Tsunade's overlooked hype

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Tsunade has reaction time to counter his speed. She has argubly the best "blitz" or short length blitz in the manga. SHe can literally grab him and tank his shit.. and then pawn him after ..... see the difference? The problem is she won't even let him turn into the gates. lmao.

Dude, Prowess of a person is known throughout the world. If there is someone Tsunade's level he would know. And of course your now making a excuse that he hasn't seen them.. when the manga clearly states he had been traveling the world. And what has the manga done to prove that hype wrong? She also said she can't be killed in battle... and guess what.. shes still alive after being cut in half.


Please don't use that idiotic "Evidence of absence" crap.. when i can say the same for you. Infact atleast I have manga text that is saying none can match her combat prowess. And you have literally nothing to prove it wrong. .

Ahg... a debate so early in the morning... If you must.

Mere reaction time is not enough to counter the speed. It's like Sasuke with his sharingan in VOTE. Naruto completely outclassed him in speed with his regular sharingan. His reaction time was amazing at the time, but his body could not keep up with his capabilities. Meaning, he could physically have blocked it, that's how good his reaction time was, yet his body physically wasn't able to move that fast to block it. That's why Kishi upgraded his sharingan, which slowed Naruto's movements down even further, allowing him ample time to move his body there. His reaction time never changed, just the amount of time he had to react did. Tsunade is not physically fast enough to block Guy, while she might have the reaction time to notice the attack.

She hasn't been matched in power? I'm pretty sure Deva Path made short work of her. The fact that she couldn't even stand up to him as the Hokage means a lot in this series. Obviously you'll pull the, she was protecting her villagers, but before she did that. Deva path confronted her on the roof. If she's so fast, she could have hit him? Nope... She would have got solo'd there and then. Unless you think she can take on deva path*_*

How is it logical that Jiraiya saw A fight just because he walked around everywhere. Just because he said no one can match her battle prowess doesn't actually mean no one. By that logic, She's > Hiruzen, Hashirama, Minato, Madara, Kabuto, Naruto, Sasuke, Orochimaru, Jiraiya himself, Kakashi, Obito, Itachi, etc... If you take everything at face value you get that ^. If you think she can beat all of those people, we have nothing more to discuss honestly :|

 

[Mitarashi]

He was likely trying to flatter her at the time, lolol.

 

[johnnyindigo]

What manga chapter was this?

 

[grizzlyshree]

it seems that after Hiruzens death, the only person who would fill that gap is tsunade.

why? was it because she was so powerfull? nah, its because

1.she was the descendant of 1st
2.after oro( who at that time was a villain),jiraiya(he was disinterested), she was the only one remaining. and she was 3rds student
its no that she was the most powerfull, its because the other two were disinterested

 

[Tazzilla88]

Ahg... a debate so early in the morning... If you must.

Mere reaction time is not enough to counter the speed. It's like Sasuke with his sharingan in VOTE. Naruto completely outclassed him in speed with his regular sharingan. His reaction time was amazing at the time, but his body could not keep up with his capabilities. Meaning, he could physically have blocked it, that's how good his reaction time was, yet his body physically wasn't able to move that fast to block it. That's why Kishi upgraded his sharingan, which slowed Naruto's movements down even further, allowing him ample time to move his body there. His reaction time never changed, just the amount of time he had to react did. Tsunade is not physically fast enough to block Guy, while she might have the reaction time to notice the attack.

She hasn't been matched in power? I'm pretty sure Deva Path made short work of her. The fact that she couldn't even stand up to him as the Hokage means a lot in this series. Obviously you'll pull the, she was protecting her villagers, but before she did that. Deva path confronted her on the roof. If she's so fast, she could have hit him? Nope... She would have got solo'd there and then. Unless you think she can take on deva path*_*

How is it logical that Jiraiya saw A fight just because he walked around everywhere. Just because he said no one can match her battle prowess doesn't actually mean no one. By that logic, She's > Hiruzen, Hashirama, Minato, Madara, Kabuto, Naruto, Sasuke, Orochimaru, Jiraiya himself, Kakashi, Obito, Itachi, etc... If you take everything at face value you get that ^. If you think she can beat all of those people, we have nothing more to discuss honestly :|

Didn't Jiraiya's prized pupil fight Ay. You think an encounter with the world renown AB tag team wouldn't be mentioned. Or an encounter with a man that Minato could barely avoid.

