Uchiha Madara vs Rikudō Sennin

[Shura]

The featless Sage wins.​

 

[Bronze]

It's simple biology. Elder Son mates with someone outside of the clan = weaker Uchiha. The process continues until the Uchiha start interbreeding, and at that point, they're all impure versions of the Elder Son. Same goes for the Younger Son.

Have you seen Blade 3?

I hope you realize that kind of biology does not apply for the Naruto world at all. In fact, it doesn't always work like that. If i am a muscular, does that mean my body system is weaker than my ancestor. Obviously not because i am stronger than him. Madara has strongest Uchiha DNA inherited from his ancestor(elder brother) and has Hashirama's cells(Younger brother). He is a full and the real sage. Until you bring me a proof that its not true, then you're only claiming baseless stuff.

Not really.

 

[Touken]

I hope you realize that kind of biology does not apply for the Naruto world at all. In fact, it doesn't always work like that. If i am a muscular, does that mean my body system is weaker than my ancestor. Obviously not because i am stronger than him. Madara has strongest Uchiha DNA inherited from his ancestor(elder brother) and has Hashirama's cells(Younger brother). He is a full and the real sage. Until you bring me a proof that its not true, then you're only claiming baseless stuff.

Muscles have nothing to do with DNA, and DNA is what I'm talking about. I don't have the time to explain this considering I have to be in a biology lesson soon, but I suggest you read up on DNA and the genes you inherit from your parents.

 

[Bronze]

Muscles have nothing to do with DNA, and DNA is what I'm talking about. I don't have the time to explain this considering I have to be in a biology lesson soon, but I suggest you read up on DNA and the genes you inherit from your parents.

That's where you're wrong at. DNA possess every information of the muscle along with the whole body such as height, hair color etc. Muscles needs protein, and DNA codes protein needed to build muscle. I am correct.

Well then, you need some serious concentration in your lesson then.

 

[Strict]

In the time Rikudo Sennin lived, even pre Juubi-Jin Madara with Uchiha and Senju powers, plus Rinnegan would be considered god like.

Rikudo developed a sealing Jutsu to free the world from the Juubi. So what, Madara did basically the same (sealing Juubi away). Then, Rikudo Sennin became something like a god.

I can't imagine how a non Jin Rikudo beats a perfect Jin of the Juubi who also achieved the Rinnegan. I see no limits for Madara. I mean he would be able to cast an infinite Genjutsu over the whole world. Creating a moon or destroy the world would be within his capabilities. He can also use Banbutsu Sozo. He created the Zetsu with that for example as he said.

 

[Touken]

That's where you're wrong at. DNA possess every information of the muscle along with the whole body such as height, hair color etc. Muscles needs protein, and DNA codes protein needed to build muscle. I am correct.

This is where I slowly back out from the thread...

 

[Bronze]

This is where I slowly back out from the thread...

And go back to your class and get your facts right. You don't know how DNA and body system works. Also, further proving yourself idiotic by keeping the same link in your sig which shows how much of denial and fanboy you are.

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OT: Madara before becoming a Jinch was equal to the Sage if not stronger due to his knoweldge and SM. Being a Jinchuuriki, makes him 100x stronger than pre Juubi Sage.

 

[Curse Mark]

Lol **** u so hype about

 

[miromiro]

Actually, we know for a fact he didn't have S/t jutsu, Shadow clones, Edo tensei, izanagi, izanami or shit load of current techniques which were recently developed.

He did have Creation of All Things which is above everything you listed. He had Omnyodon which negates any kind of ninjutsu.

 

[Bronze]

He did have Creation of All Things which is above everything you listed. He had Omnyodon which negates any kind of ninjutsu.

We have no idea the limits of Sozo Banbatsu and not to mention we don't know what he can create using it. Omnyodon is a Jutsu he gained by becoming a Jinchuuriki. Sozo Banbatsu could also be as well.

 

[miromiro]

We have no idea the limits of Sozo Banbatsu and not to mention we don't know what he can create using it. Omnyodon is a Jutsu he gained by becoming a Jinchuuriki. Sozo Banbatsu could also be as well.

He create the Bijuu with them, so it's imaginable what he could create with it. Creation of All Things doesn't work only when you're Juubi Jinchuuriki. That's because neither Madara nor Obito have / had it. And also, because, if once you have Juubi removed, if you lose the power. That wouldn't explain how Hagoromo was able to use the jutsu to create the Bijuu and give them Juubi chakra after extracting and splitting the Juubi. This points towards the fact that Hagoromo had that technique before sealing the Juubi in himself.

 

[~Sky~]

Pre-Jin Sage's biggest feat was sealing the Juubi. Madara made the Juubi and all the tailed beasts his pets in a matter of minutes.

Now we're putting Madara in his Juubi host form? Again, Madara said to reach the Prime Sage's Level, he needs his other Rinnegan.

Pre-Juubi Sage isn't anywhere close to Juubi Jin Sage.

 

[Touken]

Wow, I guess this is what it feels like getting your bottom handed to you by MR.

 

[Strict]

Rikudo Sennin, before becoming Juubi's Jinchuriki, can't beat Rikudo Madara.

Madara, before becoming Juubi's Jin, had the powers Rikudo Sennin possessed - Uchiha and Senju power, and the full power of the Rinnegan (he called it so by himself), such as Sage Mode. Things like Banbutsu Sozo, which originates from Uchiha and Senju powers can also be used by Madara. He has all the knowledge and powers. Even if a watered down version, when becoming Juubi's Jinchuriki, he reached a level Rikudo Sennin could never possess.

