Uchiha Madara The Greatest Shinobi

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1. Hashirama is still the "ultimate" shinobi. << There hasn't been a shinobi like him for a while. Naruto is slowly getting there, but he lacks the experience.

2. The dude was proficient in all ninja skills. fuijutsu/summonings/senjutsu/ninjutsu/genjutsu/taijutsu/kenjutsu

3. Not only simply proficient in them.. but also, POWERFUL in them.


Yea you can argue that Naruto/Sasuke are stronger than him.. however, that does not mean they are the "ultimate" shinobi yet. For one, they lack experience of war. And someone like Naruto also lacks pure training. << Something people like Hashirama/Madara/Tobirama have alot of.

But yea I don't see Hashirama being surpassed as the "ultimate" shinobi until Naruto becomes an adult.
 

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Hashirama held back on madara in the past by noy using SM against him. It took him to ude the ninetails to nearly match his power. He could of been killed madara
But he could not able to kill Madara in open fight that is the fact.

OK you making that kind of assumption but why he not using the SM power to defeated Madara after their massive scale battle done.

And showing that Madara survive that mean he counter all Hashi SM jutsu or non SM

That's mean Hashi is low in Chakra and cant perform it and choose a coward way to defeated Madara that is stabbing him from back
 

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But he could not able to kill Madara in open fight that is the fact.

OK you making that kind of assumption but why he not using the SM power to defeated Madara after their massive scale battle done.

And showing that Madara survive that mean he counter all Hashi SM jutsu or non SM

That's mean Hashi is low in Chakra and cant perform it and choose a coward way to defeated Madara that is stabbing him from back
Im talking about the battle before that he held back on madar and did not use SM.he even let him live when he was lying on the floor. In naruto attacking someone from the back is not being a coward its being deceptive. Its called being a ninja. He had the nine tailed fox with him. Is that not cowardly?
 

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Im talking about the battle before that he held back on madar and did not use SM.he even let him live when he was lying on the floor. In naruto attacking someone from the back is not being a coward its being deceptive. Its called being a ninja. He had the nine tailed fox with him. Is that not cowardly?
OK coward is become outlier here

But I will called it not in Honourable/creditable/great warrior way.

Like Akuma vs Goutatsu. Goutatsu know Shun Goku Satsu is deadly technique but he choose to stand and try to counter it front to front although in the end he is dead. But it Honour to him by Akuma for trying to fight him to last breath in warrior way.

Unlike Hashirama.

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OK coward is become outlier here

But I will called it not in Honourable/creditable/great warrior way.

Like Akuma vs Goutatsu. Goutatsu know Shun Goku Satsu is deadly technique but he choose to stand and try to counter it front to front although in the end he is dead. But it Honour to him by Akuma for trying to fight him to last breath in warrior way.

Unlike Hashirama.

Thanks.
Honorable? Thats not bringing a beast with you to fight. A fight in naruto goes like this if you get blind sided you die. Never in naruto has being honorable mattered zabuza used the hidden mist jutsu for a silent sneak kill so from the beginning this what naruto has been. That is the reason the shadow clone jutsu was created for diversions. Madara stole hashiramas ability and used it to get stronger is that honorable? No but it does not matter. Shinobi ninja. This is the type of stuff that happens
 

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Honorable? Thats not bringing a beast with you to fight. A fight in naruto goes like this if you get blind sided you die. Never in naruto has being honorable mattered zabuza used the hidden mist jutsu for a silent sneak kill so from the beginning this what naruto has been. That is the reason the shadow clone jutsu was created for diversions. Madara stole hashiramas ability and used it to get stronger is that honorable? No but it does not matter. Shinobi ninja. This is the type of stuff that happens
The beast is before but when they currently not in the massive battle just one on one in small scale battle. Hahirama fail to kill him without resort to back stabbing.

I don't care about Ninja way or rule or anything.

But the point is no one ever defeated Madara in respectable way. no one, not even Hasi and not even his creator Kishi are able to defeated him front to front. that is the fact.

Because he is to great in battle to be defeated in honourable way.

Ninja bull****, what I saw is like some samurai esque fighting more or less

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Madara is the Solo God, but its undeniable that before Madara became the Juubi Jin he was equal/less to Hashirama
Ehm EMS Madara could kill him with Izanagi.
Edo Madara can defeat him, this Madara has the strongest Doujutsu + The strongest Jutsu from Hashirama (Mokuton)

Edo Madara > Hashirama

And every alive Madara with Rinnengan is also stronger cuz of Limbo.

Hashirama can't see it and can't damage it...
 

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Ehm EMS Madara could kill him with Izanagi.
Edo Madara can defeat him, this Madara has the strongest Doujutsu + The strongest Jutsu from Hashirama (Mokuton)

Edo Madara > Hashirama

And every alive Madara with Rinnengan is also stronger cuz of Limbo.


Hashirama can't see it and can't damage it...
And those shinobi's is only hope is to using back stabbing to defeated him.

They afraid to going in front of Madara to kill him because of his greatness will kill them.

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Fair enough, but didn't Madara lose before too against Hashirama? When he fought without Kyuubi?

What I think is Madz =< Hashi, while Edo Madz > Hashi.

Regardless of all these, Madz had the highest solo feat ever to make him the solo god.
 

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Fair enough, but didn't Madara lose before too against Hashirama? When he fought without Kyuubi?

What I think is Madz =< Hashi, while Edo Madz > Hashi.

Regardless of all these, Madz had the highest solo feat ever to make him the solo god.
That fight is still not clear as what actually happen between not just madz and hashi but also senju and uchiha.

To few to take as assumption here although we all seeing senju and hashi win

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1. Hashirama is still the "ultimate" shinobi. << There hasn't been a shinobi like him for a while. Naruto is slowly getting there, but he lacks the experience.

2. The dude was proficient in all ninja skills. fuijutsu/summonings/senjutsu/ninjutsu/genjutsu/taijutsu/kenjutsu

3. Not only simply proficient in them.. but also, POWERFUL in them.


Yea you can argue that Naruto/Sasuke are stronger than him.. however, that does not mean they are the "ultimate" shinobi yet. For one, they lack experience of war. And someone like Naruto also lacks pure training. << Something people like Hashirama/Madara/Tobirama have alot of.

But yea I don't see Hashirama being surpassed as the "ultimate" shinobi until Naruto becomes an adult.
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OT: The best shinobi are tools, so I guess Madara is up there on the shinobi tree.
 
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