(Updated)Proof that kakashi>sasuke

[Unbiased]

In the fight against Kakuzu, apart from losing much chakra and panting a little for a few seconds afterwards, Kakashi was perfectly fine. So I guess stopping Kirin would exhaust him a little but he would be able to do this. Just as stated in the manga.

Besides, that's only a last resort defense, it's very difficult for Sasuke to launch Kirin to begin with.

Edit: Even panting was only anime exclusive. In the manga we have really no indication that Kakuzu's jutsu put any strain on Kakashi.

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I agree, but more then likely he will lose the fight if it comes to that. His gloves got burnt off from a B-rank technique, what do you think an S rank one hit kill technique that even itachi said he would of died from if it wasn't for susanoo do to his hands. I'm just putting things in perspective.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Yup if kakashi spams his moves he's better than sasuke but when sasuke spams his moves he sucks and he can't fight wow u ppl that agree are just dumb not even worth fighting about since sasuke is like the 1st main chara up there with naruto it doesn't make since to even say itachi > sasuke when all u ppl know he's one of the 1st main charas

 

[SAGA]

The lastest chapter is the kind of chapter that amkes you love more a character. Kakashi fan must have been going crazy reading the latest chapter doing all kinds of ''Faps''. I have to admit,Kakashi schools Sasuke.

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[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Kakashi's Raikiri>Kirin. Of course kamui here would be a stupid idea, but Kakashi's Raikiri can attract Kirin by acting as a lightning rod. And Raikiri was stated to break thunders.

first kakashi doesn't have the speed feat
second the attack is simply too massive
finally you do undertstand if this attraction bull you speak of happens its worst for kakashi now is defiantly unavoidable but sasuke controls it anyway

 

[Takos]

His gloves got burnt off from a B-rank technique,

That's because Kakashi used raikiri with his hands, not gloves.

what do you think an S rank one hit kill technique that even itachi said he would of died from

What do you mean by saying "even Itachi"? Is he some kind of
lightning-resistant guy or what?

first kakashi doesn't have the speed feat
second the attack is simply too massive
finally you do undertstand if this attraction bull you speak of happens its worst for kakashi now is defiantly unavoidable but sasuke controls it anyway

Here we go again. Kakashi's speed feat is being praised by Tobi and keeping up with 6 gated Guy. That's quite something.
The attack is as massive as any regular lightning, which was stated to be broken by Kakashi's Raikiri. So no, if Kirin hits Raikiri, then Kirin is gone.

 

[Rafeal brown]

Kakashi's Raikiri>Kirin. Of course kamui here would be a stupid idea, but Kakashi's Raikiri can attract Kirin by acting as a lightning rod. And Raikiri was stated to break thunders.

what are you talking about? You're trying to use physics concept in a manga/Anime?? Lol, you can as well try to explain how ninjas walk on walls or how amaterasu can't be put out by physical methods...
Even if kakashi could cut kirin as you claimed, it still isn't possible due to the speed at which the jutsu is performed... Kirin reaches the ground 1/1000 of a second...

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do you have the slightest idea of how fast that is? If you do then you wouldn't say kakashi can cut it... Not to mention, this is the same kakashi who had problems trying to evade susanoo arrows... so goodluck to him trying to cut through the fastest and most powerful lightning base jutsu in the series

 

[Takos]

what are you talking about? You're trying to use physics concept in a manga/Anime?? Lol, you can as well try to explain how ninjas walk on walls or how amaterasu can't be put out by physical methods...
Even if kakashi could cut kirin as you claimed, it still isn't possible due to the speed at which the jutsu is performed... Kirin reaches the ground 1/1000 of a second...

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do you have the slightest idea of how fast that is? If you do then you wouldn't say kakashi can cut it... Not to mention, this is the same kakashi who had problems trying to evade susanoo arrows... so goodluck to him trying to cut through the fastest and most powerful lightning base jutsu in the series

Well, yeah, I'm using physics concept in manga. Ninjas and their jutsu are the only thing magical in this world, the rest is as normal. Gravity somehow works? Well, it does. Heat somehow causes thunder storms? Well, it does. Now why shouldn't charge attraction work? Especially since thunder used in Kirin is not "magical", Kirin is simply directing an EXISTING lightning into the target, adding very little of his own chakra. It has all the properties of normal lightning. Get over it.

