[Discussion] Uchiha + Senju DNA needed for Izanagi ?

[sephirothh]

Itachi before using Izanami, explained that Izanami was created to stop the Uchiha spamming Izanagi (and destroying their eyes).

But Tobi clearly mentionned during the Konan fight , that Izanagi can only be used with both DNA (Senju + Uchiha), this is also confirmed by Danzo.

How come, that the fodders Uchiha could use Izanagi so much then ? I dont think they had access to Senju DNA.

Plot no jutsu ?

 

[Uchiha Aizen]

Beats me U_U

 

[Umari Senju]

Itachi before using Izanami, explained that Izanami was created to stop the Uchiha spamming Izanagi (and destroying their eyes).

But Tobi clearly mentionned during the Konan fight , that Izanagi can only be used with both DNA (Senju + Uchiha), this is also confirmed by Danzo.

How come, that the fodders Uchiha could use Izanagi so much then ? I dont think they had access to Senju DNA.

Plot no jutsu ?

I was thinking this too. Fortunately they stint in the anime where they explained how the 2 work never took place in the manga so I guess we can say that little flash back is non cannon? But yeah if Izanagi requires senju and uchiha DNA and Iganami is Izanagi's counter....Wouldn't Iganami require Senju DNA as well?

Good point....

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Izanami was a PNJ to defeat Kabuto U_U

 

[johnny scars]

the uchiha collected hashiramas hair after hahirama had a hair cut

 

[OnPoint]

It wouldn't be far-fetched to suggest that those fodder Uchiha were cultivating (and by extension, utilizing) Senju DNA, especially if you consider what Madara has said [

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[sephirothh]

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[3MESSIAH]

izanagi can be activated without SENJU DNA but it only lasts for a second.however with SENJU DNA it lasts longer

 

[Boston Rob]

What? Izanagi is Uchihas jutsu you moran....... What kind of nonsense is this...........

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

If your just a straight uchiha I'm pretty sure you can use it without senju DNA. It's a forbidden technique there clan used. I'm assuming it was only like that for a non uchiha like Danzou. Cuz he couldn't control that many sharingans without hashi DNA.

 

[Prestonyoko]

Back then Fodder Uchiha stole Fodder Senju's DNA for their own use.

This is the best assumption i can make.

 

[Prime Rib]

Itachi before using Izanami, explained that Izanami was created to stop the Uchiha spamming Izanagi (and destroying their eyes).

But Tobi clearly mentionned during the Konan fight , that Izanagi can only be used with both DNA (Senju + Uchiha), this is also confirmed by Danzo.

How come, that the fodders Uchiha could use Izanagi so much then ? I dont think they had access to Senju DNA.

Plot no jutsu ?

i seriously do not get why there are so many ignorant people like you on narutobase?....

you do not need senju dna to perform izanagi or inzanami. senju dna or hashirama cells can make izanagi perfect as izanagi is inperfect without the senju dna. so yeah you dont need senju duna to perform

 

[shelke]

Izanagi in its complete form is - Creation of ALL Things, used by the Sage to create many things amongst Bijuus. That requires both Uchiha and Senju DNA as Obito explained. The one used by the Uchiha clan, whose counter on in-check Technique is Izanami, is a water-downed version of the original, as it alters personal reality at the loss of light. It doesn't give the liberty of altering or creating reality like the original.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

im 100% sure you dont need hashi dna ... also dont use the term senju Dna because its not much hashi DNA is different only dude with woodstyle. ok izinagi and izinami are UCHIHA forbidden techs. Danzo is not a uchiha so he needed HASHI DNA to be able to control all those eyes ... and i never believed obito hes been a lair since we knew him as tobi he had his own agenda so why tell the truth especially to conan.

 

[VongolaX]

Uchiha's were a lot closer in blood back then to the senju

Note: the older sons blood younger brother is the senju

It requires senju and uchiha powers to use the full power of inzangi (Danzo was incomplete)

 

[sephirothh]

Well you people are so smart, but your arguments (a low version of Izanagi, unperfect) are not valid because this was NEVER stated in the manga. I consider valid arguments, that you can read in the manga.

The fact is on this page :

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That it is clearly mentionned that both DNA's Senju + Uchiha are needed for the technique, so shut up smartass

 

[Mr Hiru]

Itachi before using Izanami, explained that Izanami was created to stop the Uchiha spamming Izanagi (and destroying their eyes).

But Tobi clearly mentionned during the Konan fight , that Izanagi can only be used with both DNA (Senju + Uchiha), this is also confirmed by Danzo.

How come, that the fodders Uchiha could use Izanagi so much then ? I dont think they had access to Senju DNA.

Plot no jutsu ?

Izanagi is a variation of the jutsu of Creation, which needed both Yin and Yang powers to create things.

But, you must remember every living thing has a Yin (a mind) and a yang (a body). So, the reason of why the fodder Uchiha could use Izanagi, it is because they had at least a little yang part that could be sacrificed to execute the legendary technique, and this yang was the life in the Sharingan they sacrifice.

Danzou in the other hand could use it without their sharingan losing life because he had the Senju DNA.

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The background that explains the origin of this jutsu:

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Summing it up: The Senju DNA is used only to reduce the drawback of the technique. That's all.

 

[FearxDeath]

Itachi before using Izanami, explained that Izanami was created to stop the Uchiha spamming Izanagi (and destroying their eyes).

But Tobi clearly mentionned during the Konan fight , that Izanagi can only be used with both DNA (Senju + Uchiha), this is also confirmed by Danzo.

How come, that the fodders Uchiha could use Izanagi so much then ? I dont think they had access to Senju DNA.

Plot no jutsu ?

Perhaps Senju is needed to take it to its full limits, like he said "Danzo was boasting an incomplete form of the Jutsu"

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Izanagi can be used without Senju DNA, however Senju DNA is used to reach its full potential and increase its time duration.

here is a quote from Narutopedia "To make full use of Izanagi, users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju, who are also descended from the Sage

Anyway this is not an opinion, its a fact.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Izanagi can be used without Senju DNA, however Senju DNA is used to reach its full potential and increase its time duration.

here is a quote from Narutopedia "To make full use of Izanagi, users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju, who are also descended from the Sage

Anyway this is not an opinion, its a fact.

This one is right.

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Izanagi in its incomplete form can be casted without using Senju powers, just like Itachi's Izanami.