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Wonder where Rasta went? Haven't heard a reply since that killer post! :lol

Why should he return? Necro and himself already /thread. Delusional people like yourself nick01 that netflix thing ★AniCetuS havent posted any feats of Hinata doing anything relevant. Have shown a speed feat, a win, anything... just scans of other ninja doing things. Who has hinata beat? What has she done beside have Naruto children? She's done nothing. Hanabi>Hinata and im not even joking.

Necro owned all of you Rasta added insult to injury and you posted scans of Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura, Neji, Guy, Kakashi like a half scan of hinata doing nothing. You LOST. Hinata would DIE in a 1v1 fight Shes not a fighter like neji shes not a genius like neji she'll never be neji. Sakura feats alone kills hinata under 7 mins. If you think Hinata can take 1 punch from sakura you need to be mental hospital

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No fandom hypes up a trash character like the Hinatards do to this extent. Yes there are a few that also foolishly hype characters like Sakura up who by the way is not a good character herself but they are much smaller in number than the Hinatards. Frankly someone who reads the story for what it is meant to appeal to which is action must thing this fandom fight is nuts arguing which character that sucks at fighting is a little less weak.

Then why are you even on this thread? :lmao:
 

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No, because facts say so. Hinata's reflexes are ages above Sakura's.

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More Chakra = Better Reflexes & Speed

With Sakura, we see that, when she is attempting to revive the fallen Naruto, she specifically points out her Chakra levels are super low, despite already having the Yin Seal, forcing her to go from using the Mystic Palm Technique to simply attempting CPR.

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Yet, later, we still see her use a massive amount of Chakra to help save Sasuke. This means that, despite her Chakra levels being greater than a Rikudo Naruto Shadow Clone’s levels, Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases, akin to how Naruto does not have access to all the Chakra of the Nine Tails in Part 1, though she can still transfer it to others, likely because, like Madara with Kaguya, her body is unable to handle so much Chakra actually being in her system and instead she must rely on extracting small amounts from the seal, amounts that she herself can actually handle.

Thus, Yin Seal does not affect her speed or her reflexes.

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Also, Sakura and Hinata ended up running out of Chakra at the exact same time, yet Hinata was on the battle field for 48 hours straight, in arguably the most chaotic area of the war due to the Zetsus, while Sakura was chilling in the medic corps tents. This is also another indication of her superior Chakra levels.

Of course, there is a far better and more direct comparison of Sakura and Hinata’s Chakra levels in The Last. We see Hinata recover Naruto’s drained Chakra pool within an instant, not even showing any signs of fatigue either, while Sakura takes three whole days to do so with every ounce of her Chakra, whereupon she is so exhausted to the point that she’s forced to lie down herself. Sure, you can argue that Naruto was completely unconscious with Sakura while he was merely on his knees with Hinata, but that doesn’t change the MASSIVE difference in the time and the resulting fatigue of both girls, which is non-existent in Hinata’s case. Not to mention Sakura, again, isn't able to tap into all of the Yin Seal's chakra as she pleases for her OWN use.

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Here we see Kakashi with his Sharingan activated in order to keep up with Lee’s movements, and we also see Neji doing the same. Obviously, this means the reason he has his Byakugan activated is to also be able to keep up with Lee.

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Later, we see another example of this with Hinata when Obito becomes the Ten Tails Jinchuriki. The transformation is seen twice, one normally, and one through Hinata’s eyes.

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Notice how in Hinata’s vision, there are far more panels used to display Obito sealing the Juubi? This indicates that Hinata too was using the Byakugan’s ability to keep track of high-speed movement, allowing her to see the Juubi being sealed away in detail. Moreover, Hinata notes that there were at least two ways she was able to tell the Juubi was absorbed by Obito, as she says “Judging by the Chakra as well”, meaning there would have been another method to how she knew the Juubi was sealed, that being that she simply saw it happen.

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64 Palms is a true testament to Hinata’s amazing taijutsu prowess.

