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[Jɑégar]

I cant think of a more perfect list.

1. Kaguya - Proven manga fact

2. Sage - 2 rinnegans and fearsome third eye is what made me put him above Madara.

3. Madara - No need for explanation.

4. Guy - Yes he used a suicidal move, but I'm sure he can finish off any shinobi below before he dies. This guy deserves more credit.

5. Naruto - The will of fire is strong. Sage power lives within him now.
6. Sasuke - Same goes for Sasuke, but since Naruto is the main char its obvious he will get the slight edge.

7. Obito - Juubi jin his strongest form, the reason I put him below Nasuke is because of his weak mental state. This dude doesnt know what hes fighting for. This very own weakness is the source of power that comes from Nasuke.

8. Sage brother - Obvious son of the demon. One of the pure bloodlines.

9. Kabuto - Edo army

10. Indra - Close bloodline
11. Asura - Same goes for Asura. They might ve been equal, but since Indra is called a genius I put him above.

12. Nagato - Rinnegan

13. Orochimaru - Edo Hokages

14. Itachi - I believe he stands above Hasirama with KA. His Legendary weapons and Susano will provide enough time to cast KA.

15. Hashirama - No need for explanation.

Bolded: You were going to put Madara above the Sage if he didn't have the Rinnegan?! My god.
Kabuto, Obito, Naruto, and Sasuke are better than Indra and Ashura?? For the love of God.

 

[AGoodBoy]

as i have said there are a few character which have good abilities all round such as the top 3-5.. however il humor you..

in kakashi's case.. to use kamui he has to look at what he is sniping..
- Minato can avoid this due to reactions and FTG
- tobirama can avoid this due to reactions and FTG
- Gaara who can block kakashi's view on him can avoid this which slowly turning the terrain into a desert
- 4th raikage can potentially avoid it the same way he avoided amatersu

again im not saying its ever a certain win im just saying there are character that are not put on top ten lists which have the potential to win this is due to the match up..

also think about it.. there is never going to be a correct top 10 or whatever since the characters people place lower on the top ten for example like itachi and minato have the potential to beat those who are higher on the top ten list..

so again it proves my point ABC logic doesnt work .. ABC logic would imply Kakashi is 100% > hashirama is 100% > madara is 100% > obito but we know this isnt true as certain character possess certain techs which are ideal for dealing with certain characters

According to fanboys this is true. I never said I have kakashi in my top 10 seeing as I know people can block kamui(like you pointed out) but putting kakashi as 1 in this example was simply to avoid any 'kamui snipe GG' troll arguments. Kakashi's not top 10 IMO and, in that respect, he still can't beat anyone in the top 10.

As for people lower in top 10 beating higher up, that's based on your own opinion of how a fight would go, but if I made my top 10 as...
Kaguya > JJ Rikudo > JJ madara > JJ obito > SM hashi > BSM Naruto = EMS Sasuke [this is basically manga fact up to this point] > DSM kabuto > alive Itachi > alive Minato *excluded nagato since I left off edos and 6 pop doesn't deserve a spot in this top 10 imo*

It's because there's not a single person lower down in the list that can beat someone higher up. And, there's not a single person outside the list, including those with suicide techs (Kibaku, RDS, C0, 8th gate) who can beat someone on the list. But, anyway, that's just differing opinions

 

[Lucidus]

According to fanboys this is true. I never said I have kakashi in my top 10 seeing as I know people can block kamui(like you pointed out) but putting kakashi as 1 in this example was simply to avoid any 'kamui snipe GG' troll arguments. Kakashi's not top 10 IMO and, in that respect, he still can't beat anyone in the top 10.

As for people lower in top 10 beating higher up, that's based on your own opinion of how a fight would go, but if I made my top 10 as...
Kaguya > JJ Rikudo > JJ madara > JJ obito > SM hashi > BSM Naruto = EMS Sasuke [this is basically manga fact up to this point] > DSM kabuto > alive Itachi > alive Minato *excluded nagato since I left off edos and 6 pop doesn't deserve a spot in this top 10 imo*

It's because there's not a single person lower down in the list that can beat someone higher up. And, there's not a single person outside the list, including those with suicide techs (Kibaku, RDS, C0, 8th gate) who can beat someone on the list. But, anyway, that's just differing opinions

see i can agree that its a matter of opinion and how you think the fight would go.. now imo kabuto, itachi and minato could be potentially tied ide say minato has what it takes to defeat kabuto.. not easily but he could same goes for itachi.. especially if we are excluding edo tensei in this reguards

also im not one of these people that like to rely on one sole tech to win these people that say kamui GG are plain ignorrant.. but i will agree that kamui is a potential game changer and could catch someone like itachi or kabuto off guard.. this is why i say a battle isnt 100% decided as ABC logic would imply a battle can always go both ways

i think we will leave this here today im trying to play a game and this thread is distracting me lol

 

[Djokovic]

Im not denying that Oro let them move freely , just like u can't deny the fact that is his own power and it isn't something Oro implanted into them .