Reaction time is reacting not noticing. Even more while Gai packs a punch but your assuming average durability for Tsunade but that isn't the case
While Tsunade is not the most durable shinobi, I would say that her durability is top ten. I think quality of feats is more relevant than having a multitude of feats. Thus, I will use only few feats to emphasize my point. I will go from least impressive feats to most impressive feats. Therefore, the place to begin is with her fight with Kabuto.
In her battle with Kabuto he cut her intercostal muscles, her bicep muscles, and her Rectus Femoris.

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Despite this, she was still able to breath, run, and punch; things that should not have been possible given her injuries.
The next feat involves her enduring Shinra Tensei. She released her yin seal to heal the villagers, but obviously not herself as she is bleeding.

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She did not have Katsuyu to protect her and she was running closer to the epicenter of Shinra Tensei when Diva Path used it.

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Such a feat is notable because Shinra Tensei did this to the village.

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A very powerful feat requires a bit more consideration. Tsunade endured the Heavenly Transfer Technique with only a few cuts.

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This is despite Mabui’s warning that she’d be ripped apart.

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To consider why such a technique would do that and fully appreciate at this feat we must take into consideration what the implications of light speed travel.

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If any object is traveling toward point x at the speed of light. That would mean that any stationary thing between that object and point x is traveling toward the object at the speed of light as well, relative to the object. Things that are traveling toward the object and is between the object and point x would be traveling faster than the speed of light relative to the object. And things going away from the object between the object and point x would be moving slower than the speed of light. This would mean that if Tsunade is the object and Madara is point X, then the air in the atmosphere was affecting her body at or near light speed. Thus, the injuries she received are either from the air cutting against body at those speeds or other things such as insects cutting against her body. At that level of acceleration, impacting with an insect would be more deadly, than being shot by a bullet. Likewise, note how winds going 70 miles an hour rip homes apart, or to use an example how the wind from Kiba’s Fang over Fang is supposed to tear the enemy apart.

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And how Temari’s wind jutsus cut.

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Therefore we can reason on the destructive power that Tsunade endured.
Finally, the last feat for Durability I will discuss is Tsunade enduring the Yasaka Magatama’s from Madara. Yasaka Magatama is Itachi’s most destructive technique.

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I know he said he long range but we haven’t at any point seen a technique of his more destructive than Yasaka Magatama. But this was not Itachi’s Yasaka Magatama but Madara’s. His Yasaka Magatamas broke through Gaara’s sand shield and nearly through the stone golem as well.

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So while Tsunade did heal from the resulting damage the point is that she wasn’t ripped apart by the technique.

Thus I propose, Tsunade will withstand Gai's blows. He's more likely to run out of the gates before she runs out of byakugou.

 

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Didn't Jiraiya's prized pupil fight Ay. You think an encounter with the world renown AB tag team wouldn't be mentioned. Or an encounter with a man that Minato could barely avoid.

Reaction time is reacting not noticing. Even more while Gai packs a punch but your assuming average durability for Tsunade but that isn't the case
While Tsunade is not the most durable shinobi, I would say that her durability is top ten. I think quality of feats is more relevant than having a multitude of feats. Thus, I will use only few feats to emphasize my point. I will go from least impressive feats to most impressive feats. Therefore, the place to begin is with her fight with Kabuto.
In her battle with Kabuto he cut her intercostal muscles, her bicep muscles, and her Rectus Femoris.

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Despite this, she was still able to breath, run, and punch; things that should not have been possible given her injuries.
The next feat involves her enduring Shinra Tensei. She released her yin seal to heal the villagers, but obviously not herself as she is bleeding.

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She did not have Katsuyu to protect her and she was running closer to the epicenter of Shinra Tensei when Diva Path used it.

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Such a feat is notable because Shinra Tensei did this to the village.

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A very powerful feat requires a bit more consideration. Tsunade endured the Heavenly Transfer Technique with only a few cuts.

