Unknown/overlooke connection between Hinduism and Naruto

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Depend on the original language that was used to write the Ramayan mate ..... But our national language Hindi may suffice for now.

Hindi then has different dialects, which use different variations of the Avtars and Deities.

In fact there are many scriptures in hinduism that refer to Ramchandra as "Rama".
 

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Hindi then has different dialects, which use different variations of the Avtars and Deities.

And none of them uses 'Rama', its pronounced as 'Ram' ...... also as far as I know, names does not change with tongues (But a casual translator may make alterations in which case the original or the pronunciation used my the majority at the place of its orgin still hold the cerdibility) and while the deities may or may not have multiple names usually their chief or birth names are used to refer to them in common use. For example Ram has 108 names but people say 'Jai Shree Ram' never say 'Jai shree Chitrakoot Samashraya' .....
 
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And none of them uses 'Rama', its pronounced as 'Ram' ...... also as far as I know, names does not change with tongues (But a casual translator may make alterations in which case the original or the pronunciation used my the majority at the place of its orgin still hold the cerdibility) and while the deities may or may not have multiple names usually their chief or birth names are used to refer to them in common use. For example Ram has 108 names but people say 'Jai Shree Ram' never say 'Jai shree Chitrakoot Samashraya' .....

Guru granth, the scripture of the sikhs uses "raama".

And many other religious books in hinduism, you can look up the use of Raama.

Also, many dialects of Paikistan/Punjab area say "raama" also.
 

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Well I was considering the most popular pronunciation (I hardly thought Kishi or any Japanese would go much deep into Sanskrit), the westerners (I actually meant both our western states and some of the Western States of India... I shld have coined my terminology better) like the Punjab and the like use 'Raama' (There is a possibility that the a is silent in pronunciation u know) .... And some people use 'Raamo' too in chants (Then again some non english speakers call Jesus Christ: Jesu Khrista, Yasu etc) .... But I stand corrected .....

But back to the topic Kurama also has Rama in his name ..... so does Tobirama and Kawarama ..... so it might be randomly chosen name ... as the 'rama' is not so uncommon in Japanese names as it seems ....
 
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Well I was considering the most popular pronunciation (I hardly thought Kishi or any Japanese would go much deep into Sanskrit), the westerners (I actually meant both our western states and some of the Western States of India... I shld have coined my terminology better) like the Punjab and the like use 'Raama' .... And some people use 'Raamo' too in chants (Then again some non english speakers call Jesus Christ: Jesu Khrista, Yasu etc) .... But I stand corrected .....

But back to the topic Kurama also has Rama in his name ..... so does Tobirama and Kawarama ..... so it might be randomly chosen name ... as the 'rama' is not so uncommon in Japanese names as it seems ....


And I know they all "rama" in their names. But the connection between Ramchandra and Hashirama is too strong.

Kirshna was the 16 Kala guni Avatar

Ram was the 14 Kala guni avatar

In this case:

Rikudou being the case of Krishna

Hashirama being the case of Ram

Yes I know Ram came before Krishna, but according to the mythology , Krishna was suppose to come before Ram.


But you can make a link between Kurama if you want i have no problem. I'm simply analyzing the similarities. Hashirama being hailed as a "fairy tail" "god of Shinobi" all just support my point.
 

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And I know they all "rama" in their names. But the connection between Ramchandra and Hashirama is too strong.

Kirshna was the 16 Kala guni Avatar

Ram was the 14 Kala guni avatar

In this case:

Rikudou being the case of Krishna

Hashirama being the case of Ram

Yes I know Ram came before Krishna, but according to the mythology , Krishna was suppose to come before Ram.


But you can make a link between Kurama if you want i have no problem. I'm simply analyzing the similarities. Hashirama being hailed as a "fairy tail" "god of Shinobi" all just support my point.

Well your going to really complex concepts ..... Both Ram and Krishna are considered to be Avatars of Vishnu, and there is only 10 Avatars or Dashavatar ( ... they are close enough) where the 10th is yet to come (He prophesied to be Kalki, a Horseman who will bring the end of time and begin things anew .... funny relation with Christians here *The Four Horsemen*) but then again Krishna is not only a Avatar, he is THE Avatari ... the sum and total of the Avatars and the Original itself ...

These are the words of Shri Krishna himself .....

BG 4.7: Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion — at that time I descend Myself.


That kinda means that he himself is the Original and perhaps more ......

BG 10.8: I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts.


This in away mean, Krishna is very much everything ie the Sum of everything, including Vishnu himself. So basically Krishna is a manifestation Vishnu but at the same time, He is the source of all Vishnu Avatars. Most likely he is the Supreme one him/herself.

So your more or less right ....

But your making a great basic mistake here, while Buddhism which Kishi actually follows has many Hindu elements (Karura is actually Garura the 'mount' of Vishnu etc) ... its concepts are very different from Hindu beliefs .... Avatars and Buddhist reincarnations are not the same thing just as being hailed as one and actually being one is different .... But I will wait see if u can join the lines in the thread u said u said dat u wld make. Cya till then .... good luck.
 

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Isn't it Obvious ..?

Naruto Manga is full of Myths all over asia
 
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