Uchiha revival redone.

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Karin or Ino makes for a good, heck better wife. But Sakura needs to be with Sasuke. It is just how things should happen.
She never gave up on Sasuke and that's an SS stuff, I guess.
If it means anything, I think Japanese writing has a thing for females's undying affection for males. You guys should read/watch Itazura na Kiss. It somehow will remind you of Sakura.

Remember when Sasuke said that everyone turned on him except Naruto? He meant that Sakura turned on him as well. She gave up on him when she tried to kill him twice on Samurai Bridge.
 

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Remember when Sasuke said that everyone turned on him except Naruto? He meant that Sakura turned on him as well. She gave up on him when she tried to kill him twice on Samurai Bridge.

She did try to kill him. And for whatever sentiments Sakura had during that time, whether Sasuke knows them or not, Sakura never stopped thinking about him. It is an extremely grey area and SS is just mentally draining. As I said, I think Japanese ought to have a thing for that genre of love. Naruto ain't a romance manga so there is no point in heavily investing into analyzing how SS fails in that department, developmentally.
 

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Sasuke is incapable of romantic love while Sakura is obsessed with him enough to put up with his shit. They're perfect for each other.

Plus you're retarded if you wanna pair Sasuke with the main character's mom.

Romantic love isn't required for clan revivals.
 

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Romantic love isn't required for clan revivals.

Definitely true, but I think he'd grow soft along the way with his wife and kids. I think Sakura is a turn off to him and the way she's rubbed off on his daughter repulses him as well. I think he would have stuck around if he had a son.
 

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Definitely true, but I think he'd grow soft along the way with his wife and kids. I think Sakura is a turn off to him and the way she's rubbed off on his daughter repulses him as well. I think he would have stuck around if he had a son.

I highly doubt it. Kids I agree with. Wife? Nah. Sakura does seem like a turn off.
 

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I highly doubt it. Kids I agree with. Wife? Nah. Sakura does seem like a turn off.

I have to agree, he'd definitely have a soft spot for the kid. He might be a little colder to his wife than his father was to his mother. It's crazy that Mikoto put up with Fugaku being so emotionless. I've had girls freak out about me not liking PDA and other serious displays of affection in private as well. lol

It's not a surprise Sakura puts up with Sasuke's tendencies. I feel like he's just with her because he feels bad about what he did to her and how his actions affected her.
 

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I have to agree, he'd definitely have a soft spot for the kid. He might be a little colder to his wife than his father was to his mother. It's crazy that Mikoto put up with Fugaku being so emotionless. I've had girls freak out about me not liking PDA and other serious displays of affection in private as well. lol

It's not a surprise Sakura puts up with Sasuke's tendencies. I feel like he's just with her because he feels bad about what he did to her and how his actions affected her.

I believe you are looking at this from a wrong angle: marriage is not about love; it's about compromises. People today have a wrong idealistic view of marriage, and no wonder they don't work. Fukagu and Mikoto were a part of a traditional marriage. I saw nothing out of the ordinary there.

I believe he married her for an heir only. All evidence points to that fact.
 

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I believe you are looking at this from a wrong angle: marriage is not about love; it's about compromises. People today have a wrong idealistic view of marriage, and no wonder they don't work. Fukagu and Mikoto were a part of a traditional marriage. I saw nothing out of the ordinary there.

I believe he married her for an heir only. All evidence points to that fact.

What angle would you look at marriage from, because we could discuss this in that other forum for news and serious discussions but I'm banned from it and I don't know how to recover my position from. I do believe marriage is a compromise and an ultimate sacrifice from both parties but even if people were to look at it that way, they still need some kind of glue to keep them together, and love is seen as that glue.

Children aren't that glue in a marriage anymore since people have started a custody war in the past two decades, believing that the child is theirs to own and not the other parent's.
 

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What angle would you look at marriage from, because we could discuss this in that other forum for news and serious discussions but I'm banned from it and I don't know how to recover my position from. I do believe marriage is a compromise and an ultimate sacrifice from both parties but even if people were to look at it that way, they still need some kind of glue to keep them together, and love is seen as that glue.

Children aren't that glue in a marriage anymore since people have started a custody war in the past two decades, believing that the child is theirs to own and not the other parent's.

I guess I would have to disagree, because in my view that glue is respect and that's it.

Heirs can be created. It's not really difficult process any more because of good health care, which is why no one places such value on it.
 

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I guess I would have to disagree, because in my view that glue is respect and that's it.

Heirs can be created. It's not really difficult process any more because of good health care, which is why no one places such value on it.

