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[Valhorus]

BM Minato stomps Itachi . And dont tell me that BM is not his power cuz i don't consider KA Itachi's power .

 

[Djokovic]

In case you're entirely retarded....

IF MINATO WASN'T SAVING EVERYONE'S @SS, AND KISHI DIDN'T NERF HIM OF HIS ARMS THEN YOU KNOW HE WOULD HAVE BEATEN MADARA, stop your ignorant bs thread/list. You're obviously basing this off of wins and who has beaten or capable of beating who....you can't use A>B>C logic dude.

You can't say Gai > Naruto and Sasuke currently because he's chewing out Madara's @ss, its incorrect and stupid of you....which everyone seems to agree that you're wrong.

First of all there is no need to insult, especialy when you're wrong.

I cant stop and laugh what i just read. Madara is the one who nerfed Minato. How can you even compare these 2? How can people even mention MInato while the big names are up there?

And one more thing, not everyone disagreed with me, so basicaly you got it all wrong.

 

[AGoodBoy]

apart from very few there are a lot of factors that affect the battle so no ABC logic doesnt work.. other characters have potential to defeat characters on any top ten list or any list that has ranked characters in such a way

You have to be kidding...

There's no one who can beat any character on the top 10. Anyone who even says that is fanboying their character.
Madara, kaguya, hashirama, itachi, nagato, sasuke, naruto, minato, obito, kabuto(excluding ET) those 10 people alone are canonically unstoppable by even Kages. Who's going to beat them when even kage and akatsuki can't?
What, jiraiya's gonna beat one of those guys? lol no... that's fanfic.
Oro? Hell no. He was already taken out twice by itachi, and itachi's low down in the top 10.
Tobirama? Complete fanfic that he's in the top 10. when even hiruzen has better hype than him.
Hiruzen has a shot to kick out someone based on his hype, but nothing else.
3rd raikage? Fanfic. He lost to SM naruto.
Any akatsuki other than then top 3 members who are already in top 10? lolno... possible 4th strongest mem, kisame, already admitted he's weaker than itachi. Deidara already lost to itachi. Sasori lost to an old woman and a jounin. Hidan? Not even funny...
Kakashi? Well according to his fanboys, Kamui solos everyone. :| So might as well put him above Kaguya and bump out someone from the top 10. But, by doing that, he's still unbeatable by unone below him.

 

[Minator93]

Too many restrictions here to give one of your favorites a lead. My list is based on full potential which shows true standings.

Not really, my list contains all of the relevant character with feats. I've merely excluded the hype and 1-shot characters U_U

 

[Djokovic]

BM Minato stomps Itachi . And dont tell me that BM is not his power cuz i don't consider KA Itachi's power .

Edo MInato abilities dont count, because he's a puppet controlled by Oro. The only one who can claim their Edo abilities are Madara and Hashirama.
Many would say Itachi belongs there too, but he was controlled by KA, still making him a puppet.

 

[Valhorus]

Edo MInato abilities dont count, because he's a puppet controlled by Oro. The only one who can claim their Edo abilities are Madara and Hashirama.

And why ? Oro released his control so it is all their abilities they are showing. . The Hokages were Edoed with their power without makeup like Madara . You are finding stupid excuses to put Itachi there . Madara and Hashirama can keep they edo powers ? And why others can't ?

 

[Djokovic]

Not really, my list contains all of the relevant character with feats. I've merely excluded the hype and 1-shot characters U_U

You have excluded too many characters. You even said Madara and Obito jins are equal, which is wrong a proven manga fact.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Denied.

1-Juudara
2-Juubito
3-Hashirama
4-BSM Naruto
5-PS Sasuke
6-Nagato
7-DSM Kabuto
8-Minato
9-Tobirama
10-Itachi

 

[Djokovic]

And why ? Oro released his control so it is all their abilities they are showing. . The Hokages were Edoed with their power without makeup like Madara . You are finding stupid excuses to put Itachi there . Madara and Hashirama can keep they edo powers ? And why others can't ?

Yes, Minato can move freely now, because the boss allows it.
Oro cant restrain Hashirama or Madara, because they know the seals and have strong senju DNa.

 

[Sugiyama]

itachi above hachirama......:|

 

[blazekev90]

And why ? Oro released his control so it is all their abilities they are showing. . The Hokages were Edoed with their power without makeup like Madara . You are finding stupid excuses to put Itachi there . Madara and Hashirama can keep they edo powers ? And why others can't ?

Orochimaru never released his control.

