(Updated)Proof that kakashi>sasuke

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If you've read the last chapters and still think Kakashi is "a lame chump" then there is no salvation for you and I'm better off arguing with the wall.

Seriously, such a statement is like saying that Itachi is fodder. :sy:




Bullshit, Sasuke's copying is limited to some genin taijutsu moves - which were later replicated by Naruto, without any Sharingan.

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hmmm... How can you be so sure about that? Do you live next door to kishi?? Last time i checked the sharingan possess such abilities and sasuke was able to copy jutsus with his 2 tamoe sharingan when he was a genin... Now, he has the highest level of the sharingan and has improved greatly in the use of it... So yes he can copy jutsus too, stop trying to down play sasuke's abilities...
 

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Kakashi gets killed by Amaterasu
 

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lame chump saved by two 12 year olds

Lol, he was temporarily immobilized. Zabuza would need to free him anyway if he wanted to kill him. Thanks to using Water Prison on Kakashi, Zabuza would be able to kill Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Tazuna but not Kakashi. :sy: Zabuza's water prison did not make Kakashi run out of breath like Kisame's.

lame chump always get saved by naruto

The only situation which comes to my mind is fight against Kakuzu, after which Kakashi stated he would have simply warped the shit out of Kak if Naruto hadn't arrived. Fail.
Ah, I know, you probably speaking about THIS?


lame chump last chap proved it again froze up in the heat of battle smh

Yeah, after kicking butts of 7 strongest immortal ninja swordsmen, fending off several immortal jinchuurikis in their second forms and using bunch of kamuis along with many other jutsu.
And please do tell me how Naruto, Bee and Guy would be able to land a single hit on Tobi if it wasn't for Kakashi. xd

lame chump got smashed by itachi worst than sasuke did

In part I, hater. Besides, Itachi didn't fight all out against Sasuke, just so you know.

lame chump pissed his self when oro ran up

And still stating he could take him down at the cost of his life. In part I.

Please... xd

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hmmm... How can you be so sure about that? Do you live next door to kishi?? Last time i checked the sharingan possess such abilities and sasuke was able to copy jutsus with his 2 tamoe sharingan when he was a genin... Now, he has the highest level of the sharingan and has improved greatly in the use of it... So yes he can copy jutsus too, stop trying to down play sasuke's abilities...

He hasn't shown any copying. In the same way I can say Kakashi can use all five elements. For some reason it's Kakashi who's known as Mirror Ninja, not Itachi or Sasuke. Deal with it.
 
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This is difficult to rate, especially now that kishi is making kakashi spam kamui continuosly without his chakra finishing.
But seriously, we know kakashi becomes slow after using a kamui. Sasuke can spam arrows all day till kakashi gets exausted. I'm not even going to include amaterasu. Sasuke wins all the time
 

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I'm not here to side with one over the other, but the OP argument is incredibly biased. Just sayin.
 

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This is difficult to rate, especially now that kishi is making kakashi spam kamui continuosly without his chakra finishing.
But seriously, we know kakashi becomes slow after using a kamui. Sasuke can spam arrows all day till kakashi gets exausted. I'm not even going to include amaterasu. Sasuke wins all the time
 

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I'm not here to side with one over the other, but the OP argument is incredibly biased. Just sayin.

I actually agree with this. He made it look like Kakashi would own Sasuke. Kakashi would win, but with difficulties.
 

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Not on Sasuke's side, but you're overrating Kakashi. Sorry to say

Mua? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't think I am, because I know well Kakashi's limitations. But I also know he's underrestimated by the community. This changed a little with the recent chapters, but is still the case. Please read Uchihas with big guns's post. And then tell me Kakashi is overrated.


Are you the one to speak, Mr. Hater? You're so biased you'd probably say Anko could take Kakashi down.
By the way, you still haven't answered on anything I explained, still you had time to write I'm trolling. I take it as retreating? At last. Good night.
 