Notice what Kakashi says. REGARDLESS of having penetrative vision, to be able to hit the Chakra Points in the heat of battle is something this man finds amazing. And this is Kakashi simply speaking of the Gentle Fist itself, not even the 64 Palms, a combo attack that pushes the Gentle Fist to its limit.

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With 64 Palms, Hinata needs to react, aim, and move fast enough to align the tiny chakra points at the edge of her fingers which are as small as the tip of a needle with the various equally tiny chakra points on an opponents body 64 times, all while maneuvering around in the heat of battle in a manner and speed so as to prevent her opponent from escaping her combo attack. Not only that, but the attack starts with 2 jabs and ultimately ends with 32 jabs, meaning Hinata is capable of dishing out 32 jabs in a matter of a second or two. Pretty sure that qualifies as better reflexes, precision, and skill than getting kicked by Omoi, a fodder in Taijutsu. but yeah, Sakura's reflexes are better.

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Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.

With Sakura, it’s nothing impressive. She fights off a bunch of maiden puppets that were designed for service rather than combat, and her taijutsu itself doesn’t come off as that impressive when noticing that all the maiden puppets just fly towards her with no coherence.

With Hinata, she fights against the same puppets that gave Hiashi and Naruto trouble. During the fight, with no Byakugan abilities and pure taijutsu, she redirects the momentum of one of the puppets, sending it flying, dodges an attack from above before proceeding to double kick two other puppets and black flips off of one of them into the air. Landing, she then, without even seeing it, dodges a puppet who attacks her from behind, and finally proceeds to take on two other puppets before being stopped by Toneri. Heck, she even manages to incorporate kicks into her fighting style such a thing isn’t even PART of the Gentle Fist Style.

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Two quotes to note from here.

“Even if you can see it, if your body can’t move, there’s nothing you can do”

"I wouldn't run with that speed straight towards into my opponent in that manner. A straight forward attack makes it easy for the opponent to counter”

We know that not only can Hinata keep track of high speed, but her taijutsu is also very fast, evidenced by the 64 Palms, again, as noted above, and the Air Palm, which is noted as being a very fast strike. Sakura herself is nothing more than a straightforward fighter, often doing nothing more than dishing out simple punches that hold very little value or worth in a legitimate taijutsu battle, as shown time and time again.

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Literally the exact same pose and punch every damn time.

Compare that to someone who can rapidly and accurately hit 64 tiny points in battle, and all the evidence is in favor of Hinata in a taijutsu fight, even IF Sakura’s foot speed is faster, simply because Hinata’s eyes would keep track of such speed and her superior, faster, and more dynamic taijutsu would allow her to counter such speed and mundane combat skills, and, as Lee said, Sakura's speed would not matter because running straight forward at high speeds towards an opponent is asking to get your rear handed to you, especially one like Hinata, who could keep track of such speed and react instantly.

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Sakura admits her reaction time isn’t that great either, and before any chime in about it being early Part 2, no. We literally never see her improve any of her skills all through out Part 2, we get no evidence of her training to improve her taijutsu prowess, so there is no reason to assume it did. Instant reaction means reacting to things at close range, such as Sasori's poison needles, and we see her fail this three times later down the line with Omoi, a Zetsu, and a Wooden Spike, the same Wooden Spike Hinata DOES manage to react to at close range.

And, of course, Chiyo states you need plenty of fighting experience for such things, and last I recall, Hinata was the one who spends her time constantly in grueling training, even trained with Neji, and was the one fighting on the front lines of the war, unlike Sakura. Again, evidence this with her 64 Palms, which requires great accuracy, speed, and reaction time to implement properly, and we have even more evidence of Hinata’s superior reflexes.

Some badly need to get informed.
 

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Some badly need to get informed.

When has Hinata beat anyone again. I seem to remember during the war arc Hinata on her knees about to be killed by fodder white zetsu and they weren't even transforming to trick her they were just straight white zetsu and they almost killed her she is so weak.
 

