Unrestricted Rikudou Madara vs Momoshiki combined Kinishiki

[KidGamer65]

RSM Teen Naruto (and not Kid Naruto) against Madara was fully powered... Against Momo he was weakened. Limbos also are no joke. I don't see Momo win in taijutsu against 4 Limbos and with Madara using taijutsu too or a jutsu. Naruto's clones vanished after fighting sometime with the Limbo ones. 2 out of 4 Limbo's pushed Naruto and Sasuke back...

Momo has the true Preat Path because his ability is in fact what preta can do unrestricted... Also to point something out. His right hand absorbs techs.. Cut it or make it dissappear with Gudoma and Momo gets stomped.

He had his chakra drained, but then got chakra from Kurama to enter RSM. So weakened? Nah, if it was, nothing that'd make him inferior to his kid self in physical ability.

And yeah, cut it and he loses, but:

1. He'd be unable to do that in CQC since he's far inferior to Momoshiki in that regard.
2. It's not even close to being necessary, and is just a roundabout way of winning when in reality Deva Path for offense and Susanoo for defense is all he needs to whoop Momoshiki regardless of his ability to absorb chakra.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

He had his chakra drained, but then got chakra from Kurama to enter RSM. So weakened? Nah, if it was, nothing that'd make him inferior to his kid self in physical ability.

And yeah, cut it and he loses, but:

1. He'd be unable to do that in CQC since he's far inferior to Momoshiki in that regard.
2. It's not even close to being necessary, and is just a roundabout way of winning when in reality Deva Path for offense and Susanoo for defense is all he needs to whoop Momoshiki regardless of his ability to absorb chakra.

He was weakened from the Bijuu extraction... Yes he got chakra from Kurama but still. Didn't say inferior but was in a weak mode... I wouldn't take 4 Limbo lightly though... Yeah, he doesn't need to cut his hand to win... Just pointed this. Even with it Madara wins.

Yeah like you said in the Momo was overated... Only his absorption was a threat but it can be countered.

 

[NextGenNinja]

His right hand absorbs techs.. Cut it or make it dissappear with Gudoma and Momo gets stomped. You can attack with strong jutsu and while he tries to absrob it through another jutsu and Momo gets defeated. Quad Juubi Dama is strong and Momo will try to absrorb one and the 2-3 will oblitarate him...

Oh well. I already agreed that momo loses so :|

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Oh well. I already agreed that momo loses so :|

I know just pointing things...

 

[NextGenNinja]

I know just pointing things...

Uh huh :|

 

[PIOLO]

Nah, but I actually didn't think about the shockwave. Momoshiki shouldn't be able to absorb it as it's not chakra. As for Taijutsu, if Kid Naruto and clones can match Madara and Limbo in CQC, while Momoshiki can:

-React to an attempted Ameno blitz while Madara failed to do so.
-Take on Adult Naruto (who is>>Kid Naruto) and Adult Sasuke (who is equal to Adult Naruto) in Taijutsu there's no way Madara beats him, even w/ Limbo's help.

And Momoshiki has the Rinnegan, so he should have Rikudo's chakra.

But yeah, I should've known that Momoshiki would be overrated the moment we got details of his abilities and confirmation that he's not on Kaguya's level. The absorption of techniques is why he's a B to defeat, but if you can use techs far stronger than Naruto's Avatar or Sasuke's PS, but in a form where it can't be absorbed, Momoshiki isn't tough to beat. He can't get past Madara's Susanoo, nor can he take Madara's attacks.

agreed... but there is a lot in difference between their battle tactics, in which i could say that madara has an edge. He always carefully think the best and effective way to beat in his opponent while setting up a back-up and formulate like what he does to analyze their power in sasuke and naruto before it starts. Do you think that is possible for madara to use his brain in this situation? remember that madara never belittle his opponents weak or strong

 

