Uchiha Massacre Plot Confusion?

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I'm writing this post on my IPhone so bare with me.

So after re-reading manga, and watching anime, I've come to the conclusion that the Uchiha Clan was Fodder.

Now that I've gotten your attention, I'll explain.

1. The Entire clan was Low diffed by 1 Uchiha!, here's were the plot confusion comes in. If the entire clan has the sharingan then How did that happen? I know Itachi was a beast, but cmon! And No he did not have help from "Madara" or "tobi".

So it's safe to say, that After Madara died, in this new Generation, Only Obito,Shisui, Itachi, and Sasuke were not Fodder.

Obito= Has kamui was is pretty awesome, he is never shown to have exaustion from using his MS tech too much, he doesn't have EMS and his eye never bleeds. Plothole.

Shisui= Has probably the most OP eye technique in the NV but allowed Danzo and a group of anbu fodders to steal his eye.

Itachi= Overused the Hell out of his MS and basically was near death when fighting sasuke.

Sasuke= Didn't awaken Rinnegan like Madara did, Even with 8 1/2 Bijuus and PS and lost to Naruto. I think that Feat is better than Hashi beating Madara.

This is not an Uchiha Hate thread As Itachi and sasuke are favs, bit they are destined to Lose. Never have won anything significant, and 95% of their clan was fodder yet they have Sharigan.
 

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Obito helped Itachi slaughter them, they were not fodders.

Also, Itachi alone is one of the most skilled shinobi ever, so why you fret?
 

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The Uchiha Clan was taken down by both Itachi who was consider a genius and Obito who was taught by Madara himself while also possessing Mangekyou Sharingan. Also, the Uchiha Clan was over-hyped and overrated. Danzou himself was confident he could wipe them out with his and Hurizen's ANBU forces.
 

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Yes the Uchiha Clan was fodder not only because of those reasons but because there were also manipulated by BZ into that Curse of Hatred. Mainly it was spamming the eye techniques that blinded the Uchiha. They have always needed extra power ups to beat the Senju like Madara needed Hashi's cells to awaken the Rinnegan and Sasuke needed all of the power ups he could get but still couldn't beat Naruto. Shisui's death was the most embarrassing because he got his eye stole away from him like a fodder. Obito got nerfed hard as a Juubi Jin. Itachi died from a disease was pretty bad as well because had he fought Sasuke at full force he would have beaten Hebi Sasuke. The Uchiha Clan were destined to lose ever since Hago passed on his will to Ashura and his descendants and the BZ rewriting the Stone Tablet to fool them made it worse. In short the Uchiha Clan is fodder. Like they had the strongest people but had to be nerfed hard as hell.

Also they were portrayed to be inferior to the Senju since Day 1.
 

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1. The Entire clan was Low diffed by 1 Uchiha!, here's were the plot confusion comes in. If the entire clan has the sharingan then How did that happen? I know Itachi was a beast, but cmon! And No he did not have help from "Madara" or "tobi".

Itachi= Overused the Hell out of his MS.
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Itachi's father did not fight back and most of the Uchiha's did not see it coming... He also had help from obito... I am pretty sure most of the uchiha were attacked when their sharingan were off aswell
 

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Yea the uchiha are overrated imo besides the 5 uchiha u mentioned and izuna but u can also say that about the senju how did they get killed off also the uzumaki also every other clan is fodder only a couple stand out in each clan
 

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i dislike the Uchiha but as much as it pains me to say the clan as a whole were not fodder. You act like Itachi destroyed the clan alone on just a regular Sharingan.

1). You are wrong, he was not alone. Obito helped him
2.) 2 MS users VS a clan mostly of Uchiha who have not awakened the Sharingan and a handfull that only have 1-3 tomoe Sharingan
3) Itachi was a prodigy
4) Obito was a special Uchiha due to his Kamui and being mentored by Madara himself.
5) they were killed in the cover of night.

The fact that the Senju were able to best them doesn't make them fodder. The Senju didn't actually beat the Uchiha as many keep stating. They grew tired of fighting and accepted peace. That isn't weakness

A true test of a warrior is knowing when to put down your sword. That is what the Uchiha did.