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Why should he return? Necro and himself already /thread. Delusional people like yourself nick01 that netflix thing ★AniCetuS havent posted any feats of Hinata doing anything relevant. Have shown a speed feat, a win, anything... just scans of other ninja doing things. Who has hinata beat? What has she done beside have Naruto children? She's done nothing. Hanabi>Hinata and im not even joking.

Necro owned all of you Rasta added insult to injury and you posted scans of Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura, Neji, Guy, Kakashi like a half scan of hinata doing nothing. You LOST. Hinata would DIE in a 1v1 fight Shes not a fighter like neji shes not a genius like neji she'll never be neji. Sakura feats alone kills hinata under 7 mins. If you think Hinata can take 1 punch from sakura you need to be mental hospital

Sakura>>>>>>>>Hinata

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Useless hyuuga fodder cant even use rotation. Either way sakura stomps.



Once again Hinata is trash but her incessant western fans are worse than trash. They are the worst fandom in anime in my opinion. No fandom spews more hate and irrationally praises a trash charcter like they do. To me by herself Hinata is a meh character I would never even care about but her fandom makes me despise her.

The perfect illustration of the sakura fandom^^^^, in one word would that be : :salt:
 

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When has Hinata beat anyone again.

Ditto for Sakura.

I seem to remember during the war arc Hinata on her knees about to be killed by fodder white zetsu and they weren't even transforming to trick her they were just straight white zetsu and they almost killed her she is so weak.

Wrong. Also 3 Zetsu VS one. One tired from 2 days of combat VS one sitting around in a tent. M kay.
 
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When has Hinata beat anyone again. I seem to remember during the war arc Hinata on her knees about to be killed by fodder white zetsu and they weren't even transforming to trick her they were just straight white zetsu and they almost killed her she is so weak.

I think my memory is as good as yours. I just somehow fared better with manners and comprehension.
 

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in my unbiased opinion there is no way for sakura to defeat hinata...her hand to hand combat sucks and hinata can turn off her chakra or kill her by one-shotting any one of her chakra points...unless sakura all of a sudden has long-range ninjutsu now...lmaooo
 

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There's always these types of threads
 

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No, because facts say so. Hinata's reflexes are ages above Sakura's.

No their not, I need a feat that surpasses these..

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More Chakra = Better Reflexes & Speed

Who says Hinata has more Chakra? Sakura has a 20+ year old seal on her head that continuously store chakra and we haven't see her reopen since the war but more then that Sakura was never said to have low reserves on the first place.

With Sakura, we see that, when she is attempting to revive the fallen Naruto, she specifically points out her Chakra levels are super low, despite already having the Yin Seal, forcing her to go from using the Mystic Palm Technique to simply attempting CPR.

(1) Sakura was referring to her base chakra and her base chakra was exhausted because of her prior obligated feats where they were greatly taxed. (2) the seal has to be open in order for sakura to use the chakra in it and as you can clearly see it was not but it wouldn't have mattered if she did use its chakra. Naruto didn't have a clinical injury?; Medical ninjutsu
was pointless because is body was dying because the kyuubi's chakra was removed. The most she could do is keep us body functioning until the nesserary chakra was given back to him.

Yet, later, we still see her use a massive amount of Chakra to help save Sasuke. This means that, despite her Chakra levels being greater than a Rikudo Naruto Shadow Clone’s levels, Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases

Again your misconstrued, Sakura didn't use her seal or release its her chakra into her body to save Naruto because medical ninjutsu (which you need chakra for) wasn't going to sustain his life.

Your fanfic of "Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases" doesn't hold any creditably and is easily countered. Sakura literally controlled the seals chakra in the form of regeneration almost a instantly..m l


Akin to how Naruto does not have access to all the Chakra of the Nine Tails in Part 1, though she can still transfer it to others, likely because, like Madara with Kaguya, her body is unable to handle so conclusion

much Chakra actually being in her system and instead she must rely on extracting small amounts from the seal, amounts that she herself can actually handle.

None of this applies, read the above.

Thus, Yin Seal does not affect her speed or her reflexes.

