Update: Accurate Power progression between Naruto and Sasuke

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Lol I guess there's nothing else to say...

Sorry I know "strength feats" I don't even consider anything either did a feat in that movie a elderly danzo kicked kurin at the speed of sound lol, and "speed feats" NOthing in that movie compared to either raikage or KCM mode naruto appeared to be speed wise in the anime it was just a well animated fight scene
 

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Sorry I know "strength feats" I don't even consider anything either did a feat in that movie a elderly danzo kicked kurin at the speed of sound lol, and "speed feats" NOthing in that movie compared to either raikage or KCM mode naruto appeared to be speed wise in the anime it was just a well animated fight scene

Lol. Yea animation gets all the credit lol..
Hopefully the manga will shed light for you.
 

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Lol. Yea animation gets all the credit lol..
Hopefully the manga will shed light for you.

Bruh don't be in denial, neither naruto or Sasuke looked faster then the raikage in the movie, and in the manga danzo still kicked the pants out of kurin and he's at least 70 considering he was hiruzens rival. Not fapping once but the only real feat was Sasuke fighting kinshiki and cutting his horn, how he got away is beyond me, naruto tanking the TBB, and yes tank any othe character would've been blown away he protected the village don't try and discredit that Sasuke wouldn't have been able to do that, "preta" yeah if he could've he would've, and then boruto and that rasengan
 

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Bruh don't be in denial, neither naruto or Sasuke looked faster then the raikage in the movie, and in the manga danzo still kicked the pants out of kurin and he's at least 70 considering he was hiruzens rival. Not fapping once but the only real feat was Sasuke fighting kinshiki and cutting his horn, how he got away is beyond me, naruto tanking the TBB, and yes tank any othe character would've been blown away he protected the village don't try and discredit that Sasuke wouldn't have been able to do that, "preta" yeah if he could've he would've, and then boruto and that rasengan
Lol Sasuke was moving so fast he was a blur and leaving lighting and fire streaks behind.. Raikage didn't show anything close to that, you're the one in denial.
I'm not going to entertain the Danzou BS.
Sasuke used Ameno to cut of Kinshiki's horn.
Tanked? No lol. And you have no idea what Sasuke is capable of.
 

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Lol yea excuses lol.. Kishi over your dumb ass opinion.. Adult Sasuke is equal to RSM Naruto.. Kishi>> you.

Lmao cry some more you retard.

So V3 with CM is equal to BSM? Does that mean, then, that PS>BSM? Because Kurama's chakra is not stronger than Sasuke's chakra, as he himself admits, so his chakra would do nothing to Sasuke's Susunoo, which comes from the strength of Sasuke's chakra.

No, it means that what Naruto showed during that fight=What Sasuke showed during that fight. :lol Try again.

And like the rest of Sasuke fanboys in this thread you pulled this straight out of your ass. Sasuke's chakra was never stated to be stronger than Kurama's. Sasuke's V3 Susanoo on his own isn't as strong as it was with the cloak. That's a fact.

It isn't because that's what you're assuming, whether you know it or not. You're previous comment argues that Sasuke=Ashura mode Naruto doesn't make sense to you, therefore, it's not what Kishi meant "Saying "Sasuke=Ashura Mode Naruto" is based on little to nothing and definitely not more than what the opposite conclusion has for support.", and even in your latest post "you just believe it's Ashura Mode Naruto when supporting evidence disagrees."That, therefore, means that you assume Kishimoto actually thought about which powers he would make them use in order for them to be equal in the movie, just as you look at feats. Not only that, it's begging the question, i.e. you're assuming the answer to the very question we're arguing about.

No, if you could read and debate honestly instead of twisting my words and overcomplicating everything about the argument to hide the fact that you have none of your own, you wouldn't be spewing this nonsense. Kishimoto doesn't religiously need to pay attention to the powers of his characters, but he does pay attention to the powers of his characters and that's a fact. So please don't try to argue against it.