Edo Hokage are part of his arsenal whether ppl like it or not. So, if any Hokage is included Orochimaru should be included.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Sees Juubi jin Obito under Naruto and Sasuke and Hashirama under Itachi......garbo list.​

 

[Djokovic]

Don't be stupid retard...Madara isn't a real person...Kishi gave a logical way to nerf Minato in order to drag this war.
Yeah the ones who do agree are retarded or no nothing about the current Naruto we're watching.

Minato is a big name you retard...without his instant thinking everyone would have been dead...now lie again...and without his chakra Naruto and the rest would he finished, Naruto and Sasuke would also be dead...lol gtfo dude you know nothing.

You only know what you see.

You must be in detention for a reason so I kindly ask you not to insult anymore, before you get banned.
Again I must disagree with you on everything. I rarely see a poster like you who just write utter bs, but maybe I can put some sense into you.

Alright lets start with Minato's nerf... The reason I disagree with you, is because its vice versa. Kishi actualy buffed MInato in order to stay a lil competive. Minato gained half of Kurama and SM. How is this a nerf?

Minato is indeed a big name, but nothing compared to the ppl I listed.


MInato actualy doomed veryone by letting Obito live. Madara would have never become juubi jin, so MInato is not that godly like you described him. His decision making can be very poor sometimes.

 

[Valhorus]

Yes, Minato can move freely now, because the boss allows it.
Oro cant restrain Hashirama or Madara, because they know the seals and have strong senju DNa.

Im not denying that Oro let them move freely , just like u can't deny the fact that is his own power and it isn't something Oro implanted into them .

 

[Lucidus]

You have to be kidding...

There's no one who can beat any character on the top 10. Anyone who even says that is fanboying their character.
Madara, kaguya, hashirama, itachi, nagato, sasuke, naruto, minato, obito, kabuto(excluding ET) those 10 people alone are canonically unstoppable by even Kages. Who's going to beat them when even kage and akatsuki can't?
What, jiraiya's gonna beat one of those guys? lol no... that's fanfic.
Oro? Hell no. He was already taken out twice by itachi, and itachi's low down in the top 10.
Tobirama? Complete fanfic that he's in the top 10. when even hiruzen has better hype than him.
Hiruzen has a shot to kick out someone based on his hype, but nothing else.
3rd raikage? Fanfic. He lost to SM naruto.
Any akatsuki other than then top 3 members who are already in top 10? lolno... possible 4th strongest mem, kisame, already admitted he's weaker than itachi. Deidara already lost to itachi. Sasori lost to an old woman and a jounin. Hidan? Not even funny...
Kakashi? Well according to his fanboys, Kamui solos everyone. :| So might as well put him above Kaguya and bump out someone from the top 10. But, by doing that, he's still unbeatable by unone below him.

itachi
- tobirama has the ability to fight him and the fight could go either way
- Minato same as above
- Killer bee could also have a chance being a perfect jin tsukoyomi isnt as effective
- Gaara also has what it takes being able to block itachi's site and drag him out from his susano aswell

this is just one example of many.. im not saying that they cant beat him for sure as i know this isnt the case.. but what im saying is a battle can go either way and if a character has the right conditions and techs they are able to win.. this is why ABC logic doesnt apply

you have muu that could potentially beat a top ten character
2nd mizukage
Kakashi
Gai
ect...

 

[WreckRolled]

1.Danzo
2.Shisui
3.Obito
4.Madara
5.Kabuto
6.Hashirama
7.Naruto
8.Sasuke
9.Alive Itachi
10.Orochimaru

 

[AGoodBoy]

itachi
- tobirama has the ability to fight him and the fight could go either way
- Minato same as above
- Killer bee could also have a chance being a perfect jin tsukoyomi isnt as effective
- Gaara also has what it takes being able to block itachi's site and drag him out from his susano aswell

this is just one example of many.. im not saying that they cant beat him for sure as i know this isnt the case.. but what im saying is a battle can go either way and if a character has the right conditions and techs they are able to win.. this is why ABC logic doesnt apply

you have muu that could potentially beat a top ten character
2nd mizukage
Kakashi
Gai
ect...

the people you listed against itachi, that's all fanfic. Only minato, out of all of those, even has a chance, but i'm not even going to bother going into an Itachi debate right now, so just skip that.

There's no top 10 char muu, mizu, or gai can beat. Outside of 8th gate, each top 10 has a way of easily blocking afternoon tiger.

1) let's also omit suicide 8th gate guy(because it will make this discussion too annoying with his current wank)
2) let's assume kakashi is num 1 because of Kamui GG(because Kamui GG is only ever the argument for him defeating any and all)
Now, let's assume these are the top 3 for a second:

JJ Madara -> JJ Obito -> Hashi. I'm sure we can all agree that none of those people you listed(with the above restrictions) can beat any of these guys.