Well in your view you might see it as realm of respect, but how many people would actually see it from your point of view and compromise? Not to be sexist, but women aren't necessarily notorious for being understanding of something that isn't emotional, which puts you in a position of unequal yoke between you and your partner.
 

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Well in your view you might see it as the realm of respect, but how many people would actually see it from your point of view and compromise? Not to be sexist, but women aren't necessarily notorious for being understanding of something that isn't emotional, which puts you in a position of unequal yoke between you and your partner.

I believe realising 'boundaries' is the key to respect. These can be related to personal space, choices, likes and dislikes etc. Also, I don't disagree with your view on women, but I have seen some pretty emotional men as well. People really should go for those whom they are compatible with.
 

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I believe realising 'boundaries' is the key to respect. These can be related to personal space, choices, likes and dislikes etc. Also, I don't disagree with your view on women, but I have seen some pretty emotional men as well. People really should go for those whom they are compatible with.

How would one go about doing that? Most people don't really have that view of marriage, their view is that everything is put on the table for both partners to be privy to. How would you find someone compatible?
 

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How would one go about doing that? Most people don't really have that view of marriage, their view is that everything is put on the table for both partners to be privy to. How would you find someone compatible?

I think a few interactions are enough to give someone a general idea. I also believe that both (the so-called) love and arranged marriages have their pros and cons. The latter has a huge pro of no expetectations attached to the package.
 

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I think a few interactions are enough to give someone a general idea. I also believe that both (the so-called) love and arranged marriages have their pros and cons. The latter has a huge pro of no expetectations attached to the package.

Most people won't be compatible with you, it'd be an eternal, but worthy search. Thank God for the internet though, but ladies do tend to lie about what they want in a relationship, and pretend that they like the same things as you so you might want to watch your step.

Arranged marriages don't have expectations and you are living with another person while learning more about them which can be exciting, but then you don't know about the cons of that person specifically and how heavily they will affect the relationship.
 

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Most people won't be compatible with you, it'd be an eternal, but worthy search. Thank God for the internet though, but ladies do tend to lie about what they want in a relationship, and pretend that they like the same things as you so you might want to watch your step.

Arranged marriages don't have expectations and you are living with another person while learning more about them which can be exciting, but then you don't know about the cons of that person specifically and how heavily they will affect the relationship.

I don't believe in the idea of complete compatibility. That rubbish doesn't exist, and 'true love' and 'soul mates' are only familial relations (siblings, parents, and children) on a spiritual level. The former can be projected onto ideology as well. But these two for a lover? Haha, nah. It's a media perpetuated myth. So, my point was about a 'mutual understanding' if anything else.

Of course, it has cons.
 

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I don't believe in the idea of complete compatibility. That rubbish doesn't exist, and 'true love' and 'soul mates' are only familial relations (siblings, parents, and children) on a spiritual level. The former can be projected onto ideology as well. But these two for a lover? Haha, nah. It's a media perpetuated myth. So, my point was about a 'mutual understanding' if anything else.

Of course, it has cons.

Lol fully agree with this. Anyway sasuke isn't the kind of guy who should get married. Itachi ****ed him quite badly I don't think he's capable of loving a women like that. Should have left him alone. Genetically speaking Karin would be be best I think
 

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Though I hate the awful abusive relationship, Sasuke picking Sakura as family shows an off-screen end to his character arc. He chose the girl from no specific or genetic clan that he cared for over someone like say, Karin- who would've created a genetically strategic Uchiha heir.

He chose with his heart boyyy because current Sasuke is an actual developed adult and human being.
 

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I don't believe in the idea of complete compatibility. That rubbish doesn't exist, and 'true love' and 'soul mates' are only familial relations (siblings, parents, and children) on a spiritual level. The former can be projected onto ideology as well. But these two for a lover? Haha, nah. It's a media perpetuated myth. So, my point was about a 'mutual understanding' if anything else.

Of course, it has cons.

How would you recommend two people in a marriage to keep that relationship alive? Look past superficial things like attraction and look toward things like the building of the family? Personally I see it that way, love doesn't always have to save it, you can always do something else as a team.

Also, it is true that "true love" only exists between family.
 

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How would you recommend two people in a marriage to keep that relationship alive? Look past superficial things like attraction and look toward things like the building of the family? Personally I see it that way, love doesn't always have to save it, you can always do something else as a team.

Also, it is true that "true love" only exists between family.

Economic and social security, children, and common interests. That is all that is required for a marriage to work.
 
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