uchiha /senju

[Darksharinnegan]

The senju are not better than the uchiha

They simply had the advantage of the sages body which makes them more durable

The uchiha however require time to hone their skills and need pain of loss to unlock the best abilities

Clearly in a 1v1 with no knowledge of each other an ms user would win

The reason the senju won the war is only because madsra and izuna couldn't simply use ms techsbecausee they backfire had there been a tournament 1 vs 1 the uchiha would've won

 

[Touken]

Their MS techs would backfire?

wat

Anyway, Senju >> Uchiha. Manga proves this. Feats prove this.

 

[Xāvî1]

It is said only the senjus could take on the uchihas, Their MS techs would backfire? what is the meaning of this?

 

[Bronze]

by hype senju > uchiha

by feats uchiha > senju.

obito
madara
sasuke
itachi
shisui

hashirama
tobirama
tsunade

please uchiha > senju by feats.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Senju are stronger, Uchiha are cooler.

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

I agree with this thread. The Uchihas look definitely stronger than the senjus

 

[Xicer]

Hashirama defeated Madara. Tobirama killed Izuna. 'nough said.

 

[Bronze]

Hashirama defeated EMS Madara. Tobirama killed Izuna The Featless Character. 'nough said.

fixed your post *_*.

 

[omarsen]

Senju > Uchiha

 

[Penguin]

Senju > Uchiha.

Obito is half Senju, so he does not count as an Uchiha. Literally half of his body is Senju DNA.

Hashirama and Tobirama > Madara Itachi Izuna and Sasuke.

Rinnegan Madara is non existant without Senju help. Madara needs the Kyuubi to keep up with Hashirama.

 

[Avinash012]

The senju are not better than the uchiha

They simply had the advantage of the sages body which makes them more durable

The uchiha however require time to hone their skills and need pain of loss to unlock the best abilities

Clearly in a 1v1 with no knowledge of each other an ms user would win

The reason the senju won the war is only because madsra and izuna couldn't simply use ms techsbecausee they backfire had there been a tournament 1 vs 1 the uchiha would've won

Showme atleast one scan where an Uchiha with MS had won against Either Hashirama or Tobirama........./ Thread

 

[sasuke base]

uchiha are the strongest overall or why would all the senju be dead it seem the uchiha are running the manga right know. I don't think most of the senju were as strong as tsunade and she was fodderized by madara along with the other kage. senju were stronger than the uchiha but the uchiha were more skill and better overall

madara=hashirama
izuna=tobirama
itachi
obito
sasuke
shisui
fugaku
kagami

the manga explained this already the uchiha get stronger over time with the more they lose things they love

madara was jumped number of times because his comrades could not fight against the strongest senju after his brother died it was hashirama and tobirama vs madara a battle is decide on the strongest if madara was able to beat hashirama the the uchiha would have won every battle and because his brother died the uchiha lost its second strongest fighter who was on madara level

uchiha>senju

 

[Penguin]

Hashirama >>>>>>> EMS Madara
Tobirama >>> MS Izuna

 

[Legacy of Hatred]

I'm not one to prove things using character's claims but...Hashirama said Itachi>Him. Regardless lets look at the scoreboard.

Those on the Senju side will include Hashi and Tobi and all known descendants of Hashi and Mito Uzumaki. Those on Uchihas side will include well...Uchihas.

Hashirama beat Madara before the village was founded and at the final valley. That's 2, Tobirama took out Izuna. That's 3. Madara beat...well left Tsunade on the brink of death so that's 1. Sasuke beat Naruto at the final valley and at Orochimaru's hideout so that's 3. They also tied at the Team 7 reunion where he beat Danzo. So we'll say that's one for each.

Total all that up, you get Senju-4, Uchiha-4. So Uchiha=Senju until Naruto and Sasuke settle otherwise, or Hashirama and Madara since they're still around.

Agree to disagree my niggas. That's just how I'm rollin.

 

[Avinash012]

The senju are not better than the uchiha

They simply had the advantage of the sages body which makes them more durable

The uchiha however require time to hone their skills and need pain of loss to unlock the best abilities

Clearly in a 1v1 with no knowledge of each other an ms user would win

The reason the senju won the war is only because madsra and izuna couldn't simply use ms techsbecausee they backfire had there been a tournament 1 vs 1 the uchiha would've won

Uchiha are the one's that wil get pwrs without any effort...
Even if ur a fodder u'll become one of the strongest after getng MS ,look at Obito ,he is a cry baby and practically half dead until rin's death and he suddenly able to solo all of enmy's after getng MS .............

Senju are true elites and they didn't get any pwrup on a whim without any effort like Uchiha they'll bcome stronge with thire hard work and talent......

It is already proved in the case of Tobirama,Hashirama and Madara...........

Uchiha's can't stand a chance against Senju woth thire ultimate pwr .......
Highest possible pwrup for an individual Uchiha is MS and MS is already out matched by both Tobirama and Hashirama..

I'll use Madara as example since he is the strongest

Hashirama>MS Madara

Madara got a pwrup by transplantng Izuna's eye's to match Hashirama(No individual Uchiha can achive it on his own )

and Still
Hashirama>EMS Madara

Madara used Kyubi to match upto Hashirama

even with Kyubi

Hashirama>Madara(EMS+Kyubi)


Senju boundaries are far beyond Uchiha's limit............

Senju>>>Uchiha

 

[Avinash012]

I'm not one to prove things using character's claims but...Hashirama said Itachi>Him. Regardless lets look at the scoreboard.

Those on the Senju side will include Hashi and Tobi and all known descendants of Hashi and Mito Uzumaki. Those on Uchihas side will include well...Uchihas.

Hashirama beat Madara before the village was founded and at the final valley. That's 2, Tobirama took out Izuna. That's 3. Madara beat...well left Tsunade on the brink of death so that's 1. Sasuke beat Naruto at the final valley and at Orochimaru's hideout so that's 3. They also tied at the Team 7 reunion where he beat Danzo. So we'll say that's one for each.

Total all that up, you get Senju-4, Uchiha-4. So Uchiha=Senju until Naruto and Sasuke settle otherwise, or Hashirama and Madara since they're still around.

Agree to disagree my niggas. That's just how I'm rollin.

Hashirama beat Madara .....more than one time and Madara beat Tsunade by usng the pwr he gained from Hashirama and Sasuke is able to took Naruto bcoz of Oro's CM............

Naruto let Sasuke go bcoz he still want to save Sasuke......Bcoz he knw the truth abt Itachi and he completly understand Sasuke's feelngs and there is noway in hell for Sasuke to beat SM Naruto in that condition..........

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Senju literally stomp on Uchiha.

 

[Penguin]

Hashirama said that Itachi was a better shinobi. Shinobi in Hashirama's words are ninja who sacrifice for the village. That is not strength.

 

[Zorø]

Uchiha>>>>>>Senju even Tobirama said it

 

[Darksharinnegan]

All uchihas don't have sharingan

All senju have chakra and stamina

Their war took place before the uchiha tablet was written

And when i say back fire i mean the recoil from using techs like amaterasu and tsyukoymi