By your logic it does, heard of Yin Seal: Release? It directly pumps vast amounts of chakra into the users body and amplifies their jutsu.

Also, Sakura and Hinata ended up running out of Chakra at the exact same time, yet Hinata was on the battle field for 48 hours straight, in arguably the most chaotic area of the war due to the Zetsus, while Sakura was chilling in the medic corps tents. This is also another indication of her superior Chakra levels.

Your very flawed in this argument.. Sakura was healing/amplfing atttacks throughout the entire war even when she wasn't on a scan doing it (while still sending chakra to her her forehead in order to many fest the seal). You know medical ninjutsu taxes chakra greatly and just like chakra transfer does. If anything, it's comendable that she was able to still seems chakra one place while using that same chakra in another place. Superior my ass..

Of course, there is a far better and more direct comparison of Sakura and Hinata’s Chakra levels in The Last. We see Hinata recover Naruto’s drained Chakra pool within an instant, not even showing any signs of fatigue either, while Sakura takes three whole days to do so with every ounce of her Chakra, whereupon she is so exhausted to the point that she’s forced to lie down herself.

And? Hinata just transferred what was already transferred to her and that's the end of it. You can't use Hinata borrowing chakra from Hamura's (which she doesn't currently have) and compare it to Sakura's chakra control and or harboring in a combative situation.


Not to mention Sakura, again, isn't able to tap into all of the Yin Seal's chakra as she pleases for her OWN use.

Already debunked this.


Why wasn't Hinata able to elaborate or hypothesize on Tobi's teleportation jutsu even with her Byakugan active?

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Sakura has already proven that she can out preform Hinata's Byakugan, the only thing she has on over Sakura in the situation you posted and mine is Hinata's actual vision. Sakura can out think & preform Hinata even with her vision.

64 Palms is a true testament to Hinata’s amazing taijutsu prowess.

Notice what Kakashi says. REGARDLESS of having penetrative vision, to be able to hit the Chakra Points in the heat of battle is something this man finds amazing. And this is Kakashi simply speaking of the Gentle Fist itself, not even the 64 Palms, a combo attack that pushes the Gentle Fist to its limit.

Hinata has to touch Sakura for any of that to apply and she doesn't, Sakura has far better speed feats and evasion feats to match. Hinata isn't touching Sakura and with that being said, Hinata's life depends on Hinata landing anything on Sakura if their face to face because one punch from Sakura reduces Hinata into a puddle. Plus as it's been stated, Sakura doesn't have to make direct contact with Hinata for Hinata to be subject to the affects of Sakura's punch. It not only destroys everything in its path drastically.


With 64 Palms, Hinata needs to react, aim, and move fast enough to align the tiny chakra points at the edge of her fingers which are as small as the tip of a needle with the various equally tiny chakra points on an opponents body 64 times, all while maneuvering around in the heat of battle in a manner and speed so as to prevent her opponent from escaping her combo attack. Not only that, but the attack starts with 2 jabs and ultimately ends with 32 jabs, meaning Hinata is capable of dishing out 32 jabs in a matter of a second or two. Pretty sure that qualifies as better reflexes, precision, and skill than getting kicked by Omoi, a fodder in Taijutsu. but yeah, Sakura's reflexes are better.

Hold onto Sakura being kicked by omoi, because since then Sakura has proven to be well beyond it currently. Please provide me a scan of Hinata using superior speed while blitzing/ambushing someone faster or more direct then Sakura...

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OT even omoi hasnt moved that fast.

Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.

With Sakura, it’s nothing impressive. She fights off a bunch of maiden puppets that were designed for service rather than combat, and her taijutsu itself doesn’t come off as that impressive when noticing that all the maiden puppets just fly towards her with no coherence.

Not impressive? Not made to combat?

Sit down please (1) Sakura maneuvering and fast pace movie ts were very impressive. Did you see how fast she was moving (agility)? And the shock waves behind her fist? Lmao Hinata didn't move that fast in the least lol

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Sakura's taijutsu was absolutely refined in the last.