Sorry but they aren't weak or fodder. They just got done wrong and got a little emo over it is all :flakez:
 

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I have to admit, I was confused about how Obito overuses his Kamui but it didnt affect him. That is indeed a plothole.
 

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Yea the uchiha are overrated imo besides the 5 uchiha u mentioned and izuna but u can also say that about the senju how did they get killed off also the uzumaki also every other clan is fodder only a couple stand out in each clan

This is so true right here. People are basing the strength of entire clans off of the exceptional few.



I have to admit, I was confused about how Obito overuses his Kamui but it didnt affect him. That is indeed a plothole.

Senju DNA and a whole host of eyes. Obtio has been using plug n play with his eyeballs off panel for sometime now. His lost eyes numerous times.
 

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You lot are uber dumb 1. Obito had senju DNa so the body could cope with the extra stress of over using the eye
2. The uchiha are not fodder.they were far from it they got wiped out because non of them would have thought it would be itachi that would kill them to plus itachi is God .
 

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Itachi was the only one alive with MS at the time.. he prolly just negged everyone with tsukuyomi and slashed a few people..
honestly, I imagine Itachi walking through his village and *****s falling to the ground on some CoQ shit from OP

but anyway,
it was night time, he had obito's help, and no one would've expected him to massacre them (par his parents of course)
 

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This is so true right here. People are basing the strength of entire clans off of the exceptional few.





Senju DNA and a whole host of eyes. Obtio has been using plug n play with his eyeballs off panel for sometime now. His lost eyes numerous times.

This makes sense because in the Gaiden it was shown that Shin had S/T or Kamui and assuming they took it from Obito's lab its safe to say all of those eyes that were in Obito's lab had Kamui. The only thing I think must have happened is before going to the War, he must have switched into his original eye but that was quite the dumb move on Obito's part. He should have known Kakashi would have the same eye as him but then that's another way for Plot to take over and defeat the villain lmao. Obito having the Senju DNA helped him the most because it built up his stamina and endurance to spam that Kamui and not get affected compared to Kakashi who looked like he was going to die after using it twice even.
 

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The entire clan was murdered by two kids.

In one night.

With little to no sign of resistance.
 

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The entire clan was murdered by two kids.

In one night.

With little to no sign of resistance.

That speaks volumes about the murderers not the clan. Yeah they were that good.

Same could be said for the Senju and Uzumaki clan. We didn't even get to see what happened to them. They were one uped off panel.
 

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You guys saying He has Obito's help. I can't pull the scan up, But it's when he's fighting Nagato with Naruto and bee. He says, "So Madara knew this whole time." I'm assuming he was taking about Obito.

Could someone post the scan where Itachi admits getting help from Obito? I think I've seen it before I'm just not sure. And based off what I've just read Itachi says other wise.
 

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Obito did actually help however technically its true.. how can ONE person destroy so many with the Sharingan. I put it down to the fact that Itachis Tsukuyomi combined with Tobi/Obitos Kamui were too powerful a combination for anyone (well thinking about it - they actually would be).. or simply... bad writing on Kishis part.

However... that said.. it doesnt say much about the Senju or Uzumakis either. They were wiped our before the Uchiha were. Again its all writing. The only ancient Clan still around were the Hyuuga... but they were just in the background with no real input to the story in general and hardly enough air time.

In my opinion its all down to the writing at the time. However... at the time we all also knew Kishi was beginning to slow down... hence Kaguya and ither asspulls.

Is what it is...
 
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I wouldn't say fodda, They did manage to wipe out the Senju down to two while they had an entire clan.
 

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You lot are uber dumb 1. Obito had senju DNa so the body could cope with the extra stress of over using the eye
2. The uchiha are not fodder.they were far from it they got wiped out because non of them would have thought it would be itachi that would kill them to plus itachi is God .

So if Obito's senju DNA played such a big part in his eyes, why did he never Unlock the rinnegan? Danzo had Senju DNA but he could only use Shisui's tech like once a blue moon. Senju DNA does not allow u to spam the hell out of Kamui and never ever show exhaustion.
 
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