen every few years to get media attention and then use that to ***** about inequalities.

Then you will bring up slavery as if you went through it even though you're on food stamps and Welfare because you're too lazy to get an actual job.

Better yet though you say police are ruining your community. Never mind though that you're the ones selling the drugs and promoting the gang life style which will attract black kids.

Maybe if you guys quit *****ing for five seconds and realize you're ones that can stop all of this from happening then maybe a black kid wouldn't get shot.

But I'm just playing to your stereotypes.

STOP BEING RACIST TOWARDS ME AND MY PEOPLE.

#blackpower

 

[Ōkami]

STOP BEING RACIST TOWARDS ME AND MY PEOPLE.

#blackpower

NO I WILL KEEP BEING RACIST TOWARDS YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE BY USING STEREOTYPES AND THE TRUTH.

#whitesupremacy

 

[Jack Spicer]

NO I WILL KEEP BEING RACIST TOWARDS YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE BY USING STEREOTYPES AND THE TRUTH.

#whitesupremacy

NO YOUR TRUTHS ARE NOT TRUTHS I AINT CALLING YOU A LIAR BUT I AINT CALLING YOU A TRUTHER EITHER ALSO THE STEREOTYPES ARE NOT STEREOS AT ALL

#blackpower

 

[kimb]

Lets be real here; No one gives a shit about the black community. Not America, not the government, not even blacks. Black on black crime is the norm, look at chiraq. No one gives a shit about the hundreds of innocents that die every year, but when a white cop kills a black person, it makes headlines.

I'm sick of it. Now you want to give a shit? Now you see a problem? FOH

 

[kimb]

Holy shit, two people! This shit happens to multiple people from all skin colors. Stop acting as if the blacks in America have it so bad, because you really don't. It's a lot worse in different countries.

Hello friend, have you heard of a little place known as chiraq?

 

[Ōkami]

NO YOUR TRUTHS ARE NOT TRUTHS I AINT CALLING YOU A LIAR BUT I AINT CALLING YOU A TRUTHER EITHER ALSO THE STEREOTYPES ARE NOT STEREOS AT ALL

#blackpower

MY TRUTH ARE TRUTHS AND NOT LIES I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE IN DENIAL BUT YOU'RE NOT ACCEPTING EITHER YOU'RE RIGHT THEY'RE NOT STEREO SO WHY DO WE CALL THEM THAT?

#whitesupremacy

 

[Jack Spicer]

MY TRUTH ARE TRUTHS AND NOT LIES I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE IN DENIAL BUT YOU'RE NOT ACCEPTING EITHER YOU'RE RIGHT THEY'RE NOT STEREO SO WHY DO WE CALL THEM THAT?

#whitesupremacy

YOUR LYING TRUTHS ARE NOT TRUTHS FOR THEY ARE LYING LIES AND I'M IN IN DE-NILE BECAUSE I'M NOT AN EGYPTIAN STEREO IS FOR MUSIC I LIKE MUSIC I LIKE POP AND ROCK AND METAL

#blackpower

 

[Aim64C]

I am no victim. Stop oppressing me.

#blackpower

Sometimes, I really wish I had a titanium rod I could just smack people through the screen with. It would be glorious. I know what you're doing - which I why a beating is more appropriate than an actual retort.