Uncovering the mystery: Hiraishin

[BloodSeed]

ah so that's what you mean then my bad for not reading properly..........

c*cks*cker

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

c*cks*cker

damn troll you're still alive ?

 

[Owarij]

It's just a summoning jutsu..databook practically says that.. he simply reverse summons himself to aseal
as naruto would summon gamaunta to him

Kuchyose is space time and space time abilities are ninjutsu..

 

[Blaze Release]

It's just a summoning jutsu..databook practically says that.. he simply reverse summons himself to aseal
as naruto would summon gamaunta to him

Kuchyose is space time and space time abilities are ninjutsu..

Yes, but there is some element of yang energy going on there, though yin and yang is out of the question.
Another example. Kabuto's miku tensei was said to give life and control something that wasn't alive [

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]. This deffo contains yang energy, if we go by the definition of yang and add sennin modo to the equation. Now amaterasu, yes its a high level katon, however at the same time i believe it contains yin energy. Its this yin energy that potentially counter balanced the yang in muki tensei and reverted the cave to its original position.

Maybe i am thinking too much into it

 

[kunlebade]

Well the mechanics behind Hirashin has already been explained in the manga; it is simply a reverse summoning jutsu.

 

[Varrah]

Hiraishin is putatively a manipulation of Kuchiyose no Jutsu's. ​

 

[Bogard]

Nope. The ability to use either yang or yin is very possible given what naruto said and yamato replied. [

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Its clearly hinting that either can be achieved and there are techniques that fall under either. But the combination of yin AND yang which is the 6th element is impossible under normal circumstances.

Only people so far that have done this or have been hyped to have this are:
Rikudou sennin
Nagato
Madara
Obito

The Bijuus are made of yin AND yang though(at least we know Kyubi is for sure). Minato seperated his Yin chakra AND his Yang chakra with the shiki fujin by sealing on the yin and negative part of Kyubi

 

[ajpn920]

i played with you long enough in the past yeah long enough to make you stated minato is immune to a genjutsu just because we never seen him get caught in one........


there is no need for me to contribute in this issue since this case is pretty much over back then, you're just repeating this issue all over again.

ohh...i did not say that minato is immune to genjutsu but rather he can't be trapped. being immune is different..learn to read..so you're still butthurt all this time? get over it..it's been a year..

This thread was enlightening.

I thought I knew stuff about Naruto but compared to you guys I don't know much.

thanks bro

Totsuka, I don't know who broke your heart but it wasn't me or ajpn so stop trolling in his thread. I understand you try to troll me in my threads but this thread was different so do not spam in here.

It all started in the early days of 2012. Remember the Itachi vs Minato threads? I think he's still butthurt all this time..LOL

Yin-Yang Release? No, that's a Rikudō power for those who have the Rinnegan or the blood of both the Uchiha and Senju. You're saying Hiraishin incorporates both, but that implies Minato is creating things in his own imagination/realm and then breathing life/energy into these forms (and thus, making them real) - that doesn't make sense when you consider the mechanics of his Jikūkan Ninjutsu or the requirements for using both Yin and Yang Release.

Since Yin Release (alone) seems based on Mental energy and illusion-based techniques, and since Hiraishin is almost entirely connected to this plane of reality, I would speculate that if there were to be some sort of nature transformation involved, it would be Yang Release only. If it were to use both sides, it would become more like Izanagi or even Banbutsu Sōzō - it isn't, at all. Looking at it from a general standpoint, it may turn out that S/T techniques in general can't be sectioned under nature transformation. Hiraishin is probably just a clever manipulation of your typical Kuchiyose no Jutsu.

Yin Yang release was considered as the 6th element under nature transformation. It entails the moulding and defining of one's chakra into an innate type of chakra nature, altering its properties and characteristics. In general, every person has chakra that has an affinity towards one of these types. If it's the 6th element of nature transformation there should be someone who has this affinity. I can't recall that only those with Dojutso can perform yin yang release. Minato is very knowledgeable about this to the extent that he was able to separate Yang chakra from kyuubi.