With Hinata, she fights against the same puppets that gave Hiashi and Naruto trouble. During the fight, with no Byakugan abilities and pure taijutsu, she redirects the momentum of one of the puppets, sending it flying, dodges an attack from above before proceeding to double kick two other puppets and black flips off of one of them into the air. Landing, she then, without even seeing it, dodges a puppet who attacks her from behind, and finally proceeds to take on two other puppets before being stopped by Toneri. Heck, she even manages to incorporate kicks into her fighting style such a thing isn’t even PART of the Gentle Fist Style.

Wimp Womp, Sakura soloed fighting puppets in part one (much better or stronger puppets) and she was soloing a lot more too.

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We know that not only can Hinata keep track of high speed, but her taijutsu is also very fast, evidenced by the 64 Palms, again, as noted above, and the Air Palm, which is noted as being a very fast strike. Sakura herself is nothing more than a straightforward fighter, often doing nothing more than dishing out simple punches that hold very little value or worth in a legitimate taijutsu battle, as shown time and time again.

Sakura punches hold little value? You do understand that Sakura destroy the ground (kilometers) from beneath Hinata while not attacking "straight forward" that's is. Sakura was meters away from Kakashi put he was subject to her punch (reviled his location). No value?

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One punch from Sakura not only leveled the landscape she also took out over a dozen Juubi clones at once with the same punch. No value?

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Hinata isn't going to be able to combat Sakura directly while dealing with the massive debris all around her (maneuvering through) and that innately creates an opening for Sakura (who's proven to navigate herself through her own destruction). Again the effects of a punch from Sakura easily overhelms Hinata's byakugan, also keep in mind that Sakura was already out preformed Hinata with her byakugan active.

Literally the exact same pose and punch every damn time.

Compare that to someone who can rapidly and accurately hit 64 tiny points in battle, and all the evidence is in favor of Hinata in a taijutsu fight, even IF Sakura’s foot speed is faster, simply because Hinata’s eyes would keep track of such speed and her superior, faster, and more dynamic taijutsu would allow her to counter such speed and mundane combat skills.

I agree that Sakura taijutsu isn't as refined but you saying Hinata can keep up with fast movement doesn't mean she can keep up with any fast movements or agility. Like you pointed Sakura is faster then Hinata (which gives her a leg up) but the part you rmissing is that Sakura isn't a statue and her punches are fast enough to land even though she doesn't need to land them directly in order to derail Hinata. Sakura punches come with shock waves and can destroy the ground beneath you, which in Sakura's case can through Hinata off balance which can make her taijutsu not so refined because she has other elements that she has to combat or pay attention too can she keep up?

This (scan below) is enough to break Hinata's direct focus on Sakura.

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Hinata would have to focus on both evading the massive debris and her Sakura, that's enough to make her taijutsu less refined.

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Sakura admits her reaction time isn’t that great either, and before any chime in about it being early Part 2, no.

Again your misconstruing facts... Sakura never insinuated that reaction time or speed was bad by physical means. She was simply commenting on the fact that she had zero knowlage/Intel of the hidden traps and compartments/mechanisms to sasori's human puppet and by not having that she would be at a natural disadvantage. How can you react to something that could or couldn't be there? They were raking about any type of physicality, it was completely on sasori and his puppet...

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Anyway your once again taking things out of context.


We literally never see her improve any of her skills all through out Part 2, we get no evidence of her training to improve her taijutsu prowess, so there is no reason to assume it did. Instant reaction means reacting to things at close range, such as Sasori's poison needles, and we see her fail this three times later down the line with Omoi, a Zetsu, and a Wooden Spike, the same Wooden Spike Hinata DOES manage to react to at close range.

Your wrong, after her fight with sasori and her interaction with omoi she did indeed show improvements. Your just being dismissive to better suit your argument....

One example.

