Universitas explicatus of Susano'o

[MRMichael]

I honestly do not see what you added.you seemed to point out the same thing multiple times.
Sasuke's suusano covered in black flames is unique to him it is not a natural step in suusanos evolution.
Itachi was more advanced in tsukiyomi demonstrated by his ability to distort time as sasuke gained the blaze release which is better control of the black flames

 

[The God of Wind]

Makes complete sense, As for the views and replies, dont get yourself down youve done all you can (put it in your sig like i did XD) it can be depressing when you put work into something, then some idiot comes along and asks "do you miss naruto farting" and gets more feedback >.>

I know right, you have come up with the best theories about this manga by far! And i thought i made some fair predictions and theories as well, thing is you join a forum thinking you'll be able to express your ideas and true feelings about something you love and assume that the people on the forum are true fans and would actually be interested in a good prediction, however i realise this couldnt be further from the truth. most of the people on here dont even really care about the plot or naruto in general, they just wanna see the next Rasen shuriken or susanoo and are complaining about kishi's writing, and about itachi vs minato or sasori vs oro or some other random ass versus match, i cant believe people actually try and simulate those vs threads which is stupidity on a whole another level. some will go as far as to call people retarded for coming up with their own ideas, its just sad, i wish this series was directed towards a more mature audience than these underage dunces who only care about who's gona marry who in the end and then fap to it. pathetic..........

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

He had the Rinnegan up when he used his Perfect Susano'o. This is why I agree with you.




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[-Logic-]

He had the Rinnegan up when he used his Perfect Susano'o. This is why I agree with you.




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

Thanks bro ^_^

 

[NarutoFactoid]

This is good because it uses a lot of reference material. Lots of observation. But i'm sorry to say it's lacking insight and at least one or more things are wrong. Or the thought wasn't written out correctly i guess.

The pure observation part about the two sets of eyes thing. The top set is just part of the cloak that further shields or, bulks up, susanno. Its just a shield hood type thing its not an actual face. The real face is in that mouth and the body is under that cloak/armor. It's just a hat not its face.

The thing with the gem on the forehead is also observant but it doesn't really make sense.

And I would say that seeing the the changes in susannos appearance coinciding with increases in power are obvious. But better to point them out in the fashion you've done.

But we're still lacking insight. Sort of poking at a theory that the changes occur because of hashiramas cells doesn't hold water.

Sasuke's changes with susannos appearnace, have coincided with his leaps foward in power and hatred.

The skeleten forms against the kages at the kage summit meeting. And then the cloaked form when he faced danzo. His breaking through danzos seal. With force of will and greater hatred. AND. he gets a more powerful chakra and susanno. Karin mentions every single time sasukes chakra gets more evil. (sry i don't have page references but if u go to these fights they are there.)

The rinnegan being another leap foward from the sharingan was mentioned. (someone already mentioned this in the thread).

And connecting these 2 things is insightful. the rest is sorta blagaeraekrlaj;dklfajdklfajdl;jfbffffffffffff.

Very observant. Lacking insight. Going to say i agree and disagree.

 

[-Logic-]

This is good because it uses a lot of reference material. Lots of observation. But i'm sorry to say it's lacking insight and at least one or more things are wrong. Or the thought wasn't written out correctly i guess.

The pure observation part about the two sets of eyes thing. The top set is just part of the cloak that further shields or, bulks up, susanno. Its just a shield hood type thing its not an actual face. The real face is in that mouth and the body is under that cloak/armor. It's just a hat not its face.

The thing with the gem on the forehead is also observant but it doesn't really make sense.

And I would say that seeing the the changes in susannos appearance coinciding with increases in power are obvious. But better to point them out in the fashion you've done.

But we're still lacking insight. Sort of poking at a theory that the changes occur because of hashiramas cells doesn't hold water.

Sasuke's changes with susannos appearnace, have coincided with his leaps foward in power and hatred.

The skeleten forms against the kages at the kage summit meeting. And then the cloaked form when he faced danzo. His breaking through danzos seal. With force of will and greater hatred. AND. he gets a more powerful chakra and susanno. Karin mentions every single time sasukes chakra gets more evil. (sry i don't have page references but if u go to these fights they are there.)