Good work - well done.

Thanks mate

Nope. The ability to use either yang or yin is very possible given what naruto said and yamato replied. [

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Its clearly hinting that either can be achieved and there are techniques that fall under either. But the combination of yin AND yang which is the 6th element is impossible under normal circumstances.


Only people so far that have done this or have been hyped to have this are:
Rikudou sennin
Nagato
Madara
Obito

I don't think having Yin Yang is impossible. If it was considered as the 6th element of nature transformation then there should be someone who has this affinity. Those people above have Dojutsu but nowhere does it states that only those with dojutso can obtain yin yang

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Well the mechanics behind Hirashin has already been explained in the manga; it is simply a reverse summoning jutsu.

It was being said that the principle being used is the same as the summoning as it revolves around the manipulation of time and space.

The Bijuus are made of yin AND yang though(at least we know Kyubi is for sure). Minato seperated his Yin chakra AND his Yang chakra with the shiki fujin by sealing on the yin and negative part of Kyubi

This shows that Minato knows about yin yang to the extent that he can separate a yang chakra from a body.

 

[OnPoint]

Yin Yang release was considered as the 6th element under nature transformation. It entails the moulding and defining of one's chakra into an innate type of chakra nature, altering its properties and characteristics. In general, every person has chakra that has an affinity towards one of these types. If it's the 6th element of nature transformation there should be someone who has this affinity. I can't recall that only those with Dojutso can perform yin yang release. Minato is very knowledgeable about this to the extent that he was able to separate Yang chakra from kyuubi.

Yin-Yang Release is considered the 6th element despite being by far the rarest. It stems from Rikudō Sennin's power. The Elder Son's descendants, the Uchiha, possess the 'Yin' (spiritual energy) whilst the Younger Son's descendants, the Senju, possess the 'Yang' (physical energy). It's through augmenting your DNA that you acquire Yin-Yang Release; you're not just 'born' with this power like you are with Suiton or Doton. It's been said that through extensive years of training it's possible to master the 5 basic transformations, but it's no surprise that Jiraiya said it was impossible for a single person to have all 6 - because unless you're Rikudō Sennin, you're never going to be born with both bloodlines (unless, as speculated, he gained his powers from the Jūbi). Madara achieved In'yōton by transplanting Hashirama's cells into his body; having half a Zetsu body has allowed Obito to achieve the same. Nagato was able to use it because he had the Rinnegan, which provides the wielder with all nature transformations. It isn't something you can just master through training alone.

It's not just for those with dōjutsu; it's for those with the power of the 6 paths - those who have Senju + Uchiha DNA or the Rinnegan. This is why Madara was able to teach Obito In'yōton confident that he could use it without awakening the Rinnegan - because he met the other requirement. Same reason Obito could handle Gedō Mazō without the Samsara eye. Simply having knowledge of Shadow and Light Style doesn't give Minato the ability to use both halves synchronously. Yin-Yang Release isn't in his blood nor does it fit with the way Hiraishin works.

 

[Professor Finesser]

Not all Justus are nature based I mean shadow clone jutsu isn't, body flicker isn't etc etc

 

[BloodSeed]

why are these people disagreeing sounds like they are so certain what they are talking about but in fact they are wrong. these people from the beginning they are wrong thinking that minato is weak. these are the one who disagrees with your thread becuase they hate minato to much they just disgree


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

~Aristotle

 

[ajpn920]

Yin-Yang Release is considered the 6th element despite being by far the rarest. It stems from Rikudō Sennin's power. The Elder Son's descendants, the Uchiha, possess the 'Yin' (spiritual energy) whilst the Younger Son's descendants, the Senju, possess the 'Yang' (physical energy). It's through augmenting your DNA that you acquire Yin-Yang Release; you're not just 'born' with this power like you are with Suiton or Doton. It's been said that through extensive years of training it's possible to master the 5 basic transformations, but it's no surprise that Jiraiya said it was impossible for a single person to have all 6 - because unless you're Rikudō Sennin, you're never going to be born with both bloodlines (unless, as speculated, he gained his powers from the Jūbi). Madara achieved In'yōton by transplanting Hashirama's cells into his body; having half a Zetsu body has allowed Obito to achieve the same. Nagato was able to use it because he had the Rinnegan, which provides the wielder with all nature transformations. It isn't something you can just master through training alone.