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Sasuke had surpassed Kakashi when he go t EMS. Kakashi is not stupid he's gonna use kamui on arrows n AMA his not gonna take the chance n to all the ppl who says Kakashi can cut lightning…well thts true but I'm pretty sure he cut a regular lightning not a lightning thts a size of a dragon Kakashi is my second fav character so pls don't say I'm hating on him but I'm not saying sasuke would win 100% I mean we're talking about Kakashi xD
 

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@ takos it's pointless continuing this u not gonna change yo mind so why try...

don't sleep on anko twin snake mutual death k.o kakashi
 

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i like kakashi, i hate sasuke, but i thought it was obvious sasuke would beat kakashi, the 4th raikage had to sacrifice his left arm (and was about to sacrifice a leg) fighting sasuke, the only thing kakashi has going for him is kamui, i don't see him breaking susano'o anytime soon (without kamui) nor do i see him dodging an arrow or dodging amaterasu. I am not a sasuke fanboy but sasuke takes this one easy. The only reason why kakashi is such a huge part in the fight against tobi is that he can use kamui, not that he is so strong just that he is the best counter against tobi's S/T jutsu, it is like wind and lightning, naruto's rasenshuriken can beat all (or most, dont want to go into detail in that) of sasuke's lightning techs just because of style advantage.
 

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no sasuke is stronger.sasuke surpass kakashi when he got MS not by alot but he did and is in the lead since current kakashi is weaker than EMS sasuke end of story.
 

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What a stupid thread!!!! Your telling me kakashi can beat this!!
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Lol, he was temporarily immobilized. Zabuza would need to free him anyway if he wanted to kill him. Thanks to using Water Prison on Kakashi, Zabuza would be able to kill Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Tazuna but not Kakashi. :sy: Zabuza's water prison did not make Kakashi run out of breath like Kisame's.



The only situation which comes to my mind is fight against Kakuzu, after which Kakashi stated he would have simply warped the shit out of Kak if Naruto hadn't arrived. Fail.
Ah, I know, you probably speaking about THIS?




Yeah, after kicking butts of 7 strongest immortal ninja swordsmen, fending off several immortal jinchuurikis in their second forms and using bunch of kamuis along with many other jutsu.
And please do tell me how Naruto, Bee and Guy would be able to land a single hit on Tobi if it wasn't for Kakashi. xd



In part I, hater. Besides, Itachi didn't fight all out against Sasuke, just so you know.



And still stating he could take him down at the cost of his life. In part I.

Please... xd



He hasn't shown any copying. In the same way I can say Kakashi can use all five elements. For some reason it's Kakashi who's known as Mirror Ninja, not Itachi or Sasuke. Deal with it.

Kakashi would have died to Zabuza.....he even said the battle was "over" over means, one finished, Kakashi was finished. His and Kisame's water prison is the same, There are most likely aspects the user can control, Kakashi found a way to hold his breathe a lot longer than the chuunin and Neji Kisame had trapped, or Kishi just fixed the jutsu
 

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Proof that kakashi greater than sasuke.
Kaakshi's Abilities
Copying Jutsus
Kakashi Hatake also known as copy ninja and elite is a main charachter of the series Naruto and Naruto
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shippuden. He is known all over the World for his mongekyo sharingan(a special eye of a special family uchiha). He is known as copy ninja to copy over thousands of jutsus
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S/t Techniques
Kakashi is also able to use a space time technique kamui that can transport objects. He can take this advantage fighting Sasuke.
Mongekyo Sharingan
Kakashi also has a mongekyo Sharingan. He can easily see how fast sasuke is moving.
Natures
As he has copied over thousands of jutsus, he has mastered five natures, fire, lightning, wind, earth and water. He can use all these as an advantage against Sasuke.
Lightning Master
Kakashi has mastered lightning nature of which, he uses an S-Rank Technique Raikiri and an A-RAnk technique Chidori.
Fire Release
Kakashi is also very good in fire release and uses uchiha's special fireball technique.
Water Release
Kakashi is also a master in water. He can use siz water techniques:

Hiding in a mist technique
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Great Waterfall Technique
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Shark Bullet Technique

Earth Release
Kakashi has also been a good in earth release. he copied earth techniques from earth users from all over the world. He has been shown using following earth techniques:
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Wind Release
Kakashi also uses an A-Rank wind release technique rasengan which is in the same way as chidori.
Taijutsu
kakashi has proven to be very adept in taijutsu, which, combined with his impressive speed, allows him to effectively catch his opponents off guard and evade attacks. His hand seal prowess has also been noted as very great, as he is able to use high-level techniques with few hand seals and perform them at highly difficult speeds to follow.
Eight gates
Kakashi had also unlocked the first two of the eight gates so he can also use the in his battle with sasuke.