Sakura was pumping large amounts of chakra into Obito to open dimensions which puts a lot of pressure on her Neither Sakura nor Obito expected acid to start pouring out and by the time they realized what was happening, the acid had already started to pour out. The portal was only about 3 m away from them and by the time the acid started pouring out, the distance between the acid and the duo was only 2 m . At this point
, Sakura didn't even have her hands on Obito but she managed to grab him, turn around and leap out of the way all the while only getting grazed by the acid. She performed multiple tasks in a split second which gives her nice reaction. All in all, Sakura should be able to react to Hinata's attacks from 5+ m, as long as Sakura is that competent.
 
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No their not, I need a feat that surpasses these..

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Sakura has already proven that she can out preform Hinata's Byakugan, the only thing she has on over Sakura in the situation you posted and mine is Hinata's actual vision. Sakura can out think & preform Hinata even with her vision.

You had great points and I'm not the type go on and addressed each of them.
The only thing I want to tackle, and everything else sounds okay to me, is how are they considered as feats? Sakura dodging the chakra limb and acid are hardly a feat. I understand it is in the context of good reflexes and all. But every ninja in her level should at least have that skill. And I doubt Hinata doesn't possess that. She has a freaking Byakugan. What Sakura did was simply knock Obito out the way. That is totally insignificant, only shown for dramatic trigger.
 

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My question is then when has Hinata beat anyone again?

I thought I already answered, unless you remember something Hinata did.
Since you wanted me to answer never, then here I say never in the series has Hinata beaten anyone on her own.
I hope that satisfies you.

Again,Maybe I fared better with comprehension.
 

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Once again Hinata is trash but her incessant western fans are worse than trash. They are the worst fandom in anime in my opinion. No fandom spews more hate and irrationally praises a trash charcter like they do. To me by herself Hinata is a meh character I would never even care about but her fandom makes me despise her.

Lmao. I agree. bs makes no sense to me either
 

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Who says Hinata has more Chakra? Sakura has a 20+ year old seal on her head that continuously store chakra and we haven't see her reopen since the war but more then that Sakura was never said to have low reserves on the first place.



(1) Sakura was referring to her base chakra and her base chakra was exhausted because of her prior obligated feats where they were greatly taxed. (2) the seal has to be open in order for sakura to use the chakra in it and as you can clearly see it was not but it wouldn't have mattered if she did use its chakra. Naruto didn't have a clinical injury?; Medical ninjutsu
was pointless because is body was dying because the kyuubi's chakra was removed. The most she could do is keep us body functioning until the nesserary chakra was given back to him.



Again your misconstrued, Sakura didn't use her seal or release its her chakra into her body to save Naruto because medical ninjutsu (which you need chakra for) wasn't going to sustain his life.

Your fanfic of "Sakura does not have access to ALL of the Chakra in her seal whenever she pleases" doesn't hold any creditably and is easily countered. Sakura literally controlled the seals chakra in the form of regeneration almost a instantly..m l




None of this applies, read the above.



By your logic it does, heard of Yin Seal: Release? It directly pumps vast amounts of chakra into the users body and amplifies their jutsu.



Your very flawed in this argument.. Sakura was healing/amplfing atttacks throughout the entire war even when she wasn't on a scan doing it (while still sending chakra to her her forehead in order to many fest the seal). You know medical ninjutsu taxes chakra greatly and just like chakra transfer does. If anything, it's comendable that she was able to still seems chakra one place while using that same chakra in another place. Superior my ass..



And? Hinata just transferred what was already transferred to her and that's the end of it. You can't use Hinata borrowing chakra from Hamura's (which she doesn't currently have) and compare it to Sakura's chakra control and or harboring in a combative situation.




Already debunked this.



Why wasn't Hinata able to elaborate or hypothesize on Tobi's teleportation jutsu even with her Byakugan active?

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Sakura has already proven that she can out preform Hinata's Byakugan, the only thing she has on over Sakura in the situation you posted and mine is Hinata's actual vision. Sakura can out think & preform Hinata even with her vision.



