[Discussion] Two Interesting Rasengan Styles: Foreshadowing or Arts?

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There are two interesting Rasengan styles that Naruto used prior to having Gududama. Here are these Rasenagna utilizations:

1. Note named in the manga, but just like Gududama arrangement

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As you can see, there are six Rasengan around Naruto just as the Gududama usually floats around him. Though we can see one chakra arm and his right hand creating the Rasengan at the extremities in the first panel, it appears that the rasengan are floating in the second panel just like the Gududamas. Later, he hold the middle Rasengans with Chakra arms to hit the enemies.

PS: Notice also how Naruto's usage of Chakra arms is very similar to the Pain who can summon body parts. Now, addd the facts that each arm can perform a jutsus on its own to see that actually, these chakra arms are much like the path of Pain much in the way Nagato used them. Imagine one arm making a lava release while the other making a magnet realse, or some steam stuff.

2. Planetary Ransengan

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Yeah, the planetary Rasengan is the most interesting one. As you can see, only one Rasengan is being directly in contact with Naruto. As the name suggest, the little Rasengan are using a gravitational technique. Basically, the big Rasengan create a gravitational field causing the smaller Rasengan to remain in orbit around it. It is true that Kishi did not explain these, but maybe there is no need for explanation. This is gravity manipulation at smaller scale.


Conclusion and ...

As I stated earlier, these are some cool Rasengans. They are not mere Rasengans flying, but some Rasengan whose behavior uses very complex principles. while the first one could be said to be controlled by Naruto's mind in order to float around him (Gududama), the second one suggest a gravitational principle.

Now, it appears that Naruto is already using Gududama pretty much in the same style as the first Rasengan. Can we think of some gravitational techniques coming ahead? Was Kishi foreshadowing stuffs, or was he whimsically being artistic.

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I think he was just being creative with Rasengan variants. And I think the reason the Rasengans appeared to stay in the air like that in the first one is because he made them all and shot them out with chakra arms so fast.
 

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I liked the connection that you made but for once I would like Kishi to use naruto's new abilities in a moe creative way, it's not all about rasengan damn it!
 

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I think he was just being creative with Rasengan variants. And I think the reason the Rasengans appeared to stay in the air like that in the first one is because he made them all and shot them out with chakra arms so fast.

I assumed they were connected via chakra link, similar to Itachi's Yasaka Magatamas.
 

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I think he was just being creative with Rasengan variants. And I think the reason the Rasengans appeared to stay in the air like that in the first one is because he made them all and shot them out with chakra arms so fast.

I sincerely think you are not reading the manga here. You can see Naruto running with the Rasenagns floating before he reached the enemy. This is also confirmed in the animation in which we see him running with the floating Rasengan. This is pretty solid manga facts, and your analysis is pretty much a lazy one, or one from someone who does not want to see such feat from Naruto.

I assumed they were connected via chakra link, similar to Itachi's Yasaka Magatamas.

With Itachi's magatama, we can see visible links between the mahatmas. In Naruto's case, there is no such links. The facts that the Rasengans follow him where he goes tells me he using the same principle as the Gududama to control them. Remember that the Gududama is controlled by the user.

I liked the connection that you made but for once I would like Kishi to use naruto's new abilities in a moe creative way, it's not all about rasengan damn it!

Well, I am not finding the Rasengan themselves interesting. Rather, I am pointing out the principle behind those Rasengan and the possibility that he can use those principle on a larger scale. For example, if using the planetary Rasengan, the big Rasengan can become a gravity center, can he create a gravity using a Gududama?
 
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We'll never see those inconsistent rasengans again so it doesn't matter.
 

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I sincerely think you are not reading the manga here. You can see Naruto running with the Rasenagns floating before he reached the enemy. This is also confirmed in the animation in which we see him running with the floating Rasengan. This is pretty solid manga facts, and your analysis is pretty much a lazy one, or one from someone who does not want to see such feat from Naruto.

