Uchiha and Senju.. not related by blood

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I keep hearing people repeat these statements over and over. That Senju and Uchiha are related by blood. But they are not.

The 2 sons have different bloodlines. Now most of you will try to say "this goes against genealogy and logic".. however you must understand this a fiction, that has its own set of laws.


The starter of the bloodlines:​

IS NOT RIKUDOU. Senju and Uchiha bloodlines start from the sons. Rikudou is part of neither the Senju or Uchiha bloodline, but is a combination of both, hence a totally separate bloodline.
The split up​

Rikudou's bloodline being split into 2, creating 2 new bloodlines. That have very specific traits. The Senju and Uchiha bloodline share 0 similar traits.

There is a reason why the uzumaki were said to be related to the Senju and not the Uchiha.. Cause Senju and Uchiha aren't related by blood. They are 2 different bloodlines and sharing a different ancestor.
 

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They share a most recent common ancestor and are closely related, but don't share the exact same lineages (of course). I smell what you're stepping in, bro lol
 

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They share a most recent common ancestor and are closely related, but don't share the exact same lineages (of course). I smell what you're stepping in, bro lol

-sigh-, flame war and troll posts are what i'm stepping into X_X.

Closely related how? The manga shows them as 2 different entities. Only people the Senju are related to are the uzumaki.
 

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Senju+Uchiha=SO6P, so they are closely related. On rest it's night in India,and I better go to sleep.
 

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-sigh-, flame war and troll posts are what i'm stepping into X_X.

Closely related how? The manga shows them as 2 different entities. Only people the Senju are related to are the uzumaki.


The Senju and Uchiha trace back to the same direct lineage. The Uzumaki are related to the Senju in some manner, probably due to the younger son having some offstage relations or something (idk).
 

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Senju+Uchiha=SO6P, so they are closely related. On rest it's night in India,and I better go to sleep.

Tho manga says they are different bloodlines. So are you claiming they are the same bloodlines?

Notice that i specifically stated "by blood" not by "relation".

The Senju and Uchiha trace back to the same direct lineage. The Uzumaki are related to the Senju in some manner, probably due to the younger son having some offstage relations or something (idk).
But they don't.. lol. Its like saying Rikudou's bloodline is the same as his grandfather's.. Its not.. His bloodline is completely different, due to him being born with chakra.

What you are talking about is relationships: descendents of the sons = related to the son's father, because they are descendents of his sons.. Though they do not share the same blood, due to having modifications.
 
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I get it now : They kinda have the same Origin , but they don't share the same bloodline .. or something like this :)
 

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Senju and Uchiha both originated from S06P. how are they not related?

Uzumaki is probably a result of the senju and another clan. or some type of clan that existed back in the sage days.
but manga has already proven that uchiha and senju were once one. eyes belonging to the sage, body belonging to the sage. which is why uchia combined with senju equals out to sage powers, why else would that be?

uchia is one of the brothers bloodline, while senju belongs to the other brother bloodline, but both brothers are related by blood, they are the links that make senju and uchoha related by blood, even a little bit
 
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If the sage had 2 sons that are related by blood senju n uchiha are related. The ancestorof the senju clan and the ancestor of the uchiha were blood brothers came from the same mom n dad. In a way you could say madara n hashirama are distant relatives.
 

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If the sage had 2 sons that are related by blood senju n uchiha are related. The ancestorof the senju clan and the ancestor of the uchiha were blood brothers came from the same mom n dad. In a way you could say madara n hashirama are distant relatives.

I just now need evidence they shared the same blood. If they shared the same blood, they wouldn't have that much different qualities.

You are applying the same normal family concept to the sons, as you would apply to normal humans.. but you can't do that..
 

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The lineage has the same source so in a way they are related but i see your point
 

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*sigh* technicalities. yes, they are 2 different bloodlines. hence them not sharing kekkei genkai thus the senju not being able to access the sharingan. its a bloodline limit technique. they're related by blood, yes. but they're parts of two different blood lines those being the elder son and the younger son. so i guess what you said would be most accurate, they're related to each other but share two different origins. their origins (the younger and elder son) share the same origin however, which is what makes them related. i get what you're saying and what everyone else is arguing. hope this clears it up and doesnt seem like i'm rambling.
 
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I just now need evidence they shared the same blood. If they shared the same blood, they wouldn't have that much different qualities.

You are applying the same normal family concept to the sons, as you would apply to normal humans.. but you can't do that..

Yes you can cuz they're brother's. They just got different genetics. But they both came from there father. So your saying that the sages sons were not brothers.
 

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Yes you can cuz they're brother's. They just got different genetics. But they both came from there father. So your saying that the sages sons were not brothers.

I'm saying they are brothers with different blood.

Ever seen Batman beyond?
 

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They are watered down blood-lines of the original.
 

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I'm saying they are brothers with different blood.

Ever seen Batman beyond?

Yes I've seen batman beyond. Terry original father had his DNA changed too bruce Wayne's exact dna. Making bruce wayne terrys father. So terry has bruce wayne blood line
 

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Yes I've seen batman beyond. Terry original father had his DNA changed too bruce Wayne's exact dna. Making bruce wayne terrys father. So terry has bruce wayne blood line

terry and matt have bruce's dna. but idk how thats like this.
 
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