Feats are what i'm talking about. When Kishimoto made each power up he wasn't worried about how fast each one is going to make them, or how well it work against the other opponent. This is seen throughout both the movie and the manga, where abilities are thrown out or forgotten to keep the story moving forward.

Which is irrelevant to the point. And 100% false. I don't give a damn about how detailed you think Kishimoto pays or fails to pay attention to the powers of his characters.

-Does he pay attention to the power of his characters in general? Yes. He does. That's a fact. All this other irrelevant shit you are mentioning is just irrelevant shit.


You're argument is basically that Kishimoto meant those characters at that point because he wrote it in a guide about the movie.

No shit. Let's try using our brains. If Kishimoto says "Naruto=Sasuke" in a Boruto the Movie Booklet guide, then he's saying in the movie Naruto and Sasuke are equal. The casual fan will watch the movie, see Naruto and Sasuke perform and then say "They are equal". Quit trying to overcomplicate shit. It won't get you anywhere.


But you don't take into account anything else, which is kind of like jumping to a conclusion. No, the casual audience won't just see the movie and forget about the abilities Naruto used in the manga. They won't forget that Naruto can use SM with Kurama. For all they know he was using it in the movie. People take a quote and ignore what else happened, which is why a fan like Forneverworld, or Sawyer7mage can believe that Sasuke lost VOTE 2, even though both characters were in the same state at the end of the fight. It's also why people here have the ability to make fun of someone for not knowing something. Casual fans aren't as attentive, nor are they going to argue about things like this. In fact, to my knowledge, you're the only one who even thought this way, which doesn't mean you're wrong on it's own, but it does mean that most people thought that it was meant in general, even here on NB, where most people aren't casual fans.

How is the bold relevant? The casual fan doesn't need to forget the abilities Naruto used in the Manga. They will see Naruto and Sasuke perform in the movie, refer to the guidebook and come to the conclusion that Boruto Movie Naruto and Boruto Movie Sasuke are equal. Nothing more, nothing less.

You start talking about how casual fans aren't as attentive yet their attentiveness towards the powers Naruto and Sasuke used in the Manga is a point needed to help your ridiculous argument. :lol


And again, there is literally no reason for someone to come to that same conclusion as you did, unless they had some interest in the power of each character, which neither casual, nor Kishimoto have.

Lmao and again, you sound ridiculous and make no sense. If a casual fan who only read the Manga and watched the movie read the guide, they'd come to the conclusion that Naruto in the Movie=Sasuke in the movie as that statement was made in a movie guide. Why is that concept so hard for you to wrap your head around? Walls of unnecessary text aren't going to change that.
 

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Lol Sasuke was moving so fast he was a blur and leaving lighting and fire streaks behind.. Raikage didn't show anything close to that, you're the one in denial.
I'm not going to entertain the Danzou BS.
Sasuke used Ameno to cut of Kinshiki's horn.
Tanked? No lol. And you have no idea what Sasuke is capable of.
Bro you sound like the ultimate anime nerd "so fast he left streaks of fire and lightning!" You mean slower then someone who leaves no trace of their movement behind....? The danzo bs is real that's why you won't entertain it, and yeah naruto tanked it we clearly can tell Sasuke had no response to it or he would've done something lol don't be mad I'm giving Sasuke the same credit as naruto
 

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Great response.. But I'm going with the Arthur/creator/writer/artist over a clown full of assumptions.. Give Kishi a call if you don't like that they are equal.. Again, Kishi >>> you.. Sorry for the trouble.
 

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1 armed Sasuke = Adult Naruto.
 

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RSM Naruto isn't superior to Rinnegan Sasuke. I have yet to see anything even remotely canonical on this front. There is no difference between BSM and BM Naruto other than fan-perpetuated nonsense. All it does is breach the black orbs defences. I have never watched The Last, so, I cannot comment. EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto are definitely equal. What else? More or less agreed, I guess.
 