[KidGamer65]

agreed... but there is a lot in difference between their battle tactics, in which i could say that madara has an edge. He always carefully think the best and effective way to beat in his opponent while setting up a back-up and formulate like what he does to analyze their power in sasuke and naruto before it starts. Do you think that is possible for madara to use his brain in this situation? remember that madara never belittle his opponents weak or strong

I mean, there's not much room for his brain to help when it's just fist to fist, Limbo vs. Momoshiki. If you don't have the ability to contend, you won't be able to contend. Madara using his brain would be for him not to engage Momoshiki in raw Taijutsu and rely on heavy attacks that he can't absorb.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Madara takes this

He had his chakra drained, but then got chakra from Kurama to enter RSM. So weakened? Nah, if it was, nothing that'd make him inferior to his kid self in physical ability.

And yeah, cut it and he loses, but:

1. He'd be unable to do that in CQC since he's far inferior to Momoshiki in that regard.
2. It's not even close to being necessary, and is just a roundabout way of winning when in reality Deva Path for offense and Susanoo for defense is all he needs to whoop Momoshiki regardless of his ability to absorb chakra.

Does Naruto enter RSM again in the movie?

That and from the cam rips I saw their Taijutsu didn't look much better if at all. The only thing I took away from it was that Naruto used Sasuke's sword better than the latter ever has.

I'm starting to question how much stronger they got after VOTE2 as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara takes this


Does Naruto enter RSM again in the movie?

Yeah. No pigmentation around his eyes.

 

[lndra]

Madara wins

 

[Kagustuchi]

Yeah. No pigmentation around his eyes.

Sweeeeeeeeeet, so I guess he was still recovering his Rikudo chakra in the last. I don't know how to explain Gaiden though

 

[KidGamer65]

Sweeeeeeeeeet, so I guess he was still recovering his Rikudo chakra in the last. I don't know how to explain Gaiden though

He didn't have pigmentation around his eyes in Gaiden either.

That and from the cam rips I saw their Taijutsu didn't look much better if at all. The only thing I took away from it was that Naruto used Sasuke's sword better than the latter ever has.

And lol. I really hope you are joking with the bold. All Naruto did was strike and block against Momoshiki. His Kenjutsu skill based on that event alone is barely above average. What Sasuke did a few minutes later is already better than what Naruto did against Momoshiki.

As for their Taijutsu, what feat in the Manga or in The Last puts their Taijutsu at a level like that? Either way, the only real way to tell a difference would be to look at the boost in their physical abilities.

 

[Kagustuchi]

He didn't have pigmentation around his eyes in Gaiden either.




And lol. I really hope you are joking with the bold. All Naruto did was strike and block against Momoshiki. His Kenjutsu skill based on that event alone is barely above average. What Sasuke did a few minutes later is already better than what Naruto did against Momoshiki.

As for their Taijutsu, what feat in the Manga or in The Last puts their Taijutsu at a level like that? Either way, the only real way to tell a difference would be to look at the boost in their physical abilities.

It was a pretty shitty camrip, I remeber Sasuke attacking with his sword then it getting repelled and Naruto swipes it and has a few exchanges with him using it

How were their feats against Momoshiki really all that impressive though? Was Momoshiki supposed to be good at Taijutsu?

In terms of skill I really don't see how they that much better. Maybe they got stronger, but that's not a testament to their skill. They've shown skillfully Taijutsu all throughout part 2

 

[KidGamer65]

It was a pretty shitty camrip, I remeber Sasuke attacking with his sword then it getting repelled and Naruto swipes it and has a few exchanges with him using it

How were their feats against Momoshiki really all that impressive though? Was Momoshiki supposed to be good at Taijutsu?

In terms of skill I really don't see how they that much better. Maybe they got stronger, but that's not a testament to their skill. They've shown skillfully Taijutsu all throughout part 2

Naruto swiped at him like twice or three times, and his movements didn't even look that refined.

In terms of skill? I can agree that the difference doesn't really seem noticeable. In terms of strength? Yeah, that's my main point. Not sure if Momoshiki is good at Taijutsu, but when it comes to physical ability he's way up there since he can react to Ameno.