- Itachi: You'll probably say they can beat him because everyone apparently wants itachi to lose battles, so we'll skip this discussion. Don't bother debating itachi, because I'll ignore it since it will derail this argument like it always does.

- Kabuto: What can any of those 3 do to kill kabuto? In order to use jinton, muu must become visible and he'll be sensed. At which point, jinton can be interrupted. Without jinton he loses. Mizukage can't put the guy down while sound gen decks him so that's over. Guy can't kill him due to liquification and healing, so that's also over. White rage paralyzes both guy(8th gate or not) and muu(stopping invisibility) making them easy prey.

- Minato: None of them can touch him. That argument is already over.

- Sasuke: PS(or legged susano'o if you're one of those who still think sasuke doesn't have PS) + enton kills those 3.

- Naruto: BSM. Nuff said.

- Nagato: He camps on his chameleon. Both mizukage and guy instantly lose already as they can never find him. Even KCM naruto couldn't find the chameleon. Muu can find it, but deva path and preta path rapes his arsenal. This discussion is already over. Even in 8th gate guy still will never find this guy.

- Kakshi: who i've put as num1 for argument sake, due to kamui wank, snipes them all with 'kamui GG'.

All of that is in an extremely condensed form. So, exactly who can guy, muu or mizukage beat in the top 10? Not a single person. It's not even a discussion outside of 8th gate and kamui wank.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I'm not a fish, therefore, I'm not taking the bait.

 

[Xāvî1]

why is guy up here ?

 

[Lucidus]

the people you listed against itachi, that's all fanfic. Only minato, out of all of those, even has a chance, but i'm not even going to bother going into an Itachi debate right now, so just skip that.

There's no top 10 char muu, mizu, or gai can beat. Outside of 8th gate, each top 10 has a way of easily blocking afternoon tiger.

1) let's also omit suicide 8th gate guy(because it will make this discussion too annoying with his current wank)
2) let's assume kakashi is num 1 because of Kamui GG(because Kamui GG is only ever the argument for him defeating any and all)
Now, let's assume these are the top 3 for a second:

JJ Madara -> JJ Obito -> Hashi. I'm sure we can all agree that none of those people you listed(with the above restrictions) can beat any of these guys.

- Itachi: You'll probably say they can beat him because everyone apparently wants itachi to lose battles, so we'll skip this discussion. Don't bother debating itachi, because I'll ignore it since it will derail this argument like it always does.

- Kabuto: What can any of those 3 do to kill kabuto? In order to use jinton, muu must become visible and he'll be sensed. At which point, jinton can be interrupted. Without jinton he loses. Mizukage can't put the guy down while sound gen decks him so that's over. Guy can't kill him due to liquification and healing, so that's also over. White rage paralyzes both guy(8th gate or not) and muu(stopping invisibility) making them easy prey.

- Minato: None of them can touch him. That argument is already over.

- Sasuke: PS(or legged susano'o if you're one of those who still think sasuke doesn't have PS) + enton kills those 3.

- Naruto: BSM. Nuff said.

- Nagato: He camps on his chameleon. Both mizukage and guy instantly lose already as they can never find him. Even KCM naruto couldn't find the chameleon. Muu can find it, but deva path and preta path rapes his arsenal. This discussion is already over. Even in 8th gate guy still will never find this guy.

- Kakshi: who i've put as num1 for argument sake, due to kamui wank, snipes them all with 'kamui GG'.

All of that is in an extremely condensed form. So, exactly who can guy, muu or mizukage beat in the top 10? Not a single person. It's not even a discussion outside of 8th gate and kamui wank.

as i have said there are a few character which have good abilities all round such as the top 3-5.. however il humor you..

in kakashi's case.. to use kamui he has to look at what he is sniping..
- Minato can avoid this due to reactions and FTG
- tobirama can avoid this due to reactions and FTG
- Gaara who can block kakashi's view on him can avoid this which slowly turning the terrain into a desert
- 4th raikage can potentially avoid it the same way he avoided amatersu

again im not saying its ever a certain win im just saying there are character that are not put on top ten lists which have the potential to win this is due to the match up..

also think about it.. there is never going to be a correct top 10 or whatever since the characters people place lower on the top ten for example like itachi and minato have the potential to beat those who are higher on the top ten list..

so again it proves my point ABC logic doesnt work .. ABC logic would imply Kakashi is 100% > hashirama is 100% > madara is 100% > obito but we know this isnt true as certain character possess certain techs which are ideal for dealing with certain characters