Hinata has to touch Sakura for any of that to apply and she doesn't, Sakura has far better speed feats and evasion feats to match. Hinata isn't touching Sakura and with tag being said, Hinata's life depends on Hinata landing anything in Sakura if their face to face because one punch from Sakura reduces Hinata into a puddle. Plus as it's been stated, Sakura doesn't have to make direct contact with Hinata for Hinata to be subject to the affects of Sakura's punch. It not only destroys everything in its path drastically.




Hold onto Sakura being kicked by omoi, because since then Sakura has proven to be well beyond it currently. Please provide me a scan of Hinata using superior speed while blitzing/ambushing someone faster or more direct then Sakura...

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OT even omoi hasnt moved that fast.

Then there is their short taijutsu feats in The Last.



Not impressive? Not made to combat?

Sit down please (1) Sakura maneuvering and fast pace movie ts were very impressive. Did you see how fast she was moving (agility)? And the shock waves behind her fist? Lmao Hinata didn't move that fast in the least lol

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Sakura's taijutsu was absolutely refined in the last.



Wimp Womp, Sakura soloed fighting puppets in part one (much better or stronger puppets) and she was soloing a lot more too.

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Sakura punches hold little value? You do understand that Sakura destroy the ground (kilometers) from beneath Hinata while not attacking "straight forward" that's is. Sakura was meters away from Kakashi put he was subject to her punch (reviled his location). No value?

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One punch from Sakura not only leveled the landscape she also took out over a dozen Juubi clones at once with the same punch. No value?

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Hinata isn't going to be able to combat Sakura directly while dealing with the massive debris all around her (maneuvering through) and that innately creates an opening for Sakura (who's proven to navigate herself through her own destruction). Again the effects of a punch from Sakura easily overhelms Hinata's byakugan, also keep in mind that Sakura was already out preformed Hinata with her byakugan active.



I agree that Sakura taijutsu isn't as refined but you saying Hinata can keep up with fast movement doesn't mean she can keep up with any fast movements or agility. Like you pointed Sakura is faster then Hinata (which gives her a leg up) but the part you rmissing is that Sakura isn't a statue and her punches are fast enough to land even though she doesn't need to land them directly in order to derail Hinata. Sakura punches come with shock waves and can destroy the ground beneath you, which in Sakura's case can through Hinata off balance which can make her taijutsu not so refined because she has other elements that she has to combat or pay attention too can she keep up?

This (scan below) is enough to break Hinata's direct focus on Sakura.

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Hinata would have to focus on both evading the massive debris and her Sakura, that's enough to make her taijutsu less refined.



Again your misconstruing facts... Sakura never insinuated that reaction time or speed was bad by physical means. She was simply commenting on the fact that she had zero knowlage/Intel of the hidden traps and compartments/mechanisms to sasori's human puppet and by not having that she would be at a natural disadvantage. How can you react to something that could or couldn't be there? They were raking about any type of physicality, it was completely on sasori and his puppet...

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Anyway your once again taking things out of context.




Your wrong, after her fight with sasori and her interaction with omoi she did indeed show improvements. Your just being dismissive to better suit your argument....

One example.

Sakura was pumping large amounts of chakra into Obito to open dimensions which puts a lot of pressure on her Neither Sakura nor Obito expected acid to start pouring out and by the time they realized what was happening, the acid had already started to pour out. The portal was only about 3 m away from them and by the time the acid started pouring out, the distance between the acid and the duo was only 2 m . At this point
, Sakura didn't even have her hands on Obito but she managed to grab him, turn around and leap out of the way all the while only getting grazed by the acid. She performed multiple tasks in a split second which gives her nice reaction. All in all, Sakura should be able to react to Hinata's attacks from 5+ m, as long as Sakura is that competent.

in half those scans sakura was being controlled by chiyo...her reflexes aren't REALLY that impressive...especially from a hand to hand combat standpoint
 

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My question is then when has Hinata beat anyone again?

1. you might wanna press "center" on that sig...and 2. you're telling me that this thread rustled you so much you had to get a sig of hinata getting owned by a legendary-tier?...lololololololol
 
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