Uchiha vs Ōtsutsuki

[makosheva7]

Hagoromo > DRS Madara > Rinnegan Sasuke > Hamura >= Toneri = Juubito

Hagoromo beats Madara. Sasuke beats Hamura. Toneri beats Juubito. Sasuke beats Toneri. Hagoromo beats Sasuke.

Seams Otsotsuki win. Power scaling of last three are debatable though.

 

[Omar19992010]

I'm gonna bump this.

 

[-immortal-]

I am going witg uchiha's because manga has clearly stated a couple of easy things.




1. Madara has to be sealed by both moon and sun.

If you read OP this is Post shinju tree thus he cannot be killed.


2. Rinnegan sasuke absolutly Babyshakes hamuro.

Sasuke has obviously more raw power going by both hype and feats even.


Going by what toneri showed but then hamuro a couple of tiers higher i assume?

What is he gone do? Moon laser the earth?

Shits get oblitirated by sasuke speed sasuke can dodge that sht no diff.

He should be far more faster since he has amenotejikara.

Oh wait we are even given sasuke all bijuu's?

Indra arrow babyshakes hamuro :lol



Toneri is non factor Jubito roflstomps him.


Madara and hagoromo should be around equal since hagormo doesnt have the ten tails.

Madara was stated almost kaguya lvl post shinju tree




Uchiha wins high diff because hagomor former babyshakes

 

[ARGUS]

I am going witg uchiha's because manga has clearly stated a couple of easy things.




1. Madara has to be sealed by both moon and sun.

If you read OP this is Post shinju tree thus he cannot be killed.

Hagoromo and Hamura have the seals

2. Rinnegan sasuke absolutly Babyshakes hamuro.

Yeah, no he doesnt,
Base Hamura = Base Hagoromo who gave half of his power to sasuke,
TCM Hamura >> Base Hamura ,
so its the other way around,

Sasuke has obviously more raw power going by both hype and feats even.

Portrayal puts Hamura above sasuke,
we cant use feats because hamura doesnt have any

Going by what toneri showed but then hamuro a couple of tiers higher i assume?

Hamura without the TCM was equivalent to Non Jin hagoromo, who is the main source of sasukes power,
with the TCM he is well well above the likes of Toneri and Sasuke

What is he gone do? Moon laser the earth?

Shits get oblitirated by sasuke speed sasuke can dodge that sht no diff.

Im going to ignore this bull shit

He should be far more faster since he has amenotejikara.

Amenotejikara is only good to an extent if sasukes reactions are faster than hamuras,
which they probably wont be, hell he wont be more reflexive than even hagoromo who has RSM

Oh wait we are even given sasuke all bijuu's?

Indra arrow babyshakes hamuro :lol

Another assumption with no proof

Toneri is non factor Jubito roflstomps him.

Based on what?
Toneri obliterates juubito based on what he has shown

Madara and hagoromo should be around equal since hagormo doesnt have the ten tails.

Hagoromo still beats him

Madara was stated almost kaguya lvl post shinju tree

Yeah no he wasnt, and never will be

Uchiha wins high diff because hagomor former babyshakes

Hagoromo and Hamura are above any of the uchihas, and toneri is enough of a back up to help them clear juubito
they win mid diff

 

[Omar19992010]

Hagoromo and Hamura have the seals


Yeah, no he doesnt,
Base Hamura = Base Hagoromo who gave half of his power to sasuke,
TCM Hamura >> Base Hamura ,
so its the other way around,


Portrayal puts Hamura above sasuke,
we cant use feats because hamura doesnt have any


Hamura without the TCM was equivalent to Non Jin hagoromo, who is the main source of sasukes power,
with the TCM he is well well above the likes of Toneri and Sasuke


Im going to ignore this bull shit


Amenotejikara is only good to an extent if sasukes reactions are faster than hamuras,
which they probably wont be, hell he wont be more reflexive than even hagoromo who has RSM


Another assumption with no proof



Based on what?
Toneri obliterates juubito based on what he has shown


Hagoromo still beats him


Yeah no he wasnt, and never will be




Hagoromo and Hamura are above any of the uchihas, and toneri is enough of a back up to help them clear juubito
they win mid diff

Shouldn't Hamura with Tenseigan be on par with Non-Jin Hagoromo because I don't see how a byakugan with Six Paths Senjutsu is equal to a Rinnegan plus Six Paths Senjutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Shouldn't Hamura with Tenseigan be on par with Non-Jin Hagoromo because I don't see how a byakugan with Six Paths Senjutsu is equal to a Rinnegan plus Six Paths Senjutsu.