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This is despite Mabui’s warning that she’d be ripped apart.

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To consider why such a technique would do that and fully appreciate at this feat we must take into consideration what the implications of light speed travel.

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If any object is traveling toward point x at the speed of light. That would mean that any stationary thing between that object and point x is traveling toward the object at the speed of light as well, relative to the object. Things that are traveling toward the object and is between the object and point x would be traveling faster than the speed of light relative to the object. And things going away from the object between the object and point x would be moving slower than the speed of light. This would mean that if Tsunade is the object and Madara is point X, then the air in the atmosphere was affecting her body at or near light speed. Thus, the injuries she received are either from the air cutting against body at those speeds or other things such as insects cutting against her body. At that level of acceleration, impacting with an insect would be more deadly, than being shot by a bullet. Likewise, note how winds going 70 miles an hour rip homes apart, or to use an example how the wind from Kiba’s Fang over Fang is supposed to tear the enemy apart.

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And how Temari’s wind jutsus cut.

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Therefore we can reason on the destructive power that Tsunade endured.
Finally, the last feat for Durability I will discuss is Tsunade enduring the Yasaka Magatama’s from Madara. Yasaka Magatama is Itachi’s most destructive technique.

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I know he said he long range but we haven’t at any point seen a technique of his more destructive than Yasaka Magatama. But this was not Itachi’s Yasaka Magatama but Madara’s. His Yasaka Magatamas broke through Gaara’s sand shield and nearly through the stone golem as well.

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So while Tsunade did heal from the resulting damage the point is that she wasn’t ripped apart by the technique.

Thus I propose, Tsunade will withstand Gai's blows. He's more likely to run out of the gates before she runs out of byakugou.

Why did you make this so big... :|

1. Yes Minato fought Ay, re-read previous posts if you're going to join in. I said, just because they got into a fight, doesn't mean Jiraiya knows everything about the guy. If anything it was a mere exchange of attacks. No hits were landed. Only dodged attacks.

2. Reaction time is how fast you react to something, re-read my previous post.

3. She was able to breathe after he did all of that to her? All he said that would do was stop her immense strength. Nothing about stopping her breathing. She can still run and punch, but it won't be as strong.

4. Surviving that is not much a feat, she was with a handful of Anbu agents. They all survived... Do they deserve to be top 10 in durability.

5. That teleportation would have been a big feat, but she used her byakugo. That's not base durability. Even so, that does not mean she's invincible as she received multiple cuts, she was simply repairing her body faster than she was getting cut. That's why she survived.

6. You don't need to go into a tirade on light speed travel. It's hardly necessary in this discussion. If you're going to say that, then it's hardly necessary to say she can beat A. A survived this with no cuts. He literally tanked this. He's much more durable than she is.

7. Just stop... She needed to heal with her byakugo, if she didn't have byakugo she would have been ripped apart. Byakugo heals instantly, so it's hardly proper to deduce her durability based on this "feat"

7th gates Gai > Tsunade Byakugo or not.

 

[elsepa]

Then Minato is #1 cause the Raikage came to think no one could ever defeat him? :l

 

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Then Minato is #1 cause the Raikage came to think no one could ever defeat him? :l

Exactly. Hype hardly counts as anything. If it did, there would be two gods of shinobi, and about 20 strongest ninja to ever live. :|

 

[Joshutsu]

I didn't know people thought Ay was good in taijutsu as Tsunade. He hasn't shown anything great. Also i think she can handle base Gai possibly some of his gates. People only ignore this feat because they claim Tsunade has not shown anything to make them believe that.

I am positive if she actually held a battle in close combat with an opponent who was good at it she would step up her game. Honestly who has she ever fought in close combat that was really able to keep up. Neither were good at close combat. Kabuto was not fighting taijutsu either so noone bring that up please.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol when people talk or defend tsunade, there is 1 hype that is always overlooked. Keyword is battle, and since Jiraiya has seen ninja like Guy/Kakashi/ and Orochimaru.....His hype of Tsunade is credible. There aren't any ninjas who can match her prowess in battle (Probably referring to hand to hand combat). << But yea. =]. For the ones who were saying Gai/Guy and Ay and etc were above her in Taijutsu ^_^.