Speed
Kakashi has been on the 9/10th level of speed. He was as fast as couldn't even be approched by sasuke. He was shown many times greater than Sasuke.
Combos
Kakashi also uses many taijutsu combos which are:
Silent Killing
Strong Fist
Lotus Front

Genjutsu
Kakashi also uses some genjutsus but they won't stand a chance against Sasuke.
I want to start by saying everything put in red is literally completely worthless fighting against Sasuke. All of these Taijutsu combos that your bragging about can not touch Sasuke do to multiple defenses against it, the fact that Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan can read/predict better than the Mangekyou Sharingan. So he can 1 see these attacks coming and 2 defend against them using Susanoo cover in Amaterasu or Simple Chidori Nagashi.
Summary: Susanoo Coated in Amaterasu>Taijustu
Now in Genjutsu Kakashi has not shown to be amazing in this category of fighting if anything Sasuke has shown to outclass him in such a fighting Style and atleast shown his effectiveness of this style in battle, Examples of these Feats:
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Putting someone whos eyes are trained to see through Genjutsu in a Genjutsu long enough to create an opening which is exactly what "Genjutsu" is for.
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Countering Itachi's Genjutsu with Genjutsu, Itachi one who Masters in this Art.
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Defeating the Tsukiyomi which is one a completely different level than any Genjutsu Kakashi could attempt.
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Stunning Killer B and stopping his attack
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Using Genjutsu to create his victory against Danzo, Fooling him.
Kakashi's Genjutsu related feats can not compare to Sasuke Uchiha's.
Copying Jutsus: This is literally a Feat that both these ninja possess this is not a kakashi feat but a Sharingan feat.
Ninjutsu:
Yes,Kakashi clearly dominates this area but these jutsu do no show the strength needed to breach Susanoo(Full). Even if you want to argue that some of these Jutsu can break it, which is unprovable. I on the other hand can compare those Jutsus to those previously used on Sasuke Susanoo.
Sasuke's Susanoo has shown to block the most famous attacks from the Kages and more examples, The Raikages Raiger Bomb:
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Which has the Enhanced Power of the Lighting Armor.
Blocking the Combination of Kazekage Gaara and 3 Kage Subordinate's simultaneous attack:
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The Boil/Lava style from Mizukage:
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Here Subordinate from with a Sword from the Mist Swordsman:
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I really don't think i need to continue on the feats of Susanoo and these are just the incomplete versions blocking Kage level attacks. Lava style being a combination of 2 Nature Transformations. Thinking that solo attacks or 1 Nature Transformation attacks would breach Susanoo Full or even incomplete is beyond belief.
Backup for Defending against Kakashi's Amazing ninjutsu is offense as well. I say this with Susanoo Arrow in mind. It's speed feats show to be troubling towards enemies trying to attack themselves. Examples:
Kakashi himself Said he had no choice but to Teleport Susanoo Arrow:
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Susanoo Arrow is fast, Fast enough that Kakashi could no avoid and fast enough to interrupt Danzo's Handseals:
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Susanoo itself being able to withstand ninjutsu attacks from Kage levels at an incomplete form shows how much potential it has in it's final stage and his final stage has a Shield:
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That is alot of Defense Kakashi has to breach along with the struggle of trying to even get the Handseals finished before Susanoo Arrow Pierces him.
Sasuke possessing the Sharingan can see Kakashi's chakra flow and spot him underground.
Countering Kakashi Strategy:
Kakashi Strategy is to send in Shadow clones and even Shadow clones made of Lightng Nature, but this is simple counter by the fact Sasuke possess the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan which is know to read more of the Uchiha tablet which shows to have better reading/Predicting feats and also See through Wood Clones. Madara stated that with those eyes he could see through the 1st Hokages Wood Clones:
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It is known fact that Madara only possessed the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan when fighting the 1st Hokage.
Now I will leave it up to you to decide whether the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan can see through Kakashi's Shadow and Lighting Clones if it can see through the 1st Hokages Wood Clones. the 1st being a much more incredible being than Kakashi and Wood Clones being twice a Complex as Lighting Seeing as it Requires 2 Nature Transformations and Lighting on Requires 1, Shadows requiring none.
I just notice after making the post that you said Kakashi's Genjutsu doesn't match Sasuke's. Oops!:D
 
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check the wiki sasuke has more moves than that but did you forget sasuke can read all of kakashi's moves with his ems?
 
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