Uchiha Synonymous with Failure

Amenotejikara

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For the record Madara actually did succeed:

He was revived. Check
He became the Juubi's Jin. Check
Infinite Tsukyuomi? Check
Everyone locked in a dream of their own making? Check

What happened afterward was circumstantial and the consequences of his "success"

Also for every tyrant that has fallen good leaders and their kingdoms/empires have fallen as well. It isn't just "bad guys" who fail, the good guys do too. Nothing last forever.




Ok enough with the realist argument. I see this a lot from people trying to defend Sasuke/Obito/Madara's actions. Being a realist doesn't give you a liscense to be an utter **** and ruin the lives of everyone else because the world isn't fair.

Others have lived in the same world, subjected to the same hardships and traumas but they don't go f**king over the rest of humanity because they were dealt a cruel hand by the "real" world. Being a realist doesn't excuse the death and destruction they caused. And right and wrong is subjective.

Don't be mad at Naruto Hashirama and everyone else because they don't share the Uchiha's "realist" view of the world.

But they do and they're called the kages. lol
 

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This thread utilizes such a superficial view rather than a holistic analysis over the manga that I'm disinclined to being in agreement here.
Literally. I miss the psychology thread, at least people considered different perspectives.
Exactly, and if sasuke wasnt an indra incarnate his scheme wouldve worked flawlessly.
Someone gets it.
 

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without him only Sasuke would remain fodder cuz naruto didn't get any power from Itachi

Naruto got stronger because he was chasing after Sasuke who was chasing after Itachi then gaining revenge for Itachi
 

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From Indra to Sasuke they all became the toys of Kaguya and Black Zetzu, now that is quit a feast to accomplish. The Uchiha became the Personal Court Jester of Kaguya entertaining Her over the centuries.
 
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