It's not just for those with dōjutsu; it's for those with the power of the 6 paths - those who have Senju + Uchiha DNA or the Rinnegan. This is why Madara was able to teach Obito In'yōton confident that he could use it without awakening the Rinnegan - because he met the other requirement. Same reason Obito could handle Gedō Mazō without the Samsara eye. Simply having knowledge of Shadow and Light Style doesn't give Minato the ability to use both halves synchronously. Yin-Yang Release isn't in his blood nor does it fit with the way Hiraishin works.

It remains to be seen. If it's considered an element, then someone can have an affinity to that. Everyone is born with Yin Yang chakra so obtaining that kind of element is not impossible.

What style are you talking about?

1) You still cant see that the scan you provided doesn't help you in anyway? Kakashi says you need nature and shape manipulation to create rasenshuriken. This is all he says. Explain to me how this means every ninjutsu requires either shape or nature transformation?

2) Explain to me how FTG incorporates Yin and Yang release - the power of vitality and imagination (still waiting for your answer).

3)
Eight Branches Technique
Performance of a Hundred Puppets
Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals
Edo Tensei
Summonings
The Chikamatsu Collection of Ten Puppets
Body Flicker technique
Heavenly Transfer Technique

These are all ninjutsu, explain to me where they fall. Are they all Yin-Yang aswell?



Lol, I just like to open the eyes of my fellow NB members when they are mislead

Explain to me how FTG incorporates Yin and Yang release - the power of vitality and imagination (still waiting for your answer)

You have not read my OP properly but okay then i'm in the mood to type. If tsukuyomi which is a yin release can alter time within genjutsu (illusion, not real), then since FTG can also alter time and space in reality then that simply or possibly is a combination of yin yang. Is altering time common in Naruto? We only have 3 users so far (Minato, Obito, Tobirama). Obito can use teleportation because it's his MS ability. Unlike Tsukuyomi which can only alter time within the genjutsu, Obito's Kamui can alter time in the real world.

I'll put it this way..From impossible to possible or from unreal to reality. Isn't it the same with imagination to reality? The thing here is, you are satisfied with just one example from the manga and you don't want to dig deep. I'll bet for real (PM me) that yin yang release can produce different type of techniques and not only that it can give life.

Eight Branches Technique
Performance of a Hundred Puppets
Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals
Edo Tensei
Summonings
The Chikamatsu Collection of Ten Puppets
Body Flicker technique
Heavenly Transfer Technique

These are all ninjutsu, explain to me where they fall. Are they all Yin-Yang aswell?

You're asking me to explain this? Since you don't believe that there are only two methods of manipulating chakra, then where will you put that example of yours? You gave me that example so it means that you are quite certain that those techs does not belong to either shape or nature transformation. What's the 3rd one? Any idea?

Lol, I just like to open the eyes of my fellow NB members when they are mislead

So full of yourself yet you raise this question "Explain to me how this means every ninjutsu requires either shape or nature transformation?" when it's self explanatory.

Don't you know that ninjutsu (when using a technique) requires chakra? and when creating a ninjutsu one has to manipulate the chakra? And in manipulating chakra, there are only two methods mentioned so far? All these years you don't know that? Come on..a self proclaimed smart guy failed to get a grasp of this.. Is that a trait of someone intelligent enough? LOL Don't be so full of yourself kid.

Can you tell me where will you put that example of yours since you don't believe them to fall in either shape or nature. I wonder if there's a 3rd method of manipulating chakra..

Read this scan properly..OK?