Not only that the powers he possessed (like the Rinnegan) are boosted on at least Rikudo Sennin's level (as you can't believe that Rikudo Sennin's eye surpasses Madara's when he talked about the Rinnegan's full power and is now Juubi's Jin), he possesses the Onmyoton, which turns all Jutsu to nothing. Obito called it the power of the Rikudo Sennin. Madara also said that Obito became just like the Rikudo Sennin.

Rikudo Sennin had to seal the Juubi away to free the world from it. Madara is its perfect Jin (which is a lot of more powerful than Juubi itself) and is an original wielder of the Rinnegan.

Rikudo surely was god like figure, but going that far to say that he beats (or even stomps) Rikudo Madara is too much.

Do you think Madara couldn't create a moon with ease? Or destroy the world? When he casts an infinite Genjutsu upon the whole world?

 

[Touken]

Rikudo Sennin, before becoming Juubi's Jinchuriki, can't beat Rikudo Madara.

Madara, before becoming Juubi's Jin, had the powers Rikudo Sennin possessed - Uchiha and Senju power, and the full power of the Rinnegan (he called it so by himself), such as Sage Mode. Things like Banbutsu Sozo, which originates from Uchiha and Senju powers can also be used by Madara. He has all the knowledge and powers. Even if a watered down version, when becoming Juubi's Jinchuriki, he reached a level Rikudo Sennin could never possess.

Not only that the powers he possessed (like the Rinnegan) are boosted on at least Rikudo Sennin's level (as you can't believe that Rikudo Sennin's eye surpasses Madara's when he talked about the Rinnegan's full power and is now Juubi's Jin), he possesses the Onmyoton, which turns all Jutsu to nothing. Obito called it the power of the Rikudo Sennin. Madara also said that Obito became just like the Rikudo Sennin.

Rikudo Sennin had to seal the Juubi away to free the world from it. Madara is its perfect Jin (which is a lot of more powerful than Juubi itself) and is an original wielder of the Rinnegan.

Rikudo surely was god like figure, but going that far to say that he beats (or even stomps) Rikudo Madara is too much.

Do you think Madara couldn't create a moon with ease? Or destroy the world? When he casts an infinite Genjutsu upon the whole world?

You're forgetting that pre-Juubi host SO6P already had the essence of the Juubi, which is why when Obito/Madara became the Juubi's host, they took on the appearance of the SO6P. This is what made him so powerful before he was the Juubi's host. It's implied he had Onmyouten before he took on the Juubi, and it's why Madara could never reach SO6P's power before he became the Juubi's host; because he lacked what the Rikudo Sennin had; the essence of the Juubi (from the Shinju's fruit).

 

[KidGamer65]

lol, people actually think that Madara is as strong as Rikudo Sennin huh? Every single time a character gets a boost they get wanked so I'm not surprised anymore.

Jin Rikudo is clearly stronger than Jin Madara.

Pre Jin Rikudo is definitely weaker.

Again, Madara said to reach the Prime Sage's Level, he needs his other Rinnegan.

He definitely never said that, not in this manga.

 

[Seventh Sama]

lol, people actually think that Madara is as strong as Rikudo Sennin huh? Every single time a character gets a boost they get wanked so I'm not surprised anymore.

Jin Rikudo is clearly stronger than Jin Madara.

Pre Jin Rikudo is definitely weaker.



He definitely never said that, not in this manga.

Even some of them think madara is stronger than the sage >_> , anyways we still dont know what powers pre jin sage had, its speculation to say sm madara= pre jin sage....

 

[Bronze]

lol, people actually think that Madara is as strong as Rikudo Sennin huh? Every single time a character gets a boost they get wanked so I'm not surprised anymore.

Jin Rikudo is clearly stronger than Jin Madara.

Pre Jin Rikudo is definitely weaker.



He definitely never said that, not in this manga.

But Sage mode is needed to damage Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and now where in the Manga confirms Rikudou had SM. So from that, he cannot possibly damage Jin Madara. While on the other hand, Madara has SM, so he can damage him.

 

[KidGamer65]

But Sage mode is needed to damage Juubi's Jinchuuriki, and now where in the Manga confirms Rikudou had SM. So from that, he cannot possibly damage Jin Madara. While on the other hand, Madara has SM, so he can damage him.

Due to this reason (If he really didn't have Sage Mode or some kind of power over Senjutsu) then Madara would either be locked in combat with him for all eternity considering he can't beat Rikudo as the latter can overpower every one of his moves. For that reason alone, or he'd somehow win, which is unlikely since Rikudo is overall stronger than him bar the fact he can't damage Madara due to lacking Senjutsu.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Onmyoton could counter Onmyoton, but ignore me here since its baseless speculation.

Unless he manages to trap him in an extremely large Chibaku Tensei, that would give Rikudo the win since Madara isn't going to be able to break out, despite not being hurt, he'd be sealed away just like the Gedo Mazo was. Madara would take Pre Jin Rikudo, but not Jin Rikudo.

Though don't be surprised if it turns out that Rikudo had Sage Mode or some command over Senjutsu.

Even some of them think madara is stronger than the sage >_> , anyways we still dont know what powers pre jin sage had, its speculation to say sm madara= pre jin sage....

If Pre Jin Rikudo had the Rinnegan, then he's definitely far above SM Madara, but if he didn't....I dunno since its unknown what else he had.

Though I think he probably did have the Rinnegan, most likely from when Kaguya passed on the chakra from the fruit on to him.

 

[~Sky~]

It's really hard not to see the Sage knowing Senjutsu, honestly.