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You wouldn't die as a martyr, since they have control of the media they would convince the entire country you were a terrorist and use your story to gain support in banishing guns.

That is very convincing, they would be the type to pull that.
 

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wehn they do ull be shot cuz they have more ammo, fight a silent battle and attack from the shadows (ever heard of the youtube group (anynamous)

wouldnt knowing about them defeat the purpose of silent battle
 

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If you think about it. Our Bill Of rights are SPEACIALLY MADE for us to be able to fight back against the government. Right to freedom of speech, Bear arms and so and so. Them trying to take one away should be taken personally but there are so many "people" That won't give a fcuk until it is far too late. I feel sorry for you.

.....are you talking to me???? i am more then actively political and try to spread the news of what the governmant has been doing for 100 goddamn years.....but i have realized people are ignorant and deserve to die to rat out the weak and let the smart and strong survive
 

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"if your willing to die for anything you might as well die for nothing" i fergot who quoted this but dont through your life away so easily you can do way more alive then you can do dead

Dying for your country is not dying for anything. Our forefathers knewwhat it ment to be truly free.

"When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fear the people there is freedom." Thomas Jefferson

How many people here are afraid of cops???
Exactly.
 

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If you think about it. Our Bill Of rights are SPEACIALLY MADE for us to be able to fight back against the government. Right to freedom of speech, Bear arms and so and so. Them trying to take one away should be taken personally but there are so many "people" That won't give a fcuk until it is far too late. I feel sorry for you.

Its human nature to not react until you are directly affected. As I said in the edit I made to my earlier post, it will take around 100-150 years, maybe less. Once the government and rich corporation owners have taken all the money, the people will revolt. America will continue go downhill, because the people in power will act as all people in power always have. They will constantly try to gain more wealth and power. Once they have all the wealth and power there will be nothing left for us "commoners" and the people will revolt. It most likely wont be in our lifetimes, but it will happen eventually.
 

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.....are you talking to me???? i am more then actively political and try to spread the news of what the governmant has been doing for 100 goddamn years.....but i have realized people are ignorant and deserve to die to rat out the weak and let the smart and strong survive

lol my bad i was thinking of that other guy that said he is the type that doesn't care. People are ignorant but they need a wake up call. Even if it is staging an event like the gov did with 9/11
 

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Dying for your country is not dying for anything. Our forefathers knewwhat it ment to be truly free.

"When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fear the people there is freedom." Thomas Jefferson

How many people here are afraid of cops???
Exactly.

peopel who refuse to escircse their rights are scared of the cops i know what they cant do so i have no and need no fear of the cops
 

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Its human nature to not react until you are directly affected. As I said in the edit I made to my earlier post, it will take around 100-150 years, maybe less. Once the government and rich corporation owners have taken all the money, the people will revolt. America will continue go downhill, because the people in power will act as all people in power always have. They will constantly try to gain more wealth and power. Once they have all the wealth and power there will be nothing left for us "commoners" and the people will revolt. It most likely wont be in our lifetimes, but it will happen eventually.

I think it could happen in our lifetime.
All thats needed is for the dollar to collapse.

Its already on its way.
Btw, here in Cali there have been a huge AMOUNT of gold buying stores opening up. Sell your gold for cash. Well guess what. Gold is the ONLY hard currency. Dollars represents gold. Which the people have all sold to those companies and all of a sudden the market for gold BOOMS leaving the poor poor and the rich richer.

I do not think its coinincidence. Just because we have not found the points to connect them doesnt means that it is just by chance. It is all one big scheme to take the gold from the people.
 

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Our country is going to fail long before then. Rising debt, rising commodity prices, disappearing middle class, etc.

It still wont make us fall that fast. The people in power will do whatever they can to cling to that power and will draw it out as long as possible. The only thing that will quicken that will be if we get taken over by another country which is unlikely to happen.

peopel who refuse to escircse their rights are scared of the cops i know what they cant do so i have no and need no fear of the cops

The cops have more rights than you think, and they can ignore your rights and get away with it 95% of the time. It is now a prisonable offense to be anywhere near a government official without permission, even if you had no idea they were there. Which means though they can choose to not arrest you, even if you are staying in the same hotel as a governor or something they can give you 10 years in prison just because they feel like it, its a new law that was just passed this year. And though there are laws to protect people against cops violating their rights, 99% of the time if they manage to find you doing even the tiniest thing illegal, your case wont hold up in court. Even if they illegally found you doing something illegal. Every year more and more laws get passed that take our rights as citizens away. They can now monitor us whenever they want, they can tap our phones our computers anything just because they feel like it, they can put cameras up, they can arrest and detain us at will, even without charges being pressed. This will continue to get worse and worse until the people cant take it anymore.
 

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It still wont make us fall that fast. The people in power will do whatever they can to cling to that power and will draw it out as long as possible. The only thing that will quicken that will be if we get taken over by another country which is unlikely to happen.



The cops have more rights than you think, and they can ignore your rights and get away with it 95% of the time. It is now a prisonable offense to be anywhere near a government official without permission, even if you had no idea they were there. Which means though they can choose to not arrest you, even if you are staying in the same hotel as a governor or something they can give you 10 years in prison just because they feel like it, its a new law that was just passed this year. And though there are laws to protect people against cops violating their rights, 99% of the time if they manage to find you doing even the tiniest thing illegal, your case wont hold up in court. Even if they illegally found you doing something illegal. Every year more and more laws get passed that take our rights as citizens away. They can now monitor us whenever they want, they can tap our phones our computers anything just because they feel like it, they can put cameras up, they can arrest and detain us at will, even without charges being pressed. This will continue to get worse and worse until the people cant take it anymore.

It is called the indefinite detention claus. Its the right to detain ANY citizen for any reason. No trials or charges have to be present. Even if you go to court. It will not be a court for you to be innocent it will be one of their choice without a jury. Your fcuked if it happens.
 

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Read this.
 

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we know they lie

if you want the true news dont listen to those guys but listen to a few media: i watch local + BBC + Al Jazeera + CNN: and than decide on what you want to believe and create YOUR OWN opinion
 
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