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why are these people disagreeing sounds like they are so certain what they are talking about but in fact they are wrong. these people from the beginning they are wrong thinking that minato is weak. these are the one who disagrees with your thread becuase they hate minato to much they just disgree


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

^^true. I remember that these guys just want to bash Minato. Totsuka for example. Still butthurt after a year. Remember the time of Minato vs Itachi thread bro. These are the guys that can't support their claim and would rely on others to save their faces..LOL

Not all Justus are nature based I mean shadow clone jutsu isn't, body flicker isn't etc etc

True..not all are nature based that's why there are two methods to manipulate chakra. If a jutsu requires a chakra then it's common sense that the user should manipulate his chakra to form that jutsu and manipulating chakra has two methods mentioned so far and these are the shape and nature transformation

 

[iSpeak]

You have not read my OP properly but okay then i'm in the mood to type. If tsukuyomi which is a yin release can alter time within genjutsu (illusion, not real), then since FTG can also alter time and space in reality then that simply or possibly is a combination of yin yang. Is altering time common in Naruto? We only have 3 users so far (Minato, Obito, Tobirama). Obito can use teleportation because it's his MS ability. Unlike Tsukuyomi which can only alter time within the genjutsu, Obito's Kamui can alter time in the real world.
I'll put it this way..From impossible to possible or from unreal to reality. Isn't it the same with imagination to reality? The thing here is, you are satisfied with just one example from the manga and you don't want to dig deep. I'll bet for real (PM me) that yin yang release can produce different type of techniques and not only that it can give life.

LMAO, it is clear now you don't understand the concept of Yin and Yang. Time itself has nothing to do with Yin or Yang. Yin is the power that administers illusion. What is Tsukuyomi? an illusion. Having a strong enough and great control over your yin chakra (which all Uchiha have, as they inherited it from the Sage) will allow you to have greater control in your illusion. This is why most if not all of the Uchiha clan are so proficient with genjutsu. Having great control over your Yin allows for greater control in your genjutsu (such as making the illusion seem very similar if not identical to the real world and making it hard to notice/break etc). However, in Itachi's case he was able to master Tsukuyomi with his Yin so well that he was able to manipulate time (amongst other things) within his illusion. KEY WORD "ILLUSION". The Yin chakra simply allows Itachi to further manipulate his genjutsu which is already Yin based. So don't try and compare Tsukuyomi with FTG, unless you are saying FTG is a genjutsu aswell? Thought not. Does FTG contain growth, healing, life giving or incorporate any form of Vitality in it whatsoever like any other Yang technique? No. Is FTG turning Minato's destiny to an illusion and breathing life into that illusion like Izanagi? No. So basically FTG doesn't incorporate Yin or Yang in anyway? Thought so. What does this prove? That FTG is not Yin-Yang related. Simple. Unless you can disprove this? Thought not. Which is why you always tried to avoid the question and gave this answer which blatantly shows you don't know much about it. So please, answer this. How does FTG incorporate Vitality and Illusion into it to make it a Yin-Yang Release based jutsu?

You're asking me to explain this? Since you don't believe that there are only two methods of manipulating chakra, then where will you put that example of yours? You gave me that example so it means that you are quite certain that those techs does not belong to either shape or nature transformation. What's the 3rd one? Any idea?

Yawn, you can't answer my question because you know you are wrong. Using your logic, all the jutsu I listed plus every S rank ninjutsu without an element plus every non shape manipulated ninjutsu without an element would automatically fall under Yin-Yang Release. Do you know how many Yin-Yang users there would be? LMAO. You are trying to look specifically at FTG and disregard all the other ninjutsu because you know it proves your logic wrong. If you think FTG is Yin-Yang related, then using your logic there would be mannnnyyyy Yin-Yang users. Right or wrong?
So please, answer my question. Where do those techniques fall? Is every S rank Ninjutsu without an element Yin-Yang aswell? Please answer my questions and stop trying to avoid them.