The rinnegan being another leap foward from the sharingan was mentioned. (someone already mentioned this in the thread).

And connecting these 2 things is insightful. the rest is sorta blagaeraekrlaj;dklfajdklfajdl;jfbffffffffffff.

Very observant. Lacking insight. Going to say i agree and disagree.

That's a fair post, but I assure you that in the Manga someone will prove that you require the Rinnegan for the perfect Susano'o, that's all I'm saying U_U

 

[NarutoFactoid]

That's a fair post, but I assure you that in the Manga someone will prove that you require the Rinnegan for the perfect Susano'o, that's all I'm saying U_U

thats the part i agreed with. that made sense

 

[-Logic-]

thats the part i agreed with. that made sense

That's good

 

[Abon]

I Agree w/ this Theory !

 

[MrLukyso]

Nice, but you don't need Hashirama DNA to achieve Perfect and such a gigantic Susanoo. It's just that Madara went beyond EMS Limits.

 

[-Logic-]

Nice, but you don't need Hashirama DNA to achieve Perfect and such a gigantic Susanoo. It's just that Madara went beyond EMS Limits.

Is that why whenever Sasuke gets an upgrade to his Sharingan his Susano'o has increased in it's power? Cm'on dude.

Edit: You don't need Hashirama's DNA, but you need the Rinnegan.

 

[MrLukyso]

Is that why whenever Sasuke gets an upgrade to his Sharingan his Susano'o has increased in it's power? Cm'on dude.

You compare Sasuke to Madara? Pff.. You want me to explain why Sasukes susanoo got better ? No problem, first thing is that with MS you go blind and feel side effects so you can't sustain a skeleton version of Susanoo for long I won't speak about Armoured you need to be used to feel such a pain and you can sustain it only for a very short time, with EMS comes eyes which doesn't give Side effects and doesn't give a huge pain so you sustain and activate Armoured susanoo and sustain it for a long time - just requires chakra.

Now what has Hashiramas DNA to do with Susan-oo-o ? Nothing it has nothing to do with it at all, Senju DNA only helps you to save your chakra, it doesn't give you more chakra you can use everything using less chakra that's all. Rinnegan... Possible but still Susanoo is mangekyou technique and it was said that Madara went beyond EMS Limits ( Which is impossible for any other uchiha ) and achieved this Perfect version as we know he's the most strongest and talented Uchiha of all times.

 

[-Logic-]

You compare Sasuke to Madara? Pff.. You want me to explain why Sasukes susanoo got better ? No problem, first thing is that with MS you go blind and feel side effects so you can't sustain a skeleton version of Susanoo for long I won't speak about Armoured you need to be used to feel such a pain and you can sustain it only for a very short time, with EMS comes eyes which doesn't give Side effects and doesn't give a huge pain so you sustain and activate Armoured susanoo and sustain it for a long time - just requires chakra.

I wasn't comparing him in power, Madara is a perfect example to compare with because they're both Uchihas and they're the only two Uchihas to have EMS. It's clear that Sasuke's Susano'o improved when he got the EMS. I agree that when you have MS it's harder to maintain the highest version. This is Sasuke's full Susano'o on MS:

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When he gets the EMS his Susano'o is changed a lot.

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You can see that the MS version's of Susano'o's nose has changed, into a beak shape. You can also see the black flames of Amaterasu in his hand. So you're wrong, and I'm right

Believe me, Perfect Susano'o requires the Rinnegan U_U

 

[The Drunken kage]

I agree with it all. Great spot with the gem! I never even picked up on that! It'll be interesting to see where that leads.

 

[-Logic-]

I agree with it all. Great spot with the gem! I never even picked up on that! It'll be interesting to see where that leads.

Thanks for the support. If you found any of my work successful then be sure to +rep it, but only if you feel that I deserve it U_U

 

[d33zy91]

In this thread I intend to thoroughly explain Susano'o's development, the different stages of Susano'o and how they are acquired. Let's start with this.

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• First of all, Susano'o can only be acquired when one has the Mangekyo Sharingan, even then, it's a rarity for one to awaken, it is scarce, and not everyone can attain Susano'o.
  
