[UPDATE] Top 5 strongest HST characters.(Please Read)

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SSJ3 Goku beats all of them, so yeah, God Goku who is more then a thousand times stronger destroys those Marel clowns.
rofl no the hell he doesn't. Flash in the speed force would destroy Ssj3 Goku. Prime Superman would also wreck SSJ3 Goku. And lets not even talk about Anti-moniter and how bad he destroys Goku.

And then this guy just destroys goku with just clapping his hands. Correction : He destroys the entire DBZ-verse with just clapping his hands.

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What people need to understand is that Beerus is only like... Planet level+ (he can only manage one planet at a time.)

Umineko characters toss around Multiple UNIVERSES and play with reality FOR FUN. They can also jump between said universes as much as they like and even hold them in their hands... DBZ is baby mode compared to the nonsense that is Umineko. Goku is not touching them, anything he does is obviously tanked (one of them literally tanked a big bang from inside of her body...)

Like I said, you don't understand...
SSJ1 Goku with a kamehameha charged a few seconds was a Solar System buster. Bills sneezed, a kai ball (not charged, just resonating from his body,) flew out and destroyed a Star. Freeza casually destroyed planets in his basic form. Vegeta was a hardened planet buster with a PL of 18,000.

They can plow through different worlds, have such densely packed Ki that, while some blasts may lack girth and width to catch other celestial bodies in them, they can effortlessly destroy ANYTHING in the Universe. This is by Frieza's first form, they achieved this. Not seeing how Bills can't stomp all over the fictional verse.
 

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rofl no the hell he doesn't. Flash in the speed force would destroy Ssj3 Goku. Prime Superman would also wreck SSJ3 Goku. And lets not even talk about Anti-moniter and how bad he destroys Goku.

And then this guy just destroys goku with just clapping his hands. Correction : He destroys the entire DBZ-verse with just clapping his hands.

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Do your lies know any limits? Embrace what Akira Toyirama has given us, the greatest fictional device known to human, namekian, and Saiyan kind.
 

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Do your lies know any limits? Embrace what Akira Toyirama has given us, the greatest fictional device known to human, namekian, and Saiyan kind.
Sure, but doesn't change the fact Superman stomps all over Goku. And then heals him, so anti-moniter can proceed to stomp Goku.. and then he heals Goku so the f*cked from gurren , erase Goku's existance.
 

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SSJ1 Goku with a kamehameha charged a few seconds was a Solar System buster. Bills sneezed, a kai ball (not charged, just resonating from his body,) flew out and destroyed a Star. Freeza casually destroyed planets in his basic form. Vegeta was a hardened planet buster with a PL of 18,000.

They can plow through different worlds, have such densely packed Ki that, while some blasts may lack girth and width to catch other celestial bodies in them, they can effortlessly destroy ANYTHING in the Universe. This is by Frieza's first form, they achieved this. Not seeing how Bills can't stomp all over the fictional verse.
PLANETS are NOTHING to these people, again you are just not understanding. These characters toss MULTIPLE UNIVERSES at people. Big bangs, my friend. Also the ability they have to casually jump between universes and a higher plain of existence called the Metaverse gives them speeds that are literally incomprehensible by man, putting light to shame. Goku and his friends would be dead before they even freaking blinked.
 

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No you are mistaken, this is democratic propaganda not communist spread lies.
Even the Nazi's wouldn't try to put Akira's work down. How low have you fallen, KingH?
PLANETS are NOTHING to these people, again you are just not understanding. These characters toss MULTIPLE UNIVERSES at people. Big bangs, my friend. Also the ability they have to casually jump between universes and a higher plain of existence called the Metaverse gives them speeds that are literally incomprehensible by man, putting light to shame. Goku and his friends would be dead before they even freaking blinked.
Planets have been nothing since DB chapter 187, page 5 when vegeta declared, when weakened and I quote "I will destroy this world and everyone on it!!!" They are only limited, on lower levels (Pre-Frieza appearance) by how much they can manifest, but their power is so overwhelming by that point that destroying worlds, Suns, planets are such casual acts it's a shame to even put that as a limit or a substantial feat. It'd be like popping a balloon for us, for Captain Ginyu to destroy a world.