Bad logic considering Dojutsu level=/=Level of person and their techniques. Kaguya w/ Byakugan alone shits on almost every god tier, including those with Rinnegan.

 

[Veggie the Tormentor]

Uh, Uchiha stomp. Madara, Sasuke, and Obito pool their chakra into whoever they feel like watching rape the Otsutsuki. Juubito and Madara are immortal. Seals will probably only work once and the other two can just unseal the person who gets sealed. Hamura's blitzed or Hagoromo's blitzed. Infinite Tsukiyomi or lack of seals for Juubito and Madara win out after killing one of the bros, ignoring the huge chakra differences between the teams. Not to mention, Madara and Obito don't mind robbing eyes, so Toneri's power-up candy. Madara teaches how to use Rinnegan fully to Sasuke, or they steal the knowledge from Hagoromo whom they all attack first. Hagoromo's a pacifist along with Hamura.

 

[ARGUS]

Shouldn't Hamura with Tenseigan be on par with Non-Jin Hagoromo because I don't see how a byakugan with Six Paths Senjutsu is equal to a Rinnegan plus Six Paths Senjutsu.

nah, manga shows us that Non Jin hagoromo was on par with Byakugan Hamura,
Rinnegan > Byakugan doesnt hold any credit, because its all dependent on the user himself,
because like KG said, Kaguya with Byakugan alone would take a dump on pretty much any rinnegan user,

after their fight with kaguya, hagoromo gained the juubi, whilst hamura gained the TCM
so TCM Hamura would be above Non Jin hagoromo, comfortably, considering how much stronger toneri got after gaining the TCM,

 

[-immortal-]

Hagoromo and Hamura have the seals


Yeah, no he doesnt,
Base Hamura = Base Hagoromo who gave half of his power to sasuke,
TCM Hamura >> Base Hamura ,
so its the other way around,


Portrayal puts Hamura above sasuke,
we cant use feats because hamura doesnt have any


Hamura without the TCM was equivalent to Non Jin hagoromo, who is the main source of sasukes power,
with the TCM he is well well above the likes of Toneri and Sasuke


Im going to ignore this bull shit


Amenotejikara is only good to an extent if sasukes reactions are faster than hamuras,
which they probably wont be, hell he wont be more reflexive than even hagoromo who has RSM


Another assumption with no proof



Based on what?
Toneri obliterates juubito based on what he has shown


Hagoromo still beats him


Yeah no he wasnt, and never will be




Hagoromo and Hamura are above any of the uchihas, and toneri is enough of a back up to help them clear juubito
they win mid diff

How Hamuro shtting on sasuke


Toneri on Jubito? You only put him above jubito because he can split the moon? But that was dodged by kcm naruto


And how is madara not equal or above hagoromo
When hago himself stated he was close to kaguya?

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

very interesting thread. Otsutsuki family wins

Hagoromo/Hamura > MAdara/Sasuke

Now Toneri and JJ Obito is interesting

I am pretty sure if The last is going to be made now Naruto would use RSM not KCM:erm:.

Naruto going only KCM doesnt make sense .

 

[Omar19992010]

very interesting thread. Otsutsuki family wins

Hagoromo/Hamura > MAdara/Sasuke

Now Toneri and JJ Obito is interesting

I am pretty sure if The last is going to be made now Naruto would use RSM not KCM:erm:.

Naruto going only KCM doesnt make sense .

It was BSM Naruto with Full Kurama powered up by Six Paths Chakra so it's way stronger than it was in the War-Arc.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

It was BSM Naruto with Full Kurama powered up by Six Paths Chakra so it's way stronger than it was in the War-Arc.

so it Last Naruto was stronger than RSM NAruto. If so then all makes sense .

 

[Omar19992010]

so it Last Naruto was stronger than RSM NAruto. If so then all makes sense .

RSM Naruto is still very much to BSM. Even though it's a boosted form of BSM it's still BSM and it doesn't hold a candle to RSM.

 

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Conditions
Rinne-Sharingan Madara Uchiha, Rinnegan Sasuke Uchiha (with Bijuu) and Juubi Jin Obito Uchiha take on Non-Jin Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki, Tenseigan Hamura Ōtsutsuki and Toneri Ōtsutsuki. Hypothetical Feats can be used for Rinne-Sharingan Madara, Hagoromo and you can scale Hamura off what Toneri did.

Location
Madara vs Naruto and Sasuke. Starting Distance is 250 Meters.

Intel
Full Intel for Both Teams

Restrictions
None

Mindset
Both Teams are looking to Spill Blood.​

Otsutsuki win this battle for Kaguya and all Otsutsuki.

But how many Kaguya inside Uchihas body there?