Oh, and as I said, Kakashi could simply use Raikiri and keep it "charged" before Kirin is launched. This way, no matter how fast it is, Kakashi will crack it.

How otherwise do you think Kakashi broke normal lightning back before part I? Its speed would be the same.

 

[Unbiased]

Well, yeah, I'm using physics concept in manga. Ninjas and their jutsu are the only thing magical in this world, the rest is as normal. Gravity somehow works? Well, it does. Heat somehow causes thunder storms? Well, it does. Now why shouldn't charge attraction work? Especially since thunder used in Kirin is not "magical", Kirin is simply directing an EXISTING lightning into the target, adding very little of his own chakra. It has all the properties of normal lightning. Get over it.

Oh, and as I said, Kakashi could simply use Raikiri and keep it "charged" before Kirin is launched. This way, no matter how fast it is, Kakashi will crack it.

How otherwise do you think Kakashi broke normal lightning back before part I? Its speed would be the same.

Itachi's word is credible so that's why I use him as a reference. Anyways he's not surviving a kirin with his bare hands just because he uses raikiri. Your comparing a B rank technique to an S rank one hit kill technique. And also, raikiri doesn't burn your gloves like you said, he has used it all the time, and the only time we've seen his gloves burn off is when kakuzu used a lightening attack against him.

 

[leeko]

no sasuke will beat kakashi

 

[Takos]

Itachi's word is credible so that's why I use him as a reference. Anyways he's not surviving a kirin with his bare hands just because he uses raikiri. Your comparing a B rank technique to an S rank one hit kill technique. And also, raikiri doesn't burn your gloves like you said, he has used it all the time, and the only time we've seen his gloves burn off is when kakuzu used a lightening attack against him.

You got a point with the gloves.
Still, since Kakashi was stated to be able to cut a lightning, I see no reason to believe he couldn't cut Kirin. S-rank jutsu or not, I don't think it was mentioned in the manga to be more powerful than regular lightning. Find me the scan and I will admit I was wrong.

Edit: Out of topic, as Kirin doesn't seem to be more powerful than regular lightning it seems kind of ironic that it's so powerful. After all, in reality people get hit by lightnings and survive. Maybe Kirin indeed is stronger? Still, as for now I see no reason to believe that.

 

[Rafeal brown]

Well, yeah, I'm using physics concept in manga. Ninjas and their jutsu are the only thing magical in this world, the rest is as normal. Gravity somehow works? Well, it does. Heat somehow causes thunder storms? Well, it does. Now why shouldn't charge attraction work? Especially since thunder used in Kirin is not "magical", Kirin is simply directing an EXISTING lightning into the target. It has all the properties of normal lightning. Get over it.

*signs*... You don't get it, do you?
The point here is that kishi doesn't pay attention to such details so that's definitely not legit and can't be used as a FACT.... Besides there are few things physics won't agree too... Like amaterasu being as hot as the sun? Flames of such heat would definitely incinerate the narutoverse, which is yet to happen after countless usage of it..... So No, No and No... Those logic are not acceptable...

 

[Takos]

*signs*... You don't get it, do you?
The point here is that kishi doesn't pay attention to such details so that's definitely not legit and can't be used as a FACT.... Besides there are few things physics won't agree too... Like amaterasu being as hot as the sun? Flames of such heat would definitely incinerate the narutoverse, which is yet to happen after countless usage of it..... So No, No and No... Those logic are not acceptable...

You cannot say that something's not true just because you think Kishi didn't pay attention to it.

As for Amaterasu, it can be possible if Ama's heat is contained in the flame and not let out. As I said, jutsu are magical things in Narutoverse and Amaterasu is a jutsu, whereas Kirin is a regular lightning.

 

[Unbiased]

You got a point with the gloves.
Still, since Kakashi was stated to be able to cut a lightning, I see no reason to believe he couldn't cut Kirin. S-rank jutsu or not, I don't think it was mentioned in the manga to be more powerful than regular lightning. Find me the scan and I will admit I was wrong.

