Uchiha massacre defenders.

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Too much anime or too much weed

Its honesty to much rick and morty its a huge refresher to reality. You should try it sometime

Btw the new eps, just released on Utube
 
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Its honesty to much rick and morty its a huge refresher to reality. You should try it sometime

Btw the new eps, just released on Utube

>Philosophy
>Rick and morty

Honestly go read or listen to real philosophers, not nihilism hedonistic promoting shows that degrade what it means to be human.
 

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Notice the people here who say "There's no such thing as justified or unjustified killing in the this feudal system" most of them shit on Sasuke for wanting to do the same to Konoha.:lol

Then again, hypocrisy is a common trait among Sasuke haters so I'm not surprised.:bdpf:
 

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Notice the people here who say "There's no such thing as justified or unjustified killing in the this feudal system" most of them shit on Sasuke for wanting to do the same to Konoha.:lol

Then again, hypocrisy is a common trait among Sasuke haters so I'm not surprised.:bdpf:

Stop sending subs and name drop.

No balls lol.
 

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Notice the people here who say "There's no such thing as justified or unjustified killing in the this feudal system" most of them shit on Sasuke for wanting to do the same to Konoha.:lol

No one said Sasuke had no justification- it was just relatively directionless and myopic justification, driven by negative feeling of revenge, besides leading opposite to what Itachi tried to give him for better. Two situations aren't comparable as in Sasuke wasn't removing any imminent threat when making that decision. He was reacting and wasn't able to see through anything. He had no vision to "what happens next" beyond that point influenced by partial story designed to influence him emotionally. As a matter of fact he was justifying Danzou's argument of total annihilation that leaving any of them would be dangerous.

Longer memories of historical conflicts and wish to continue them to settle scores or follow the same path had resulted in Middle east conflict that's not going to resolve any time soon. So people who compare this situation with RL as well may take note.
 
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Yeah I'm surprised how so many people actually feel they had no other options but to kill them off
 

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I'm not, I just know who you're talking about.
Don't be afraid to name drop and quote.XD


You just don't want smoke.

You are making yourself more than you actually are, you are not the only Sasuke hater I've soloed before.

And lol "Smoke" I hope you know this is an internet forum.:lol
 

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I said it before,if the uchiha hadn't been wiped out,this would have spelt doom for konoha,and other nation would have capitalized on it,because seriously lets be frank here,no clan would have supported the uchiha,making it them versus the whole village.and the casualities would have wiped out a whole hidden village..
The uchiha 's are a menace to any society they are situated in,an uchiha started the 4th war,started the incessant killings of bloodline users,killed the main characters family,and where about bring ruin to a village..better to pull out the weed than allow the plants suffer,atleast we dont see naruto going on a killing spree because his own clan where murdered in cold blood.
 

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Yeah I'm surprised how so many people actually feel they had no other options but to kill them off

There were options. Surrender under threat or wait and face civil war or or talk. Talk failed. Other two were rejected. Uchiha would have known the risk.

The "civilian casualties" still occur in 21st century. Ask the Syrians/Afghans etc. Parties just blame each other on who is responsible for gas.

You are making yourself more than you actually are, you are not the only Sasuke hater I've soloed before.
Megax Rocker said:
hypocrisy is a common trait among Sasuke haters

# The " hater " word suits only for those who go out of their way to bash something; persistently ignore any redeeming qualities of character; are unable to move on & restarting same old arguments to despise that character once again or belittle those who disagree with them.

# There is nothing like "solo" either especially when you are making groups to defend each other or get the confirmation bias.

# No one wins such internet arguments. Even the arguments based on facts get derailed from who was right into who was the most persistent often using rhetorical arguments . And if you were the most persistent one! Yay!

# Many people discuss topics and subjects on the internet to share their view or learn others'- not to show they are superior in arguing. The ones who do the latter, get to claim to ‘win’ a lot of arguments because the first kind of people realize the futility of the arguing with a brick wall and find something better to do instead of playing chess with the pigeon- it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
 
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It's a manga dude, why don't you just ask if we'd react the same as them if we got hit by a spiraling ball of energy, or saw a literal monster of energy, what in the actual f ck? Is it this dead on nds?
 

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What Itachi did was the best for society
 

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That's the problem though, NB keeps using modern ideology comparisons in a fantasy anime about ninja's and war. It wouldn't be a acceotabke now but back then probably could have been normal.
 

