[Discussion] Unohana vs Aizen

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Who do you think would win? I personaaly don't know. It seems like she could counter Kyoka Suigetsu like Genrayusai did with ease. She's only had one wound put on her ever, even Aizen forces knew what was up.

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Not going to include transcended being on this one. It would be too one-sided, lts's keep ths fun.
 

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Aizen > Unohana.

Aizen appreantly feared her.

He tried to lock her in Las Noches

Completely ignored her when she entered the battlefield.

He had to have warned his forces about her, they didn't even try her. Even his bony hollow army left her alone.
 

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hmm thats tough probly aizen. but now i think current zaraki >aizen
 

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You gotta understand that in terms of Kenjutsu, Unohana is the most lethal one out there, but Aizen just has too much going for him despite her being the better pound for pound fighter. There is a reason she didn't fight him back in the fake karukura town.
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You gotta understand that in terms of Kenjutsu, Unohana is the most lethal one out there, but Aizen just has too much going for him despite her being the better pound for pound fighter. There is a reason she didn't fight him back in the fake karukura town.

Yes, she was healing the wounded.
 

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It's debatable.... she was capable of seeing through his absolute hypnosis with his corpse doll.

But more importantly it is her bankai Minazuki and her stamina that makes this fight questionable.


1. In terms of stamina she arguably has the greatest feat: Slaying Zaraki continuously for roughly 3 days straight. Not only this, but she did so as she continued to heal not only him, but herself (from fatal wounds no less). All the while she was getting worn out, Zaraki returned as stronger each time.

2. Minazuki dissolves the flesh of anyone that's around her. Meaning if she starts a CQB fight with Aizen or is simply within the undetermined range that Minazuki effects an individual, Aizen loses even if he has the hypnosis in effect.



It's actually a pretty tough fight. I lean towards Aizen slightly simply because of the following concept: If he has absolute hypnosis, then so long as there's a long fighting distance at the start, he can activate it. While Unohana can see through it to some degree, it is unknown if it is enough to actually fight with efficiency. Furthermore, it is unknown if she'd have control over her actions (assuming FULL hypnosis... he could technically control her actions). Unless his hypnosis simply means everything she can see/hear/touch/smell is an illusion though she has control over her body.

And she nearly shat her pants when she discovered Ichigo's reiatsu.

Unohana herself has an ungodly level of reitsu. She was taken aback that Ichigo, someone who'd hardly been a Shinigami much less a Human substitute, could have a reitsu level that was above the standard Captain level
 
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this is a stomp. Aizen wins low difficulty, Unohana said that herself and ichigo had roughly the same amount of reiatsu despite ichigo having less then half, and then clearly shocked to learn this. and we all know how bad base Aizen stomped Hollow ichigo w/o KS. unohana's attacks will not even affect Aizen.
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Unohana herself has an ungodly level of reitsu. She was taken aback that Ichigo, someone who'd hardly been a Shinigami much less a Human substitute, could have a reitsu level that was above the standard Captain level

She called his reiatsu captain level when it was at half, but in reality that was only half of what is was in Bankai that's not even counting his hollow release. It wasn't just above Captain level it was more than 2x's, closer to 3x's that of standard Captain level.

Also dude....disturbing avatar.
 

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And she nearly shat her pants when she discovered Ichigo's reiatsu.

She was just supried by his reitsu level, it's stronger than your average captains level.

this is a stomp. Aizen wins low difficulty, Unohana said that herself and ichigo had roughly the same amount of reiatsu despite ichigo having less then half, and then clearly shocked to learn this. and we all know how bad base Aizen stomped Hollow ichigo w/o KS. unohana's attacks will not even affect Aizen.
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Genrayusai commanded her to stay in her quarters during the first attack. He also went bankai during the time. Maybe he thought that it was best for Soul society if he didn't have two blood thirsty warriors running around. She eats other Shinigam for breakfast. Your also sayng that her reitsu level is weaker than Aizen's? That's far from the truth.
 
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She called his reiatsu captain level when it was at half, but in reality that was only half of what is was in Bankai that's not even counting his hollow release. It wasn't just above Captain level it was more than 2x's, closer to 3x's that of standard Captain level.

Also dude....disturbing avatar.


Yes, that was my point.... for someone who's from Yamamoto's age line, to see someone who was a mere human only a short while ago have levels beyond a standard captain is something that most people would be shocked about.

Unohana's reitsu itself is ridiculous... she was capable of pimp slapping Zaraki's sword when the fight started. Not to mention at that point he's one of the stronger captains with Reitsu seemingly already above the "Standard" line.


And with enough reitsu to kill him and heal him and herself as he got stronger for 3 days... she's obviously above the "standard" line as well.

Haha.... clearly it is Hidan being a troll, and Kakuzu being pissed off. It was in season so I figured... why not?!
 

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Yes, that was my point.... for someone who's from Yamamoto's age line, to see someone who was a mere human only a short while ago have levels beyond a standard captain is something that most people would be shocked about.

Unohana's reitsu itself is ridiculous... she was capable of pimp slapping Zaraki's sword when the fight started. Not to mention at that point he's one of the stronger captains with Reitsu seemingly already above the "Standard" line.


And with enough reitsu to kill him and heal him and herself as he got stronger for 3 days... she's obviously above the "standard" line as well.