Edit: Out of topic, as Kirin doesn't seem to be more powerful than regular lightning it seems kind of ironic that it's so powerful. After all, in reality people get hit by lightnings and survive. Maybe Kirin indeed is stronger? Still, as for now I see no reason to believe that.

The fact that its destruction is comparable to rasen shuriken is proof enough. Normal lightening bolts don't blow up buildings lol. I think we have a mis understanding though, as i'm arguing that kakashi cannot charge a raikiri and survive a direct hit from kirin.

Lets just use a car battery for example. Car batteries are constantly being recharged by the alternator, but being drained by the vehicle. If you over charge the battery, it will explode. Same concept applies here. I'm not saying kakashi will explode as a human being and a car battery consist of different properties, but if you over load something, it will not last. Like a cup of water, you can't overfill a cup of water without it spilling out. If kakashi doesn't die from kirin while using raikiri, his hands will be blown off. Seeing what a B rank technique does, and what kirin did to a building, I think its safe to assume he hands would be blown off.

 

[Takos]

The fact that its destruction is comparable to rasen shuriken is proof enough. Normal lightening bolts don't blow up buildings lol. I think we have a mis understanding though, as i'm arguing that kakashi cannot charge a raikiri and survive a direct hit from kirin.

Lets just use a car battery for example. Car batteries are constantly being recharged by the alternator, but being drained by the vehicle. If you over charge the battery, it will explode. Same concept applies here. I'm not saying kakashi will explode as a human being and a car battery consist of different properties, but if you over load something, it will not last. Like a cup of water, you can't overfill a cup of water without it spilling out. If kakashi doesn't die from kirin while using raikiri, his hands will be blown off. Seeing what a B rank technique does, and what kirin did to a building, I think its safe to assume he hands would be blown off.

Maybe... I'm not really convinced, but I admit that this is a possibility. Rep+ for you. Assuming Kakashi can't break Kirin, I guess his only chance is having a kage bushin out before Kirin is launched and tricking Sasuke with it.

 

[Mystical Ninja]

Proof that kakashi greater than sasuke.
Kaakshi's Abilities
Copying Jutsus
Kakashi Hatake also known as copy ninja and elite is a main charachter of the series Naruto and Naruto
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shippuden. He is known all over the World for his mongekyo sharingan(a special eye of a special family uchiha). He is known as copy ninja to copy over thousands of jutsus.
S/t Techniques
Kakashi is also able to use a space time technique kamui that can transport objects. He can take this advantage fighting Sasuke.
Mongekyo Sharingan
Kakashi also has a mongekyo Sharingan. He can easily see how fast sasuke is moving.
Natures
As he has copied over thousands of jutsus, he has mastered five natures, fire, lightning, wind, earth and water. He can use all these as an advantage against Sasuke.
Lightning Master
Kakashi has mastered lightning nature of which, he uses an S-Rank Technique Raikiri and an A-RAnk technique Chidori.
Fire Release
Kakashi is also very good in fire release and uses uchiha's special fireball technique.
Water Release
Kakashi is also a master in water. He can use siz water techniques:

Hiding in a mist technique
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Great Waterfall Technique
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Shark Bullet Technique
Earth Release
Kakashi has also been a good in earth release. he copied earth techniques from earth users from all over the world. He has been shown using following earth techniques:
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Wind Release
Kakashi also uses an A-Rank wind release technique rasengan which is in the same way as chidori.
Taijutsu
kakashi has proven to be very adept in taijutsu, which, combined with his impressive speed, allows him to effectively catch his opponents off guard and evade attacks. His hand seal prowess has also been noted as very great, as he is able to use high-level techniques with few hand seals and perform them at highly difficult speeds to follow.
Eight gates
Kakashi had also unlocked the first two of the eight gates so he can also use the in his battle with sasuke.

Speed
Kakashi has been on the 9/10th level of speed. He was as fast as couldn't even be approched by sasuke. He was shown many times greater than Sasuke.
Combos
Kakashi also uses many taijutsu combos which are:
Silent Killing
Strong Fist
Lotus Front

Genjutsu
Kakashi also uses some genjutsus but they won't stand a chance against Sasuke.

