two different space time ninjutsu

[Vishvak Tatineni]

Tobirama and minato - similar but not same

First i ask all of u to please read it all the way and then you can post ur opinions

Ohk . So as the title says i believe that the ftg minato uses and the ftg tobirama uses are two different and not the same like some of us think

We all know that minato uses ftg seals [ special kunai] and can also mark places he touches with the seal right ? . So his teleportation is limited to the seals or tags . We all know this

Now take a look at this

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Here hashi qoutes ''''' tobirama prepare to fly outside ''''

So what do u think outside refers to ? We can safely interpret it to being the place where war is underway . If not some other place.

Also the word prepare seems to mean that it would take tobirama a while to get ready

This would explain why tobirama was not able to escape from tough encounters against kinkaku and gikaku coz he needed a little time but since he was actively fighting them he was not able to use his ftg .

Then again he did use his ftg while fighting izuna .So it is still not completely described .

My point is if minato and tobirama use the same ftg then how will tobirama teleport the lot and to where ? a place tobirama marked like 50 years ago? no that's ridiculous

Hence we can say that unlike minato's ftg tobirama's ftg is not bound by seals . Hence the two ftg's mentioned are different

But we can still not answer the question as to whose technique is better.

CONCLUSION: Unlike minato's ftg tobirama's ftg is not bound by tags but minato's ftg is very fast but doesnot require prep time and is instantanious but we have not seen tobirama perform his ftg due to time skip . Hence we cannot say that tobirama's ftg is better

Thank You for reading.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

I don't think so. Prepare to do something can be a matter of second. This can be mental or physical, and there is no time limit. Tobirama did not flee before Kin and Gin certainly for some reasons. We know he almost died, but we don't know how the Gin-Kin bros left the battlefield.

 

[Vishvak Tatineni]

I don't think so. Prepare to do something can be a matter of second. This can be mental or physical, and there is no time limit. Tobirama did not flee before Kin and Gin certainly for some reasons. We know he almost died, but we don't know how the Gin-Kin bros left the battlefield.

The way i see it is if tobirama's ftg is instantanious then hashi would have said '' fly us outside''' but the use of the word ''''''''''prepare''''''''
is not usually required so i feel that tobirama's ftg needs some preparation time

what we know is that tobirama was attacked at a kaga summit where kin and gin showed up and tobirama was so badly wounded that he was about to die . So my explanation is that after being brutally hurt tobirama must have been lying down and something and the kin and gin brothers were cherishing and talking about the way they fought tobirama . During this amount of time whether it may be 10 sec or 1 min 0r 5min tobirama was able to prepare to use his ftg.

the reason i feel that this might be the case because there is no other way we can explain why tobirama didn't use his ftg when attacked by the kin - gin bros and when he was alone fighting 20 elite cloud shinobi

So if i'm wrong and tobirama's ftg is instantanious like minato then how come he was injured so bad . We haveseen that unlike minato tobirama's ftg is not bound by tags and sealas !!!!!!!!

 

[Vexion]

Another great prediction

 

[GucciSinclair]

we've seen Tobirama using Hiraishin in the manga and it didn't have any preparation time, done the exactly same way as Minato's, minus the shown tag.

there are other explanation why he couldn't use Hiraishin to escape while fighting Kinkaku force, one reason would be he can't run away during a decoy battle or it defeats the purpose, the other one would be Kinkaku force can put up a barrier to stop Hiraishin from working, just like how it stopped Dan's ghost transformation, and like how Minato's Hiraishin won't let him teleport himself back if he gets sucked into Kamui dimension.

 

[Vishvak Tatineni]

we've seen Tobirama using Hiraishin in the manga and it didn't have any preparation time, done the exactly same way as Minato's, minus the shown tag.

there are other explanation why he couldn't use Hiraishin to escape while fighting Kinkaku force, one reason would be he can't run away during a decoy battle or it defeats the purpose, the other one would be Kinkaku force can put up a barrier to stop Hiraishin from working, just like how it stopped Dan's ghost transformation, and like how Minato's Hiraishin won't let him teleport himself back if he gets sucked into Kamui dimension.

at first look even i thought that tobirama used ftg in manga but then people put up valid points like how come people landed at diff places if hiraishin wsa used[remember oro and taka were on top of the mountain while the kages landed on their respective statues]

hence i thought that hiraishin was not used . and like i said in the previous post the word ''''prepare'''''was a little suspicious for me

i did check two diff translations both had this word in them

therefore i came to the conclusion that tobirama's ftg was indeed devoid of tags but needs maybe a set of handseals or preptime

though dan uses ghost transformation the ghost has to physically pass through the barrier but for tobirama's teleportation it's more like place to place hence from within the barrier he might be able to teleport

i know it's all speculation about can people teleport from within a barrier [ex could minato come back from kamui dimension]

but i could actuallly explain how a person of tobirama's caliber was injured so sevierly by the kin-gin brothers

 

[GucciSinclair]

at first look even i thought that tobirama used ftg in manga but then people put up valid points like how come people landed at diff places if hiraishin wsa used[remember oro and taka were on top of the mountain while the kages landed on their respective statues]

hence i thought that hiraishin was not used . and like i said in the previous post the word ''''prepare'''''was a little suspicious for me

i did check two diff translations both had this word in them

therefore i came to the conclusion that tobirama's ftg was indeed devoid of tags but needs maybe a set of handseals or preptime

though dan uses ghost transformation the ghost has to physically pass through the barrier but for tobirama's teleportation it's more like place to place hence from within the barrier he might be able to teleport

i know it's all speculation about can people teleport from within a barrier [ex could minato come back from kamui dimension]

but i could actuallly explain how a person of tobirama's caliber was injured so sevierly by the kin-gin brothers

but the panel with Tobirama grabbing Hashirama's shoulder while Minato grabbing Hiruzen's indicates it was Hiraishin, Minato's tag was in his rocky face and Tobirama could have his tag in his face as well or didn't need it.

Hashirama's statement only means "get ready" which is a general statement and can't assume it's directed towards his Hiraishin.

a barrier could have the ability to cut off the connection between different Hiraishin tags, if that's the case then Tobirama's Hiraishin could be stopped as well. Obito believes Minato can't teleport back from Kamui dimension, that's why he said the battle is over once he catches Minato, as Minato's student and the owner of the highest level S/T technique, I believe he knows the limitation of Hiraishin. it makes sense, since Hiraishin can only jump within the same dimension, while Kamui can go through different ones.

 

[Dissonant Values]

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Tobirama's FTG was used in conjunction with Kenjutsu though. So saying that it would "take time" to prepare would strip the technique of it's effectiveness. I would assume the whole point of the teleportation would be to catch the enemy off guard.