• Secondly, the first form of Susano'o can be the arm, the rib cage and so on. We do not need to worry about these forms because any initial Mangekyo user who has Susano'o can use all of the different (basic manipulations) or version of Susano'o. I.e the arm or the rib cage.
  
• Thirdly, we all know that Susano'o differs in looks with each user, let us not confuse the looks of Susano'o with it's development. Although the looks heavily explain and give away clues to what developments have been made we have to be careful.

The first time that we got a glimpse of Susano'o was in the awesome battle that Sasuke and Itachi fought against one another.

Itachi's Susano'o (Mangekyo) was humanoid and similar to that of Sasuke's. Notice the face under the nose cannot be seen and the eyes are simply glowing. Also notice the humanoid features such as the eyes. This trait is present in Sasuke's Susano'o also (Mangekyo.)

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We've now analyzed the features in the Mangekyo version of Susano'o. I think we do not need to analyze the weaker forms such as this version of Susano'o because concentrating on the final version will give away Susano'o's secrets.

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We can conclude that all MS versions of Susano'o (Complete Versions) have these similar traits present in all Uchiha's Susano'o's (Mangekyo.)

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1. They all have humanoid features. Eyes, ears, noses, hands etc.
   
2. They all have two sets of eyes. Look in the mouth of Itachi's Final Susano'o (Mangekyo) and you will see a pair of eyes. This is also present in Sasuke's Final Version (Mangekyo.)
   
3. The final, and mysterious trait that all MS versions of Susano'o all have is that they have a sort of diamond/jewel lodged deep in their forehead. This may have something to do with Chakra, as it reminds of me of Tsunade's jewel on her forehead.

Now let us analyze the EMS version of Susano'o. For obvious reasons we're only going to analyze Sasuke's because Madara's may have been enhanced by Hashirama's cells, and that would cause great confusion, and render this thread slightly pointless.

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• There are a few things that change to Susano'o's appearance when one acquires the EMS. These things are as follows.
  
• After Sasuke gained the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan, the second layer of it's armor changes its appearance. The mouth of the armour changes to a beak shape, giving it an even more menacing look.
  
• The skin on the right arm and right hand gains additional platings that gives the appearance of the skin peeling off and the armour itself becomes more ghastly in appearance.
  
• The orb is now made entirely of the flames of Amaterasu and the arrows are at least seemingly coated with the flames, as seen when one of them pierced White Zetsu and set him ablaze. (You seem to acquire a new Susano'o Technique when you acquire the EMS.)

And finally, we can analyze the Final and Perfect version of the Susano'o. Personally, I believe that Susano'o increases in it's power as the Dojutsu increases. It follows a pattern. Every an Uchiha with Susano'o upgrades his Dojutsu his Susano'o is also upgraded. It's an obvious pattern. I could be wrong, however, this is just what I think. This part of the thread could be wrong, but I'm sure the Mangekyo Sharingan and Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan's version of Susano'o has been analyzed correctly and efficiently.

Let us state the obvious changes.

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• Madara's Susano'o still carries the attribute present in the MS version of Susano'o. The pair of eyes in the mouth.
  
• It also still carries the armor on it's arms that is present on Sasuke's Susano'o.
  
• It's armor is almost flowing of off it's head, and then going down from it's shoulders.

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It's much larger than any Susano'o we've ever seen. I theorize that this is either thanks to Hashirama's cells, or the Rinnegan, one of the two. One way I could prove my theory is that the traits present in the MS and EMS version are still there, and new traits are added. It would make perfect sense because people are questioning Hashirama's win against a Susano'o like this. I think he was using his previous version, and that's why he lost. Hashi would loose against such a Susano'o... In other words, each time your Dojutsu increases your Susano'o increases in it's power.

Thank you if you read all of it, you should get a medal if you did ^_^
Tell me what you're thoughts are, and if you agree or not.

I agree this makes perfect sense

 

[-Logic-]

I agree this makes perfect sense

Thank you for reading

 

[sargon106]

Great job, and good research...

 

[-Logic-]

Great job, and good research...

Thank you very much!

 

[Stark]

Nice