Sasuke's Abilities
Sasuke has very less jutsus as compared to Kakashi.
Amaterasu
Amaterasu is a special ability and highest level of fire release used by Uchiha. Sasuke can use this technique on kakashi but he would use his s/t kamui to blow it away or at least dodge it.
Tsukuyomi
Kakashi has once expirienced tsukuyomi and won't look into sasuke's eye.
Susanoo
Susanoo is the only thing that would help sasuke in his battle with kakashi.
But Kakashi has thousands of jutsus and use them like danzo put a crack on susanoo.
Fire Release
Kakashi will easily dodge Sasuke's Fire release techniques.
Kirin
Kakashi will use his kamui to defend from kirin.
Chidori
Kakashi has a better tech raikiri in the same way.

Kakashi is all this plus ten times more

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

6 gates don't mean he is runnin full speed doesn't even mean much since tobi can see all the movements of the 4 characters he is facing

tobi praised sasuke as well so what is the point they cancle that 1 feat out but sasuke still is widely respected for his speed

that shit aint regular lightning your just a troll it destroyed a f.....g mountain and last time i checked it wasn't comfirmed that kakashi actually did it its said he did it but he couldn't cut arrow or even strike deva path

these threads gott me bout really expose kakashi for the lame chump he is if u pay attention to the manga there's a lot of shit kakashi ****ed up

 

[Rafeal brown]

You cannot say that something's not true just because you think Kishi didn't pay attention to it.

As for Amaterasu, it can be possible if Ama's heat is contained in the flame and not let out. As I said, jutsu are magical things in Narutoverse and Amaterasu is a jutsu, whereas Kirin is a regular lightning.

okay, all that aside but i don't think kirin is a "regular lightning".... Kirin was power enough to obliterate itachi's susanoo, his akatsuki cloak and the uchiha hide out... That's doesn't seem like a regular lightning, does it?

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^^here... Two jutsu of the same nature transformation(element) will cancel each other out if the same amount of chakra was put in them... That's how kakashi managed to cut through kakuzu's lightning... Mean while kirin is so powerful that it'll take an unbelievable amount of chakra if performed with a ninjas chakra... And that's why sasuke had to use nature's chakra to perform it.. So yes, for kakashi to cut kirin he needs atleast the same amount of chakra kirin consumes... Now, when did kakashi become a chakra monster? And how will he pull out such massive chakra?

 

[thedesolator]

This my friend is a dead thread.. if kakshi copied the techs, so can sasuke -- not to mention sasuke has better manipulation than even orchi.
The only thing kakashi has that sasuke doesnt is experience and kamui

 

[Takos]

6 gates don't mean he is runnin full speed doesn't even mean much since tobi can see all the movements of the 4 characters he is facing

tobi praised sasuke as well so what is the point they cancle that 1 feat out but sasuke still is widely respected for his speed

that shit aint regular lightning your just a troll it destroyed a f.....g mountain and last time i checked it wasn't comfirmed that kakashi actually did it its said he did it but he couldn't cut arrow or even strike deva path

these threads gott me bout really expose kakashi for the lame chump he is if u pay attention to the manga there's a lot of shit kakashi ****ed up

If you've read the last chapters and still think Kakashi is "a lame chump" then there is no salvation for you and I'm better off arguing with the wall.

Seriously, such a statement is like saying that Itachi is fodder. :sy:

This my friend is a dead thread.. if kakshi copied the techs, so can sasuke -- not to mention sasuke has better manipulation than even orchi.
The only thing kakashi has that sasuke doesnt is experience and kamui

Bullshit, Sasuke's copying is limited to some genin taijutsu moves - which were later replicated by Naruto, without any Sharingan.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

lame chump saved by two 12 year olds
lame chump always get saved by naruto
lame chump last chap proved it again froze up in the heat of battle smh
lame chump got smashed by itachi worst than sasuke did
lame chump pissed his self when oro ran up

i got more but it may come off as if i actually hate the chump which i don't