So full of yourself yet you raise this question "Explain to me how this means every ninjutsu requires either shape or nature transformation?" when it's self explanatory.
Don't you know that ninjutsu (when using a technique) requires chakra? and when creating a ninjutsu one has to manipulate the chakra? And in manipulating chakra, there are only two methods mentioned so far? All these years you don't know that? Come on..a self proclaimed smart guy failed to get a grasp of this.. Is that a trait of someone intelligent enough? LOL Don't be so full of yourself kid.
Can you tell me where will you put that example of yours since you don't believe them to fall in either shape or nature. I wonder if there's a 3rd method of manipulating chakra..
Read this scan properly..OK?

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First of all, I was the one who showed you that page in your previous thread, so please don't question my knowledge on Naruto.
Second of all as I have said many time before, not all ninjutsu require you to manipulate your chakra to either Shape or Nature. This hasn't been stated anywhere.
Anyway, where does it say you need to manipulate your chakra to either shape or nature?
The scan simply explains that they need to use hand signs (which FTG doesn't even require anyway) to control their chakra. I don't even know why you are posting that pic, it doesn't even mention anything about Nature or Shape in it...
Minato only needs to control his chakra to activate his jutsu, he doesn't need to change it into a shape or nature form.
So please, answer my questions. If you can't, then it just proves you can back up your claims. I have answered everyone of your questions but you are too scared to answer mine even though it is your theory lmao.
So ill keep telling you this, answer my questions.

1. How does FTG relate to Vitality and Illusion?

2. What category do the above jutsu's I mentioned fall into?

Ill start with those two to make it easier for you.

 

[ajpn920]

LMAO, it is clear now you don't understand the concept of Yin and Yang. Time itself has nothing to do with Yin or Yang. Yin is the power that administers illusion. What is Tsukuyomi? an illusion. Having a strong enough and great control over your yin chakra (which all Uchiha have, as they inherited it from the Sage) will allow you to have greater control in your illusion. This is why most if not all of the Uchiha clan are so proficient with genjutsu. Having great control over your Yin allows for greater control in your genjutsu (such as making the illusion seem very similar if not identical to the real world and making it hard to notice/break etc). However, in Itachi's case he was able to master Tsukuyomi with his Yin so well that he was able to manipulate time (amongst other things) within his illusion. KEY WORD "ILLUSION". The Yin chakra simply allows Itachi to further manipulate his genjutsu which is already Yin based. So don't try and compare Tsukuyomi with FTG, unless you are saying FTG is a genjutsu aswell? Thought not. Does FTG contain growth, healing, life giving or incorporate any form of Vitality in it whatsoever like any other Yang technique? No. Is FTG turning Minato's destiny to an illusion and breathing life into that illusion like Izanagi? No. So basically FTG doesn't incorporate Yin or Yang in anyway? Thought so. What does this prove? That FTG is not Yin-Yang related. Simple. Unless you can disprove this? Thought not. Which is why you always tried to avoid the question and gave this answer which blatantly shows you don't know much about it. So please, answer this. How does FTG incorporate Vitality and Illusion into it to make it a Yin-Yang Release based jutsu?



Yawn, you can't answer my question because you know you are wrong. Using your logic, all the jutsu I listed plus every S rank ninjutsu without an element plus every non shape manipulated ninjutsu without an element would automatically fall under Yin-Yang Release. Do you know how many Yin-Yang users there would be? LMAO. You are trying to look specifically at FTG and disregard all the other ninjutsu because you know it proves your logic wrong. If you think FTG is Yin-Yang related, then using your logic there would be mannnnyyyy Yin-Yang users. Right or wrong?
So please, answer my question. Where do those techniques fall? Is every S rank Ninjutsu without an element Yin-Yang aswell? Please answer my questions and stop trying to avoid them.



First of all, I was the one who showed you that page in your previous thread, so please don't question my knowledge on Naruto.
Second of all as I have said many time before, not all ninjutsu require you to manipulate your chakra to either Shape or Nature. This hasn't been stated anywhere.
Anyway, where does it say you need to manipulate your chakra to either shape or nature?
The scan simply explains that they need to use hand signs (which FTG doesn't even require anyway) to control their chakra. I don't even know why you are posting that pic, it doesn't even mention anything about Nature or Shape in it...
Minato only needs to control his chakra to activate his jutsu, he doesn't need to change it into a shape or nature form.
So please, answer my questions. If you can't, then it just proves you can back up your claims. I have answered everyone of your questions but you are too scared to answer mine even though it is your theory lmao.
So ill keep telling you this, answer my questions.