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Great response.. But I'm going with the Arthur/creator/writer/artist over a clown full of assumptions.. Give Kishi a call if you don't like that they are equal.. Again, Kishi >>> you.. Sorry for the trouble.

Ironic coming from the guy who thinks Sasuke can make Bijuu Susanoo w/o the Bijuu because "lol big chakra". :lol Delusional fanboys kill me.
 

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Bro you sound like the ultimate anime nerd "so fast he left streaks of fire and lightning!" You mean slower then someone who leaves no trace of their movement behind....? The danzo bs is real that's why you won't entertain it, and yeah naruto tanked it we clearly can tell Sasuke had no response to it or he would've done something lol don't be mad I'm giving Sasuke the same credit as naruto
Lol I bet your are one of those people who believes Sasuke is dead because Naruto is presumed dead.. Tanked =/= captured.
 

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What the heck is a Bijuu Susano'o? It's PS simply changed into a container or a Mezo. It's a molded shape. You don't require Bijuu chakra to create it bar Indra's arrow.
 

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Ironic coming from the guy who thinks Sasuke can make Bijuu Susanoo w/o the Bijuu because "lol big chakra". :lol Delusional fanboys kill me.

Didn't think I would had to explain this to you but oh well.. It's because of the kind of chakra not how big it is.. Come on man... You can do better than that.
 
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Lol I bet your are one of those people who believes Sasuke is dead because Naruto is presumed dead.. Tanked =/= captured.

No, taking a TBB that big and preventing the village being destroyed is tanking it lmfao, and no I don't think sasuke's dead why would I there's not proof I'm not into hypothetical bs like all these fanboys, btw just watched the fight, Sasuke just spun around kinshiki to cut his horn off no amenooo so you don't know what you're talking about and he's your fav jeez
 

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What the heck is a Bijuu Susano'o? It's PS simply changed into a container or a Mezo. It's a molded shape. You don't require Bijuu chakra to create it bar Indra's arrow.

They'll never understand that.
 

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Didn't think I would had to explain why this to you but oh well.. It's because of the kind of chakra not how big it is.. Come on man... You can do better than that.

Don't bother. You've explained it enough times for me to know that you don't make any sense and that you have no idea how Ninjutsu or chakra potency work. That's why you sit here typing this idiotic nonsense about Sasuke adding more of his chakra to make up for the Bijuu even though in terms of power Sasuke+Juubi's (9 Bijuu merged together) chakra>>>Sasuke's chakra alone.

But oh wait, your explanation for that is probably going to be "Hahaha my God Sasuke's chakra potency grew so much that it makes up for the lack of the Juubi's chakra". :lol Delusional. I don't care if you think that Sasuke can change the shape of his Susanoo. (he already did in the movie)

It being as powerful as when he used the Bijuu's power is just more nonsense.
 

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No, taking a TBB that big and preventing the village being destroyed is tanking it lmfao, and no I don't think sasuke's dead why would I there's not proof I'm not into hypothetical bs like all these fanboys, btw just watched the fight, Sasuke just spun around kinshiki to cut his horn off no amenooo so you don't know what you're talking about and he's your fav jeez
Lol watch it again and again until you see he didn't spin lol.
 

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Don't bother. You've explained it enough times for me to know that you don't make any sense and that you have no idea how Ninjutsu or chakra potency work. That's why you sit here typing this idiotic nonsense about Sasuke adding more of his chakra to make up for the Bijuu even though in terms of power Sasuke+Juubi's (9 Bijuu merged together) chakra>>>Sasuke's chakra alone.

But oh wait, your explanation for that is probably going to be "Hahaha my God Sasuke's chakra potency grew so much that it makes up for the lack of the Juubi's chakra". :lol Delusional. I don't care if you think that Sasuke can change the shape of his Susanoo. (he already did in the movie)

It being as powerful as when he used the Bijuu's power is just more nonsense.

Lol I knew you understand, you play to much lol.
Sasuke's chakra potency didn't grow at all. His over all chakra did hence why he's able to make portals now.. But I'm sure you know that lol.
 
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