SSJ 2 Goku/SSJ3 Goku move so quickly, they constantly find themselves entering in different realities where the same outcome is happening, just slightly different. Which is why Goku does not lose, but that's another theory for another time. Goku moves 3.6789 million times the speed of light in SSJ3, yet alone God form.

It's simple algebra. Goku+SSJ3+The fictional world-Morals = Devastation we've never been meant to witness.
 
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Because Nazi are fodder in front of americans. Nazi are too scared of Akira, while we americans own Akira. :heh:
You give Americans a bad name, then. Akira gave America the hero she needed, deserved, and even started Anime. Everything modern cartoons have is given by the great SunWukon.

Respect him, for he gave us his boon without even an ounce of greed.
 

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Even the Nazi's wouldn't try to put Akira's work down. How low have you fallen, KingH?


Planets have been nothing since DB chapter 187, page 5 when vegeta declared, when weakened and I quote "I will destroy this world and everyone on it!!!" They are only limited, on lower levels (Pre-Frieza appearance) by how much they can manifest, but their power is so overwhelming by that point that destroying worlds, Suns, planets are such casual acts it's a shame to even put that as a limit or a substantial feat. It'd be like popping a balloon for us, for Captain Ginyu to destroy a world.

SSJ 2 Goku/SSJ3 Goku move so quickly, they constantly find themselves entering in different realities where the same outcome is happening, just slightly different. Which is why Goku does not lose, but that's another theory for another time. Goku moves 3.6789 million times the speed of light in SSJ3, yet alone God form.

It's simple algebra. Goku+SSJ3+The fictional world-Morals=Devastation we've never been meant to witness.
Smfh are all DBZ fans like this...? Or are you just pulling my leg right now? Or are you simply just ignoring the fact that multiple universal destruction/reality warping is just far more powerful than anything in the DBZ verse...?
 

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DBZ does all of that though, and more.
Umineko does it better + most of the Witches are Conceptual beings and cannot be killed by ordinary means unlike DBZ. Call me when any DBZ tanks a big bang to the face because that's what they're gonna get or worse if they fight Featherine. Also they have things like Probability manipulation, Instant nigh-omni time stop, Author Authority...

I seriously think you need to look up Umineko on VS Wiki or something lol. Trying to even compare DBZ for them is ridiculous and I feel crazy for even arguing this with you when there's nothing to debate.
 

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Umineko does it better + most of the Witches are Conceptual beings and cannot be killed by ordinary means unlike DBZ. Call me when any DBZ tanks a big bang to the face because that's what they're gonna get or worse if they fight Featherine. Also they have things like Probability manipulation, Instant nigh-omni time stop, Author Authority...

I seriously think you need to look up Umineko on VS Wiki or something lol. Trying to even compare DBZ for them is ridiculous and I feel crazy for even arguing this with you when there's nothing to debate.
Dead angle bgm 4 the win.

And Big Bangs are nothing, Buu, Golden Frieza, Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Whiso, all can tank a Big Bang attack with small damage. You'll need something better than that. This attack hasn't been shit since Android 19 died.

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If Umnieko is only SSJ Vegeta level, lawd. Is it in trouble.
 

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Omfg PLEASE educate yourself.



Also, is Vegeta CREATING/DESTROYING entire universes (Multiple Galaxies, Solar Systems, etc?) NO. Smfh sit down please lol.
 

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I mean, it's really just Vegeta's Universe, they're just living it. Everything that changes or occurs is only due to his will consciously or unconsciously changing it. Vegeta WAS the big bang. Though, I personally subscribe to the theory of two bangs, and it being more of a rapid expansion than a literal explosion. Seeing as the first bang was a small one, relatively, giving the particles time to interact and latch on to make different chemicals, before a larger bang or expansion spread them out. It's sort of the modern Big Bang theory, but the name sticks regardless.


I shall edit this tomorrow, just looking at the name and I can see some flaws. Firstly, there isn't a spec of DB anywhere. Not acceptable.
A source not from DB Wikia said:
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Umineko_no_Naku_Koro_ni
 
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