1. How does FTG relate to Vitality and Illusion?

2. What category do the above jutsu's I mentioned fall into?

Ill start with those two to make it easier for you.

Anyway, where does it say you need to manipulate your chakra to either shape or nature?

Still asking that question when I have already given you the scan. It seems that you can't understand after all..no need to reply from you. you can't even answer my questions...

You listed jutsu's that you think did not fall under shape or nature. I questioned you where will you put those jutsus since there are only two ****ing ways of manipulating chakra and to create a jutsu once must manipulate his chakra as shown here AGAIN.

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HEY ISPEAK...F***ING D**B DUDE..Did you even answer my question? WERE YOU ABLE TO SUPPORT EVERY CLAIM YOU MENTIONED??? So far, you have not proven anything!! Read all your post dumbass...You don't have any clue of what you're talking about and you don't even know what LOGICAL SOLUTION is all about...

1. How does FTG relate to Vitality and Illusion?

2. What category do the above jutsu's I mentioned fall into?

Ill start with those two to make it easier for you.

LOOK here dumbass. I questioned what jutsu you think that does not belong to either shape or nature, RIGHT? You gave me a LIST of jutsus..What does it mean? It means that you are certain that those jutsus do not belong to shape or nature. Now, since all of NB members except one ****ing dumbass (YOU) who said that not all jutsus belong to shape or nature, I asked you where will you put those jutsus you have mentioned? Is that hard to get??

You are certain that those jutsus do not belong to shape or nature. SO WHERE DO YOU CATEGORIZE THOSE JUTSUS??

 

[iSpeak]

Still asking that question when I have already given you the scan. It seems that you can't understand after all..no need to reply from you. you can't even answer my questions...
You listed jutsu's that you think did not fall under shape or nature. I questioned you where will you put those jutsus since there are only two ****ing ways of manipulating chakra and to create a jutsu once must manipulate his chakra as shown here AGAIN.

Yawn, point out to me where it mentions NATURE OR SHAPE in that scan. Im waiting...
Oh it doesn't? Exactly.
Does Minato control is chakra? Yes. Does he need to change its Nature or Shape? No. And NOWHERE does it state every ninjutsu has to specifically use shape or nature manipulation.

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HEY ISPEAK...F***ING D**B DUDE..Did you even answer my question? WERE YOU ABLE TO SUPPORT EVERY CLAIM YOU MENTIONED??? So far, you have not proven anything!! Read all your post dumbass...You don't have any clue of what you're talking about and you don't even know what LOGICAL SOLUTION is all about...

Yin-Yang Release is the power of Vitality with illusion.
FTG incorporates neither.
This is as simple as I can make it.
You say FTG in a Yin-Yang Release jutsu, but cant explain how it incorporates Yin-Yang Release lmao. Please delete this useless thread.

LOOK here dumbass. I questioned what jutsu you think that does not belong to either shape or nature, RIGHT? You gave me a LIST of jutsus..What does it mean? It means that you are certain that those jutsus do not belong to shape or nature. Now, since all of NB members except one ****ing dumbass (YOU) who said that not all jutsus belong to shape or nature, I asked you where will you put those jutsus you have mentioned? Is that hard to get??
You are certain that those jutsus do not belong to shape or nature. SO WHERE DO YOU CATEGORIZE THOSE JUTSUS??

Lmao, look at this little cry baby. How can you even have the nerve to call me a kid when you are crying in a debate which you are clearly wrong in. Everybody with the exception of about 2 or 3 people have disagreed with you in this thread. Ever wonder why?
Asking me to answer a question I asked you... just proves you don't have the answer.
Like I said a million times, not every ninjutsu falls into Nature or Shape, only certain ninjutsu do. All of those jutsu I mention are neither Shape or Nature manipulation, same as FTG.
If you think I am wrong, then simply answer where do those jutsu's fall under?