J-man only praised her cuz he wanted the pussy. Madara beat her in combat and sakura is on the verge of beating her in medical skills. Manga>hype. Now take ur "hiruzen is god of shinobi" ass elsewhere.

 

[Joshutsu]

J-man only praised her cuz he wanted the pussy. Madara beat her in combat and sakura is on the verge of beating her in medical skills. Manga>hype. Now take ur "hiruzen is god of shinobi" ass elsewhere.

Madara did not engage her in taijutsu that is the combat Jiraya is talking about. He himself says it is his weakness. Everyone is selective with their hype acceptance, only praised because he wanted the P*ssy?

 

[Neonian]

Tsunade does have a lot of hype.

 

[Neonian]

She has a lot of hype.

 

[grizzlyshree]

she doesn deserve any of this. she is good at healing. case closed.

 

[RNITBmsage]

shes an amazing shinobi

 

[Icelerate]

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This is despite Mabui’s warning that she’d be ripped apart.

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To consider why such a technique would do that and fully appreciate at this feat we must take into consideration what the implications of light speed travel.

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If any object is traveling toward point x at the speed of light. That would mean that any stationary thing between that object and point x is traveling toward the object at the speed of light as well, relative to the object. Things that are traveling toward the object and is between the object and point x would be traveling faster than the speed of light relative to the object. And things going away from the object between the object and point x would be moving slower than the speed of light. This would mean that if Tsunade is the object and Madara is point X, then the air in the atmosphere was affecting her body at or near light speed. Thus, the injuries she received are either from the air cutting against body at those speeds or other things such as insects cutting against her body. At that level of acceleration, impacting with an insect would be more deadly, than being shot by a bullet. Likewise, note how winds going 70 miles an hour rip homes apart, or to use an example how the wind from Kiba’s Fang over Fang is supposed to tear the enemy apart.

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And how Temari’s wind jutsus cut.

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Therefore we can reason on the destructive power that Tsunade endured.
Finally, the last feat for Durability I will discuss is Tsunade enduring the Yasaka Magatama’s from Madara. Yasaka Magatama is Itachi’s most destructive technique.

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I know he said he long range but we haven’t at any point seen a technique of his more destructive than Yasaka Magatama. But this was not Itachi’s Yasaka Magatama but Madara’s. His Yasaka Magatamas broke through Gaara’s sand shield and nearly through the stone golem as well.

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So while Tsunade did heal from the resulting damage the point is that she wasn’t ripped apart by the technique.

Thus I propose, Tsunade will withstand Gai's blows. He's more likely to run out of the gates before she runs out of byakugou.

No, if something achieves light speed, it is travelling at the same speed relative to all frames of reference. If I am travelling at 90% speed of light northward and shine a ray of light north, relative to me, the light is travelling at the speed of light northward. Surprisingly, relative to a stationary observer, the light is still travelling at the speed of light. Speed of light remains constant in any frame of reference even if they are moving with the speed of light. Due to this, time dilation and length contraction occurs. This is Einstein's theory of special relativity.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Lol when people talk or defend tsunade, there is 1 hype that is always overlooked. Keyword is battle, and since Jiraiya has seen ninja like Guy/Kakashi/ and Orochimaru.....His hype of Tsunade is credible. There aren't any ninjas who can match her prowess in battle (Probably referring to hand to hand combat). << But yea. =]. For the ones who were saying Gai/Guy and Ay and etc were above her in Taijutsu ^_^.

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Suigetsu also said chidori blade cant be countered. Look how that turned out. Jiraiya is right though because madara didnt go toe to toe with her. He wrecked her and other kage

 

[BenjerminGaye]

by hype itachi is invincible and therefore she has no choice but to lose to him.
By hype kakashi's raikiri peirces everything and as such when he uses it she will get pierced and die.
By hype nagato is god so she is but fodder to him in terms of combat. (pain already solod her ass)
by hype hashi is god and as such she would receive the same treatment nagato already gave her.

Hype is proved by feats and without it it is close to worthless now take that scan u keep on reusing and go somewhere.