Lmao shots fired.

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I sincerely think you are not reading the manga here. You can see Naruto running with the Rasenagns floating before he reached the enemy. This is also confirmed in the animation in which we see him running with the floating Rasengan. This is pretty solid manga facts, and your analysis is pretty much a lazy one, or one from someone who does not want to see such feat from Naruto.



With Itachi's magatama, we can see visible links between the mahatmas. In Naruto's case, there is no such links. The facts that the Rasengans follow him where he goes tells me he using the same principle as the Gududama to control them. Remember that the Gududama is controlled by the user.

It's you who isn't looking properly.

He's clearly got chakra arms pushing them outward to the enemy after formation and if he was using your fanfic gravitational technique, he wouldn't need to go to the trouble of creating said arms. Also, the anime showed Deva Path flying and Naruto throwing a Rasengan so it's not a reliable source.

Maybe if you didn't have Naruto so far inside you, you'd be able to see that.
 
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With Itachi's magatama, we can see visible links between the mahatmas. In Naruto's case, there is no such links. The facts that the Rasengans follow him where he goes tells me he using the same principle as the Gududama to control them. Remember that the Gududama is controlled by the user.

Are you high? You can't see the very visible chakra link between each rasengan? :|
 

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Naruto fanboys are indeed the most delusional. If this was "confirmed" by enough flappers then there would soon enough be a thread on how this supposedly counters sasuke CT.
 

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i think it was foreshadowing
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It's you who isn't looking properly.

He's clearly got chakra arms pushing them outward to the enemy after formation and if he was using your fanfic gravitational technique, he wouldn't need to go to the trouble of creating said arms. Also, the anime showed Deva Path flying and Naruto throwing a Rasengan so it's not a reliable source.

Maybe if you didn't have Naruto so far inside you, you'd be able to see that.

I am not talking about hitting the enemy with the rasengan. I am rather talking about the formation of the Rasengan, and running with them around him. It is pretty obvious when he uses chakra arms to hit the enemy.

Are you high? You can't see the very visible chakra link between each rasengan? :|

Who is high, you or me? As I said earlier, you have vision problem. There is the first, second, third and fourth panels.

(1) First panel: He is forming the Rasengan using one chakra arm and his right arm. In this panel, we can see chakra linking the Rasengan

(2) Second panel: Naruto is running and there is no chakra arm, and no chakra links between the rasengan.

(3) In the first panel, Naruto is being surrounded by enemy forces

(4) Fourth panel: Naruto use chakra arms to strike the enemy with the Rasengan.


This is clear from the page, and it is exactly this way in the animation. Panel two is exactly the same as when he is carrying the gududama.

i think it was foreshadowing
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Thanks man. I tried to have one of this pages. There is one where the images are shown clearly. Some people actually think Naruto lost his powers from one stage to another. However, the reality is that Naruto's power has been evolving. The more control he has on the power, the more complete it becomes. Back then, Kishi was showing stages that leads to mastery of Gududama. basically, it appears that Rasengan is actually a raw chakra version of Gududama (uses elemental composition and manipulation).
 
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The Rasengan is likely a technique revived by the Fourth Hokage originally stemming from the first among the Uzumaki sages who learned to harness nature chakra in a time before ninjutsu.

Recall that the Rasengan is highly atypical in that it does not require chakra nature nor does it require hand signs/seals. It is 'raw' chakra condensed and controlled.

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The Rasengan is the cycling of Taiji and Wuji.

Also - notice that Naruto has only learned summoning jutsu (a variation on sealing jutsu), the 'shadow clone' Jutsu along with the transformation jutsu (the Kyuubi makes illusions real in Japanese lore), and the Rasengan.

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Magnest release is sort of like gravity. Although I was imagining that he could use planetary rasengan in conjunction with mulitple bijuu chakra rasengans; something like magnet, lava, and wind.
 
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