Uchiha Clan's sharingans

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Alright this is a random thread, as I came up with a memory last night, so bear with me..

I remember hearing/reading from the first chapters of Naruto, that the Sharingans withing Uchiha would be limited, thus not everyone would be born with the affinity to gain a sharingan.
This creates a bottle neck effect, of all uchihas being OP and amazing.. and few more conditions.. bear with me.

So, you need to be born with the affinity of sharingan, to gain it. you must protect your best friend to awaken it (as seen in Sasukes and Obitos case) itachi is a mystery still so it might not be as simple as that..

It is stated, that not everyone has the power to gain MS, so it creates another bottle neck effect. As only limited ammount of people have sharingans to begin with. This means it's very rare even among the sharingan users to gain MS, thus everyone with MS are highly respected and well remembered.

To gain MS, in my opinion, is much more complicated than just killing your best friend. Sasuke got his MS after he basicly killed his brother, and hearing the story of Itachis pain. Kakashi is still a complete mystery (?when Obito died?). Itachi, I think gained MS after killing his own parents [or when he helped Shishui with his plan of dissapearing (death)], meaning, all you need, is a huge distress, someone very close to you dying. and that creates a strain, that activates MS.
The strain created from that pain, makes your MS eye strain, and making your eyes "incomplete" and on top of that you know straining your eyes to much makes you lose your sight.

To gain EMS, you must have a sibling, with both the affinity of sharingan, and MS to be able to gain EMS, and those couples are rare! we only know of two, in the entire clan history! Sasuke and Itachi, and Izuna? and Madara.

Alright, thats what I think of the sharingans.. if anyone has something to add, or if i did something wrong, do correct me.
 
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+rep for this.
In order to awaken sharingan you have to experience a great emotional stress during battle.
 

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I like it. Would also put in perspective why everyone in the clan isn't just running around swapping eyes.

However, I believe Itachi flashed his MS, before his parents death, when he was being questioned by his clansmen.

Now what's your theory on awakening the Rinnegan? Haha.
 

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I like it. Would also put in perspective why everyone in the clan isn't just running around swapping eyes.

However, I believe Itachi flashed his MS, before his parents death, when he was being questioned by his clansmen.

Now what's your theory on awakening the Rinnegan? Haha.


yeah.. I wish I had a Theory about the rinnegan.. to me there just simply isnt enought data for me to figure that one out.. to me its a complete mystery.. but I suppose it has something to do with the senju DNA..
 

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yeah itachi showed sasuke his ms waaay before killing his parents im pretty sure he gained it after killin shisui after he gave him his ms ka for itachi to keep safe
 

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But I believe Kakashi unlocked his MS when Obito unlocked his his eyes are still linked like Kakashi already said, and Obito Claimed his Kamui power was borrowed.
 

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But I believe Kakashi unlocked his MS when Obito unlocked his his eyes are still linked like Kakashi already said, and Obito Claimed his Kamui power was borrowed.

true indeed, he could achieved it then, and only find out how to use it during time skip...
 

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I like it. Would also put in perspective why everyone in the clan isn't just running around swapping eyes.

However, I believe Itachi flashed his MS, before his parents death, when he was being questioned by his clansmen.

Now what's your theory on awakening the Rinnegan? Haha.

Here's my theory on how the Rinnegan is awakened:

As an Uchiha

Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan+Senju DNA= Rinnegan

As a Senju/Uzumaki

Senju DNA+EMS transplant= Rinnegan

That's the way I see it anyways.

This would also explain why Nagato's eyes never reverted back to normal after obtaining the Rinnegan. Nagato most likely received Madara's EMS after he finally died, and we all know that transplanted eyes don't revert back to normal (I.E Kakashi's Sharingan).
 
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+ Rep loved how you explained the MS theory (emotional distress = awakening of MS), also your theory on the EMS. I know you stated that you have no theory for awakening a Rinnegan, but does anyone have an idea?
 

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Here's my theory on how the Rinnegan is awakened:

As an Uchiha

Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan+Senju DNA= Rinnegan

As a Senju/Uzumaki

Senju DNA+EMS transplant= Rinnegan

That's the way I see it anyways.

This would also explain why Nagato's eyes never reverted back to normal after obtaining the Rinnegan. Nagato most likely received Madara's EMS after he finally died, and we all know that transplanted eyes don't revert back to normal (I.E Kakashi's Sharingan).

I like your theory on the Rinnegan (Senju/Uzumaki), but where would a Senju get EMS to transplant to awaken the Rinnegan? Can you elaborate on how this would work?
 

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But I believe Kakashi unlocked his MS when Obito unlocked his his eyes are still linked like Kakashi already said, and Obito Claimed his Kamui power was borrowed.

This could explain Kakashi's MS, their eyes are still linked-Agreed. So Awaken MS = Emotional distress, right? Then can one not also theorize that Kakashi's MS could have been awakened when Rin died, then causing Obito's MS?

Just another way of looking at it, let me know what you guys think.
 

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This could explain Kakashi's MS, their eyes are still linked-Agreed. So Awaken MS = Emotional distress, right? Then can one not also theorize that Kakashi's MS could have been awakened when Rin died, then causing Obito's MS?

Just another way of looking at it, let me know what you guys think.

actually that does make sense! alot aswell. I like that one!
 

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yeah i hope kishi explains next week how obito awakened ms

me to! because that could also explain how kakshi awakened it.. because kakshi is not supposed to be able to change between MS and sharingan, just like he cant turn off the sharingan in my opinion.. as the eye is not his.. but yet he somehow made it his...
 

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After few days of reading other peopels theories and posts, I think i came up with the idea of how the rinnegan works.. in Madaras case anyway...
As we'v seen before, the So6P divided his powers in two, uchiha gained his strong chakras and eyes. senju gained his strong life force and body. So assuming to this senju DNA has absolutely nothing to do with awakening the rinnegan. so the senju gained the yang chakra, and the uchiha the yin. and while the generations went on, the blood thinned, and thus the rinnegan like eyes turned into sharingan.
To be able to upgrade all the way, you'd need a rare potential in your DNA. and the reason why it's a rare potential is, you need X ammount of certain genes, and not everyone carries even a fragment of that. But somehow Madaras parents carries those genes, mother half, and father half, and just happened to be so madara got them all. unlocking the possibility of gaining it.

with this I mean that two white persons have a possibility of gaining a black baby if somewhere along the family tree there are black people..

Now we all know madara had his EMS way before the fight on valley of the death, and just like the sharingan evolves with its tomoes, till the third tomoe.. and we know you need a stress to unlock MS.. So With this; What if you need that rare DNA pool, EMS to "evolve" a bit further, and on top of that you still need somekind of stress, to activate that DNA pool awakening the rinnegan..

thats my thoughts.. I hope no one else thought of it..
 

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This could explain Kakashi's MS, their eyes are still linked-Agreed. So Awaken MS = Emotional distress, right? Then can one not also theorize that Kakashi's MS could have been awakened when Rin died, then causing Obito's MS?

Just another way of looking at it, let me know what you guys think.

AMAZING THEORY RIGHT THERE! It is possible... but does that mean that Rin was alive until the Shippuden part of the series? Kakashi only unlocked the MS after naruto's training. That also doesn't quite make sense because the time-space jutsu that Tobi uses was used when he attacked Konoha WAYYYY before Naruto was even a teenager.... I'm pretty sure that the Time/space-warp jutsu takes the MS to unlock.... correct me if im wrong!
 
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