Haha.... clearly it is Hidan being a troll, and Kakuzu being pissed off. It was in season so I figured... why not?!
Yea Unohana's reaitsu should be insane no doubt. I already stated this, in the art of killing she is better than Aizen, her Kenjutsu > all. But Aizen doesn't have to fight like Kenpachi now does he? Although he certainly isn't lacking in the power dept either.

Eh...na dude change that, its not cool. You have a badass sig going and then you have......that avatar lol....

She was just supried by his reitsu level, it's stronger than your average captains level.


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Genrayusai commanded her to stay in her quarters during the first attack. He also went bankai during the time. Maybe he thought that it was best for Soul society if he didn't have two blood thirsty warriors running around. She eats other Shinigam for breakfast. Your also sayng that her reitsu level is weaker than Aizen's? That's far from the truth.
Eh....now that is something you cannot prove. You can't tell me Unohana's reiatsu > Aizens. Captain level characters have a hard time cutting him due to his reiatsu. Its so strong that by the sheer release of it it can bring someone of Grimmjows calibre who is hollowfied bankai ichigo's level (the same level Unohana where Unohona shat her pants) to his knees.
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. No proof Unohana's is better.
 

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Yea Unohana's reaitsu should be insane no doubt. I already stated this, in the art of killing she is better than Aizen, her Kenjutsu > all. But Aizen doesn't have to fight like Kenpachi now does he? Although he certainly isn't lacking in the power dept either.

Eh...na dude change that, its not cool. You have a badass sig going and then you have......that avatar lol....


Eh....now that is something you cannot prove. You can't tell me Unohana's reiatsu > Aizens. Captain level characters have a hard time cutting him due to his reiatsu. Its so strong that by the sheer release of it it can bring someone of Grimmjows calibre who is hollowfied bankai ichigo's level (the same level Unohana where Unohona shat her pants) to his knees.
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. No proof Unohana's is better.

She's beyong captain level. Kenpachi>/=Byakuya. She killed Kenpachi with ease each time. You see now?

You also cant prove that Aizen>Unohana. That's why I said just keep this fun becasue we don't know her imits as of now.
 
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She's beyong captain level. Kenpachi>/=Byakuya. She killed Kenpachi with ease each time. You see now?

You also cant prove that Aizen>Unohana. That's why I said just keep this fun becasue we don't know her imits as of now.
Like I said if this was Aizen and Unohana running at each other like brainless freaks seeing who can tank the most and dish out the strongest attack like the whole fight with Kenpachi was its a different matter. She would take it. But this is Aizen with his shikai in tact, ability to mind****, she might be able to resist some aspects but not everything, we also need to consider speed is she as fast as Aizen? Regardless I dont think Aizen's shikai is completely countered, and unless someone tells me how it is countered Aizen takes this.
 

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Like I said if this was Aizen and Unohana running at each other like brainless freaks seeing who can tank the most and dish out the strongest attack like the whole fight with Kenpachi was its a different matter. She would take it. But this is Aizen with his shikai in tact, ability to mind****, she might be able to resist some aspects but not everything, we also need to consider speed is she as fast as Aizen? Regardless I dont think Aizen's shikai is completely countered, and unless someone tells me how it is countered Aizen takes this.

If he makes the mistake of stabing her like he did Genrayusai, she takes this. Also, judging from her character, she doesn't get mind ****ed easily
 

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Without his crysillis transcendence state Unohana beats aizen.

She's highly underrated by most people.
 

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Aizen, but he's barely coming out alive.
 

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Lol at people saying Unohana wins. Aizen > Espada. All of them. At the same time. It was stated in the manga. While he is in base form. Kyoraku was having a hard time with a Primera reluctant to fight. And he is one of the strongest members along with Ukitake.

The Kenpachi title is slightly overrated here. Kenpachi killed the previous one (kenpachi) while he was at best Byakuya level. Would you guys say that Kenpachi was stronger than all the current members minus Yamamoto. Obviously not. So people hiding behind the "she was the Kenpachi" are not making any sense. Yamamoto and Aizen > Her.

Aizen isn't feared because of his shikai. He is also damn strong. Gin mentionned this. Ichigo could't follow his movements. His reiatsu resists abilities. He detroys her. And he has bankai. That fight is not even fair. I even doubt the squad zero dudes could take Aizen on.

Yamamoto, Juha Bach, Aizen are in a class of their own.
 

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Lol at people saying Unohana wins. Aizen > Espada. All of them. At the same time. It was stated in the manga. While he is in base form. Kyoraku was having a hard time with a Primera reluctant to fight. And he is one of the strongest members along with Ukitake.

The Kenpachi title is slightly overrated here. Kenpachi killed the previous one (kenpachi) while he was at best Byakuya level. Would you guys say that Kenpachi was stronger than all the current members minus Yamamoto. Obviously not. So people hiding behind the "she was the Kenpachi" are not making any sense. Yamamoto and Aizen > Her.

Aizen isn't feared because of his shikai. He is also damn strong. Gin mentionned this. Ichigo could't follow his movements. His reiatsu resists abilities. He detroys her. And he has bankai. That fight is not even fair. I even doubt the squad zero dudes could take Aizen on.

Yamamoto, Juha Bach, Aizen are in a class of their own.

@bold. He was Byakuya level after the fight with Nnoitra. They fought a small battle because they were mad at each other. He also solo'd Epada 0.
 
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