[Theory] Two Questions about the Senju

[ANiMUS]

Seeing how Senjutsu is not exclusive to the Senju is it possible that when the So6P decided when he was deciding which of the two sons would succeed him as Sage, what he really was deciding is who he would pass down his Sage teachings (his SM) to?

Seeing how not all Senju can use SM is it possible that Mokuton is an ability granted only to Senju with a body that handle SM? (nature energy)

 

[Peace Maker]

Well "Senju clan of the forest" is their full clans name... so maybe they can really use hermit mode all of them...

 

[Hipster Madara]

Maybe. IDK how these random animals know sage mode though.

Doubt it.

 

[SanjiNL]

Perhaps, perhaps not. Might be possible.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

SM is tricky because we've only seen a handful of people use it, namely Kabuto, Hashi, Naruto and Jiraya. If you count Oro that makes 5 major characters, but in the 3 cases of those that actually mastered it they had Senju or Uzumaki DNA. So it could be possible only those with that can handle true Sage mode.

 

[LitzSabr]

Nope and
Nope.

 

[ANiMUS]

Well "Senju clan of the forest" is their full clans name... so maybe they can really use hermit mode all of them...

Well, the only other Senjus on the show Tsunade and Tobirama can't used Mukoton. So, saying all the other Senju can use it especially when TOBIRAMA can't is too much of a stretch.

 

[Naijakid]

1. No idea

2. No idea sorry

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsuande is the perfect Senju for Sage mode, she has the perfect body and chakra control for it, I mean Naruto did it,she should be able to do it fairly easy.

 

[cgulley]

Enough with this SM shit. It's getting old already. I use to think it was something special now it seems everyone has a sage mode, mode. The novelty is over.

 

[LitzSabr]

Tsuande is the perfect Senju for Sage mode, she has the perfect body and chakra control for it, I mean Naruto did it,she should be able to do it fairly easy.

She doesn't have the determination to get things done like Jiraiya and Naruto. She can't do that.

 

[Draxus]

Senju and Senjutsu don't have the same root word in Japanese.

Sage techniques were clearly given to summons not the Younger Son, but it's likely he learned Sage mode.

Mukoton, I believe, is a power given to those who have earth and water release and train at the humid bone forest.

 

[ANiMUS]

Senju and Senjutsu don't have the same root word in Japanese.

Sage techniques were clearly given to summons not the Younger Son, but it's likely he learned Sage mode.

Mukoton, I believe, is a power given to those who have earth and water release and train at the humid bone forest.

So you are saying that Danzou and Captain Yamato both trained in the humid bone forest?

 

[tasuxeda]

There is no real evidence that the sage of the six paths knew senjutsu but if he did know it then for all we know both his children were taught senjutsu, we don't know enough about the sage and his children to determine if your right.

I very much doubt that mokuton is an ability granted only to Senju with a body that handle SM if so then out of all the Senju that have existed over at least one hundred years only Hashirama had the potential to learn senjutsu also by that logic Naruto who is from Senju lineage and can use sage mode must have mokuton.

 

[tysoncs]

he may have given the knowledge of mokuton sage mode to his younger son..while others may be derived from outer sources!!

 

[ANiMUS]

There is no real evidence that the sage of the six paths knew senjutsu but if he did know it then for all we know both his children were taught senjutsu, we don't know enough about the sage and his children to determine if your right.

I very much doubt that mokuton is an ability granted only to Senju with a body that handle SM if so then out of all the Senju that have existed over at least one hundred years only Hashirama had the potential to learn senjutsu also by that logic Naruto who is from Senju lineage and can use sage mode must have mokuton.

Naruto is an uzamaki who are distant relatives of the Senju. Saying Naruto could use mouton is like saying Sasuke could use lion fists. Though they are related their clans have different doujutsu.

 

[Draxus]

So you are saying that Danzou and Captain Yamato both trained in the humid bone forest?

No they got Hashi's cells so they didn't have to

 

[ANiMUS]

No they got Hashi's cells so they didn't have to

My point was that doujutsu come from a bloodline you can't gain it through training. The fact that those who gained hashi's cells could use mokuton is proof that mukoton is a doujutsu.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

千手 Senju
仙術チ Senjutsu
Different (Whatever kind of japanese this is)

 

[Draxus]

My point was that doujutsu come from a bloodline you can't gain it through training. The fact that those who gained hashi's cells could use mokuton is proof that mukoton is a doujutsu.

Doujutsu are eye techniques. I think you mean KKG, and it's already been proven KKG can be taught as well, as in the case of Oonoki.

I doubt Hashi was born with Mukoton, but I could be wrong. My reasoning comes from the fact that no other Senju is known to have it and he didn't use it as a child. I think after his sage training, his cells naturally draw in nature energy and instead of turning you into a frog or snake, it turns you into a tree. Just a little theory of mine, no really good evidence for it yet.

If you check this page he didn't have mukoton in the first panel but had it in the 2nd.

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