I have asnwered all of your questions and even answered mine. I even went through the trouble of explaining to you exactly what Yin and Yang release is. So now its your turn to answer me.

Im still going to ask these questions untill you answer it for me.

1. How does FTG relate to Vitality and Illusion?

2. What category do the above jutsu's I mentioned fall into?

All you need to do is answer these two questions... not to hard for you is it? Please don't run way from the truth.

 

[ajpn920]

Yawn, point out to me where it mentions NATURE OR SHAPE in that scan. Im waiting...
Oh it doesn't? Exactly.
Does Minato control is chakra? Yes. Does he need to change its Nature or Shape? No. And NOWHERE does it state every ninjutsu has to specifically use shape or nature manipulation.



Lmao, look at this little cry baby. How can you even have the nerve to call me a kid when you are crying in a debate which you are clearly wrong in. Everybody with the exception of about 2 or 3 people have disagreed with you in this thread. Ever wonder why?
Asking me to answer a question I asked you... just proves you don't have the answer.
Like I said a million times, not every ninjutsu falls into Nature or Shape, only certain ninjutsu do. All of those jutsu I mention are neither Shape or Nature manipulation, same as FTG.
If you think I am wrong, then simply answer where do those jutsu's fall under?

I have asnwered all of your questions and even answered mine. I even went through the trouble of explaining to you exactly what Yin and Yang release is. So now its your turn to answer me.

Im still going to ask these questions untill you answer it for me.

1. How does FTG relate to Vitality and Illusion?

2. What category do the above jutsu's I mentioned fall into?

All you need to do is answer these two questions... not to hard for you is it? Please don't run way from the truth.

LOL..crybaby..it's just that I can't believe myself arguing such an kid..if i tell you that those jutsus fall under either shape or nature, what will you do? of course you will disagree right? Since you will disagree then prove to me that i'm wrong. What I need is for you to counter what I have been posting thru legit source like manga scans..if you can't provide that, then there's no need to reply..i've been posting scans to support my claim why can't you? those with half a brain knows who got owned between the two of us..one can provide support (which is me) while the other keeps on bubbling nonsense without support (which is you)..good day and you don't have to reply if you can't prove anything.

 

[iSpeak]

LOL..crybaby..it's just that I can't believe myself arguing such an kid..if i tell you that those jutsus fall under either shape or nature, what will you do? of course you will disagree right? Since you will disagree then prove to me that i'm wrong. What I need is for you to counter what I have been posting thru legit source like manga scans..if you can't provide that, then there's no need to reply..i've been posting scans to support my claim why can't you? those with half a brain knows who got owned between the two of us..one can provide support (which is me) while the other keeps on bubbling nonsense without support (which is you)..good day and you don't have to reply if you can't prove anything.

Still unable to answer my question I see? Yawn.
Do you understand how making a theory works?
You made the theory, so You have to back it up by answering the question that I ask you. But you can't, why? Because you know you are wrong and you don't want to admit it.

if i tell you that those jutsus fall under either shape or nature, what will you do? of course you will disagree right? Since you will disagree then prove to me that i'm wrong.

Since you will disagree then prove to me that i'm wrong.

prove to me

PROVE

Exactly my point, you don't want to answer my question because it PROVES that you are wrong. Thank you for finally admitting this.

those with half a brain knows who got owned between the two of us

Please tell me the names of the people who "know" I got owned by you. Because from what I can tell, the majority of people who posted on this thread disagreed with you.

Anyway, you have already admitted that I will prove you wrong which is why you don't want to answer my questions. You keep trying to avoid them and turn a blind eye to them
Here, ill post it again just to remind you.

1. How does FTG relate to Vitality and Illusion?

2. What category do the above jutsu's I mentioned fall into?

You made the thread and came up with the theory so at least back up your claims by answering the questions people pose to you.