I never said Minato has been granted this power, but its a shame we cant include a puppet.

why is guy up here ?

I already mentioned the reason so tell me what exactly you dont understand.
He might have used a suicidal move, but he will still beat al the shinobi below before he dies. Heck, he might even take 2 or more with him.

Bolded: You were going to put Madara above the Sage if he didn't have the Rinnegan?! My god.
Kabuto, Obito, Naruto, and Sasuke are better than Indra and Ashura?? For the love of God.

I was hoping to put Madara above him, but the third eye is something what changed my mind. I still dont have an snwer to that. Hopefully someone would be kind enough to formulate it.

 

[Eggs Aisle]

list went to hell around #4

 

[Valhorus]

I never said Minato has been granted this power, but its a shame we cant include a puppet.



I already mentioned the reason so tell me what exactly you dont understand.
He might have used a suicidal move, but he will still beat al the shinobi below before he dies. Heck, he might even take 2 or more with him.



I was hoping to put Madara above him, but the third eye is something what changed my mind. I still dont have an snwer to that. Hopefully someone would be kind enough to formulate it.

Enough . I'm done with you . Show me a manga scan where Orochimaru controlled the Hokages and their moves at the time they arrived on the battlefield . So then Rinnegan Madara who was acting on his own till he released the Edo Tensei is a puppet too ? You are the puppet who is denying facts to put his favs higher . Face it already , Orochimaru was not controlling any of the kages at the battlefield they were acting on their own and even if he grants the "control" back and use them that would still be Hokages power since Orochimaru will use their own Jutsus and Skills .

 

[Jɑégar]

I never said Minato has been granted this power, but its a shame we cant include a puppet.



I already mentioned the reason so tell me what exactly you dont understand.
He might have used a suicidal move, but he will still beat al the shinobi below before he dies. Heck, he might even take 2 or more with him.



I was hoping to put Madara above him, but the third eye is something what changed my mind. I still dont have an snwer to that. Hopefully someone would be kind enough to formulate it.

Nah man, Kaguya and the sage are on a whole different level. Indra and Ashura, and the sage bro too.

 

[xxxLegacy]

A lot is wrong at this List.

 

[xxxLegacy]

You must be in detention for a reason so I kindly ask you not to insult anymore, before you get banned.
Again I must disagree with you on everything. I rarely see a poster like you who just write utter bs, but maybe I can put some sense into you.

Alright lets start with Minato's nerf... The reason I disagree with you, is because its vice versa. Kishi actualy buffed MInato in order to stay a lil competive. Minato gained half of Kurama and SM. How is this a nerf?

Minato is indeed a big name, but nothing compared to the ppl I listed.


MInato actualy doomed veryone by letting Obito live. Madara would have never become juubi jin, so MInato is not that godly like you described him. His decision making can be very poor sometimes.

..Itachi looooool a Fooder against Minato

 

[Djokovic]

Enough . I'm done with you . Show me a manga scan where Orochimaru controlled the Hokages and their moves at the time they arrived on the battlefield . So then Rinnegan Madara who was acting on his own till he released the Edo Tensei is a puppet too ? You are the puppet who is denying facts to put his favs higher . Face it already , Orochimaru was not controlling any of the kages at the battlefield they were acting on their own and even if he grants the "control" back and use them that would still be Hokages power since Orochimaru will use their own Jutsus and Skills .

I never said Oro controlled their movements at the battlefield, but the fact stands hes Oro's puppet. Orochimaru can restrain him at will, but Madara was free from the very beginning, even if they tried something his senju DNA would resist.

We cant count Edo puppets as long as theyr stuck with the contract.

Nah man, Kaguya and the sage are on a whole different level. Indra and Ashura, and the sage bro too.

From what weve seen they aint even close to Madara, Sasuke and Naruto. They have all the power of the juubi and the sage strength. Following the manga facts even the Sages brother didnt have a taste of Juubi power. Theyr not in the same league.

..Itachi looooool a Fooder against Minato

Minato had to be buffed and still didnt leave any impression behind. He was fodderized numberous of times. I cant even keep track anymore.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

How is obito below Guy, Naruto and Sasuke? What the hell are Indra and Ashura doing there with no feats or hype?

 

[Djokovic]

How is obito below Guy, Naruto and Sasuke? What the hell are Indra and Ashura doing there with no feats or hype?

Guy is so underrated here. He's the only one who didnt get fodderized in a second. He's actualy still fighting the jin while others have been one panneled by blind Madara.

Ashura and Indra do have feats, as shown in the manga both can perform jutsu on the same level as EMS Madara. Theyr the closest relatives of So6p so its safe to say they belong on my list.