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No one said Sasuke had no justification- it was just relatively directionless and myopic justification, driven by negative feeling of revenge, besides leading opposite to what Itachi tried to give him for better. Two situations aren't comparable as in Sasuke wasn't removing any imminent threat when making that decision. He was reacting and wasn't able to see through anything. He had no vision to "what happens next" beyond that point influenced by partial story designed to influence him emotionally. As a matter of fact he was justifying Danzou's argument of total annihilation that leaving any of them would be dangerous.

Longer memories of historical conflicts and wish to continue them to settle scores or follow the same path had resulted in Middle east conflict that's not going to resolve any time soon. So people who compare this situation with RL as well may take note.

Mass bloodshed is the same, there's a lot of innocent Uchiha members who were disposed of along with the rest which includes children and elderly, Sasuke was planning the same thing for Konoha.

I'm not agreeing with Sasuke's plan, what I'm not pleased with is seeing the same people who complained about the fact that Sasuke is going to kill the innocent in other threads, talk about "There's no such thing as justified and unjustified murder" when it comes to the Uchiha masscare in this one.

And the main reason for this hypocrisy is non other than hate towards Sasuke or Uchiha in general.
# The " hater " word suits only for those who go out of their way to bash something; persistently ignore any redeeming qualities of character; are unable to move on & restarting same old arguments to despise that character once again or belittle those who disagree with them.

Which fits exactly the ones I'm referring to, the same people who support the massacre "The only good thing Itachi did" is something common said by haters who at the same time, bash Sasuke for wanting to do the same to Konoha.

# There is nothing like "solo" either especially when you are making groups to defend each other or get the confirmation bias.

There's such thing as a solo, when you shut down ignorance with canon material, it happened all the time, it happens all the time, and it's going to keep happening.

And I don't recall myself working with a group, you have me confused with Naruto/Hyuuga fanatics.

# No one wins such internet arguments. Even the arguments based on facts get derailed from who was right into who was the most persistent often using rhetorical arguments . And if you were the most persistent one! Yay!

There is a clear winner when one shares undeniable facts but the opposesion has nothing to say but insult them, a good example is the Hyuuga fanboys claiming them to be stronger than the Uchiha despite the manga stating that the Senju and Uchiha are at the top.

I expected an argument, I received salt instead.

# Many people discuss topics and subjects on the internet to share their view or learn others'- not to show they are superior in arguing. The ones who do the latter, get to claim to ‘win’ a lot of arguments because the first kind of people realize the futility of the arguing with a brick wall and find something better to do instead of playing chess with the pigeon- it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

Which happens to me a lot, but unlike most of Naruto's fanboys whom I argue with the most, I'm reasonable and know the boundaries that cannot be crossed, such as ignoring the authors claims for the sake of their delusions, or taking things absolutely out of context.

I'm not trying to justify myself to anyone or claim that I'm not biased, but I'm proud of the one fact that I don't BS around about something I don't know about, whether you want to believe it or not, and what I'm saying is based on what I've seen throughout my years as a member and as a viewer on this forum.
 
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I expected an argument, I received salt instead.

Thread is about Uchiha massacre. You specifically quoted from my post and complained about not having similar sympathy with Sasuke's cause which you do and tried to take a jibe . Thus the salt you see was brought by you in form of an off topic rant.

Rest is already addressed and done with. I'm not interested in discussion nor it's the thread topic.
 
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Thread is about Uchiha massacre. You specifically quoted from my post and complained about not having similar sympathy with Sasuke's cause which you do and tried to take a jibe . Thus the salt you see was brought by you in form of an off topic rant.

Rest is already addressed and done with. I'm not interested in discussion nor it's the thread topic.
When I said "I expected and argument, I received salt instead" I was talking about my example with Hyuuga vs Uchiha thing, not you.

I wasn't going off topic with my original post, nor did I start this argument in the first place, but I will leave it at that.
 
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There was room for more negotiation imo, so the massacre could've been prevented. What Konoha's mistake was that they went on with the massacre before giving diplomacy a chance to resolve matters including addressing the reasons for the uchiha clan's discontent.
And even after that if the uchiha didn't give up their plans for a coup then the massacre would've been justified. Sure there was a loss of innocent lives, but after diplomacy's failure not taking action and letting the uchiha's carry on their plans would've caused even more loss of lives.
The only thing I see wrong with the massacre is that other options weren't fully explored before giving the massacre a go ahead. And for that Danzo and the other advisors should've been punished and executed and Hiruzen for not doing so.
 
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